Anyone have 2-3 stone to lose but DOES NOT use injectables

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Anyone want a support thread to drop 2-3 stone but finding the ozempic/wegovy etc threads overwhelming on here. They aren't useful to me and there are so many threads on here about the damn stuff.

A previous thread I saw basically said diet and exercise without the injectables would fail for most. I don't want to touch the stuff for a variety of reasons but mainly the hideous side effects and pile on weight when you stop. Not to mention cost.

I'm looking to do it the "old fashioned" way... 1200-1500 calories on my fitness pal and exercise increasing. No particular time limit.

SW: 12 stone 2
I'm really short too so ideally I need to be 10 stone something max

I'm 40 and deffo in perimenopause

Thanks, @HappySquid. The Consultant told me that she'd phone me herself and that it would take between 1 and 2 weeks. The biopsy was taken on the 16th, so I should hear Monday or Tuesday, but who knows...The labs for my area are sometimes not that efficient and the biopsy was taken during the Trades Holiday Fortnight.

My late husband used to have to have bloods taken fairly regularly - he was on Warfarin. Very often we'd get a call to say that another sample was needed because "there hadn't been enough blood": it got to the stage that the nurses used to show us the vial to prove that they'd filled the vial to the line!

Still trying to stick to the diet using the NHS app. Doing my band exercises at home on the days that I'm not at my exercise class.

The class is pretty good - I was referred after my shoulder decompression and the instructor organises individual programmes for us.

I think I've lost some fat off my lower back. Friends tell me that i've lost weight, but my waistline seems to be the same, although my abdomen has definitely tightened up, if that makes any sense. I think that's because I've been using the SPARC machine three times a week.

The challenge is finding exercise moves that are safe for my knees: with patella alta, you're prone to dislocations, but apparently even some top-notch athletes have the problem.

I'd agree that finding yourself just into the obese range gives you a wake-up call. Trying to get myself into the "overweight" range at the moment.

My arms and wrists have always been ridiculously skinny no matter my size. My legs always stayed skinny until this last year or so. For the first time in my life, I appear to have thunder thighs!

Hi, Can I join? I started three weeks ago with a weight of 83kg, am down to 80.3kg. I have been using my fitness pal. I started with eating anything but staying in a calorie deficit, but just finished reading ‘Ultra processed people’ and am now trying to also eat ‘clean’. I have a bit of a habit of obsessing over food and eating well and going so extreme that I then can’t sustain it and bounce back to eating tonnes of crap. I am determined this time as I am about to hit 50 and really, really want to get a handle on this and get back into shape so I can be strong and fit (and slim again) rather than slide into bigger and bigger clothes. I am tall so can carry it but it’s getting me down that I keep needing bigger clothes and I don’t like the way they fit. All because I eat junk without thinking. I have a stressful job and when I am working and looking after the kids I get so busy and stressed I just kind of give up. when I am holiday - like now - I can think about myself a bit more and eat healthy and do exercise. I am currently doing a ‘fit and healthy’ phase but I worry that I will slip back when real life starts. And I really don’t want to. I have never commented on Mumsnet before and have never really spoken about this. But I thought I would give it a try. My kids are now in their teens and I used MN a lot when they were babies - just to read the advice. I am hoping their will be some magic in a shared community of similar minds.. I signed up for the premium of My fitness pal but the community bit isn’t working, Would love some shared motivation from others trying to do the same. I am lifting weights at the gym, and doing Pilates, I also walk the dog. So I am doing all the right things - I just worry that I will burn out and stop, loose motivation and put it all back on again (and stop going to the gym). When I was in my twenties I lost 1.5 stones with weight watchers and it was just incredible. So, I know I can do it, I kept it off too - most of my life. But in the last few years, peri-menopausal, life stresses, i have just not been looking after myself and eating so much crap it’s embarrassing. Drinking loads of wine, eating crap processed food - not prioritising myself at all,. And now it stops! Any motivation gratefully received,
Sorry for the long post!

Does anyone else lift weights to help weight loss? I keep seeing articles about weighted vests for dog walks and house work and was wondering if it’s worth it.
I find that it makes me hungrier but as long as I eat good food after and not give in to crap, I think it speeds up weight loss. Good for bones too.

Hi everyone, can I join? I haven't read the full thread but I have a lot of weight to lose and also don't feel injectables are for me.
My downfalls are:
stress /boredom eating
not stopping at one glass of wine
hungry teenagers in the house making it hard to switch off from food
general sense of needing a treat and feeling that "real" treats are out of reach: I am short of money, time, friends, and work is grim (and terrifying) in lots of ways at the moment but for various reasons it will be hard to find a way out for a while.

Anyway enough of the whining, I have decided to turn the situation upside down and look at it this way: my body and my health is one thing I can, control and one way I can get a handle on my future, and I am going to take it and feel positive about it.

I know it's controversial so I wont go into detail about it on here in case it is triggering but I am using Noom (my first try). I know it's not for everyone but I am feeling a bit lost and unloved so the cheesy stuff that makes me feel a little bit cared for is actually quite nice for me right now.

My ultimate goal: 10 stone / 64kg (I have a long way to go - will have to lose about a third of my current body weight) (I am not sure if this is realistic. It sounds like a lot to me but I grew up in the 80s and remember trying to be 8 stone and I was eating 800 calories a day so maybe I need to re adjust: I can think again if I get to a place I am happy with which is heavier)

Interim goal 1: no specific weight, but buy a nice dress I feel good in for Christmas

Interim goal 2 (for Spring 25) under 85kg which is the weight to hire an individual kayak (I phoned them up and lied and said I had a massive husband and would he be able to hire an individual kayak? They told me no way, we would have to hire a monster kayak and share it. I have a horrible feeling they know I was lying)

Does anyone else find a routine helpful? Sorry I have not read through the full thread.

I went for a walk this morning at 8am, just me and a few runners and dog walkers in the park. It was so nice! Really fresh and quiet.

Then had coffee and a Puritan shake with some frozen blueberries and almond milk about half eleven, that is all so far as it was quite filling.

Might try and keep up this early walking thing- well it is early for me anyway. Teens still in bed when I got back.

I would have tried swimming, but have my period, maybe when that is over will try again.

I think I'm going to just try with these small simple changes and things that are not too 'unattainable'

Reading a book called Health at Every Size which is quite good, has anyone read that?

have a good weekend x

*Purition

achipandachair I'm new too, and also have teens in the house, I know what you mean about the food!

Me too! I have teens and they eat and eat. So hard to step away from it but am recently thinking more that this is about me and what I want for me. That seems to help so far. I am also obsessed with gaining strong muscles and bones so I don't get sick. I once couldn't get out of the bath as my tiny wrists couldn't bare my weight and it was a real wake up call. I don't want to be thin (although I do!) I want to be strong and fit. Like really healthy. I know what I have to do it's the consistency that gets me. At some point I just jack it all in and eat rubbish...

@Orangesandlemons77 yes to a routine but I also know I get bored so I try to do new routines. I also am religious about weigh day. I do it once a week in Boots. 1GBP and you get a print out ticket. For some reason this motivates me.

My kids are always wanting snacks too but I've really been strong and whilst I love a good packet of crisps I've just not had it. I look at the crisps and think that's a double chin, that's another belly, that's another fat thigh because to be honest the greasiness does make you feel that way.

I wasn't feeling so positive about the weight loss especially due to numbers going up but now they're heading down ever so slightly and this week I probably had a lot of carbs so that was good.

My thoughts are to stick with the 20 minutes of exercise and going for a walk.

I keep it really simple. Yes I am not having any takeaways, no fried food, no sugar etc but I'm enjoying this journey now and I will have an event this week which means it is very easy to overeat so this will be the first test really.

Keep going everyone.

Can I join.

I started at 211lb in June. Weighed in at 204.8lb this morning, which is actually 1lb heavier than last week.

I spoke to a nutrionist and he said to concentrate on eating 80g of protein today and not worry so much on the calories.

I have another 50.8lb to go to my target weight.

sorry it's in lbs I can't figure how to change my scales

@Toooldtoworry that sounds like you are doing great. Steady loss is the best. I was listening to a podcast and they were very focused on the big picture and not to let small fluctuations bother you. Just keep going, be consistent and it will come off. I can get obsessed with measurements so have to be really strict with myself to just do once a week. Bloat makes such a difference!

I hope it is ok to mention this, as it is kind of a weight aid although a natural type of one. Has anyone tried glucommanon capsules? they are the fibre which is in those konjac noodles. I had some yesterday and thanked it helped me be a bit less hungry.

@Orangesandlemons77 I've never heard of that. Where do you get it? Is it like the fibre stuff that swells in your stomach? Physillium husk...?

I'm really reluctant to use anything other than natural methods of a change in diet lifestyle and exercise. I have an underactive thyroid so already take Thyroxine and Vit D

I got it on Amazon, it was about £15 for a month supply, it is basically the same ingredient as those konjac or 'zero carb' noodles you can get in places like Holland and Barrett.

https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/vitamins-supplements/supplements/glucomannan/?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=nonbrand/&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=nonbrand&&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD96OoJGRenxMqSFHT3L0Qv-y23il&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjM_zgaHMhwMVkI9QBh0X-xHoEAAYAyAAEgIzUfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

They seem to have mixed it in to a 'slim' range at Holland and Barrett but in checking it contains stuff like maltodextrin, I think I prefer to just take the capsules and have my Purition shakes. Have them with a good glass of water, they form a kind of 'gel' in the stomach apparently.

https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/holland-barrett-zero-carb-noodles-270g-6100002066?skuid=064746&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=pmax&&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD96OoLbvzXqsLGCG6cg_Vtuqb4I2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk-nPh6LMhwMVvZVQBh3bkQ7OEAQYASABEgJuXvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Noodles make from the same stuff

https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/holland-barrett-zero-carb-rice-270g-6100002067

Or rice

In Japan they are called Shirataki noodles so can also be found if searching for that as well.

Sorry for all the messages, got a bit carried away there! Have a good day

How’s everyone? How are you doing in the face of the challenges of summer?

just checking in after my 9 days away in France….I am quite pleased with how it all went. I’ve previously been very susceptibls to having an ‘all or nothing’ mindset with diets where I’m either sticking to it 100% and doing great or ‘off the wagon’ and eating everything in sight and thinking ‘sod it I’m on holiday’. So the big objective this week (other than enjoying the trip!) was trying to find more of a middle way.

I decided in advance that I’d track breakfast and lunch and try to keep those fairly healthy/ stick to my usual 14-16 hour fast where practical. And to try and run every day it was practical or walk as much as possible. But other than that I was aiming to eat and drink things I would really enjoy and not overeat so I was uncomfortable but not obsess and just have fun.

I stuck to those and definitely ate and drunk ‘well’!! But I didn’t completely fall off the wagon, didn’t really snack etc and generally felt in quite a good mindset towards my diet and body and enjoyed the food and drink without the usual wave of self-loathing which starts when I overindulge.

i weighed in up nearly 4lbs on the day we got back 😳 but two days later I’m only 1.5lbs up, which seems reasonable. We’re off again for a long weekend this weekend so not long until the next challenge but I’ve found it fine to slot back into my better habits now we’re back and still feeling pretty committed to the project.

Would love to hear any updates from others!!

Well done @OneDayIWillLearn that sounds like a good result!

I’m still on a bit of a plateau. I think this is the danger point for me so I really need to get a grip or too many little extras will sneak in.

Hope others are doing a bit better.

@artant thanks! Actually on the scales this morning I’m back to pre-holiday weight so I’m taking that as a result.

I’m actually aiming for a plateau at the moment (weigh no more at the end of August than the start) - I know what you mean about it being a danger zone but I’m really much better at losing (or gaining!) weight than I am at staying on a level so I’m seeing it as a skill I really need to master in the long term.

I think it’s a difficult balance though between being kind to yourself and not aiming for unrealistic perfection but also not starting to let yourself make excuses for poor habits and choices. I’m still finding my way with this one!!!