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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Human Being Diet - HBD

171 replies

Rugby1971 · 29/01/2024 13:11

Hi, started phase 1 today, anyone else following the reset in 2024?

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ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 05/05/2024 21:53

Salad leaves, chicken breast, tins of tuna, apples, prawns, smoked salmon (watch out for added sugar), chick pea flower to make flatbreads or hummus. Frozen cauli rice and veg. Eggs! I keep it pretty simple as I’m lazy, but recipe book is great!

Fluffywithteeth · 06/05/2024 07:13

Thank you @ItsNotEasyBeingGreens !

potkettle1 · 06/05/2024 10:57

Get a non stick pan if you don't already have one. We've relied heavily on smoked mackerel for lunches. Lots of different veg. Garlic salt, Himalayan salt. Good luck 👍

Fluffywithteeth · 06/05/2024 15:24

Thanks @potkettle1 !

MissisBoote · 06/05/2024 18:48

Sea bass fillets got me through phase 2. So nice to have the flavour of oil if you grill them with the skin on. I had mine with green veg. You also get quite a lot of fish for the weight compared to meat so it looks like you're getting a lot of food. As opposed to stir fry veg where it disappears to nothing.

Hard boiled eggs are really handy to have in the fridge for a quick and easy lunch.

Fluffywithteeth · 06/05/2024 19:44

Thanks @MissisBoote !

Fluffywithteeth · 11/05/2024 15:08

So.. P1 done and Day 3 of P2. Not toooo bad so far! Do any of you use for air fryer for hbd recipes? If so pls would you share? I just got an air fryer (I know late adopter) and wondered how good it was hot this type of cooking
thanks all x

ItsNotEasyBeingGreens · 11/05/2024 15:51

That’s great @Fluffywithteeth

I’m no use because I don’t have one - but do keep thinking of getting one - as I see lots of people using them for HBD on Instagram. The chickpea flatbreads look good when they’re cooked that way.

lemontova · 21/05/2024 13:39

If it's not too late - I use an air fryer all the time for HBD. Sweet potato fries, chicken strips etc. Ours is tefal with a steamer function so great for fish and vegetables. My fave thing is to air fry cauliflower then melt cheese on it. Or butternut squash discs, then when almost done you add some hallumi slices so it's crunchy on the outside, and sandwich with coriander, red onion, avocado smash, lime juice. I saw someone do this on insta and am addicted!

Fluffywithteeth · 21/05/2024 14:48

lemontova · 21/05/2024 13:39

If it's not too late - I use an air fryer all the time for HBD. Sweet potato fries, chicken strips etc. Ours is tefal with a steamer function so great for fish and vegetables. My fave thing is to air fry cauliflower then melt cheese on it. Or butternut squash discs, then when almost done you add some hallumi slices so it's crunchy on the outside, and sandwich with coriander, red onion, avocado smash, lime juice. I saw someone do this on insta and am addicted!

Ah thank you! That is so helpful. I got one but am still a bit scared of it 🤭 both recipes sound fantastic - how long do you do the cauli for? And do add oil or do without? X

lemontova · 21/05/2024 15:10

Laziest way is that I just cut off the leaves then put it in whole - 180 for 10 mins air fry - then it's browned on the outside and cooked through. But sometimes I slice it into steaks or break into florets and weigh portions, then air fry same time. It's probably better with oil but you can do it without x

Syan7 · 22/05/2024 22:48

Hey Guys,

How is everyone going with their plans? I’ll finish my 3 months on June 1st but have to admit after being so strict for 10 weeks and losing almost 2 stone I completely fell off the wagon last week for the entire week. I was due on my period but have managed to resist hormonal temptations thus far but I also got quite ill and it was like my body was just craving carbs. I felt really run down and I was mindlessly eating biscuits and leftover pasta without a single thought or any kind of rationale. Feel like I’ve let myself down a bit and I’m desperate to get into my 10 stones bracket which I’m 2 lbs away from. I thought I could jump straight back on it this week but I’m still struggling. Mainly to drink so much water and picking (I’ve just picked at left over shepards pie after having a pretty good day, the day before I had a flat white - mid afternoon). I am going to extend the plan by another 2 weeks and finish mid June but I’m worried my mental discipline has gone to pot and I’m concerned about long term sustainability. I really need a plan of what to do in phase 4. I’ve clearly had enough of phase 3 and think even trying to do it -mon-Thursday isn’t going to work for me. Feeling a bit lost atm? I don’t know what I’m working towards. Any ideas or inspiration from anyone would be very much appreciated. Not being on insta hasn’t helped because it would be great to get some recipe ideas as I’m truly fed up of my whole food meals. Has anyone continued to lose weight in phase 4 or just maintain? I’d like to lose another 10 lbs but don’t think I have it in me to continue with phase 3 for another how many months? The thought of losing weight and actually losing it has really excited me and I’ve enjoyed feeling smaller. I’m concerned that the excitement has gone. I am also not as slim as I seem to remember I should be heading into my 10 stones? Maybe because I am not toned anymore though? Meh! Sorry for the ramble! I don’t know?

semideponent · 23/05/2024 07:29

I don't follow HBD religiously (partly because I'm not struggling with my weight) but I do try to follow it loosely because I've found there's so much wisdom in it, and if I follow the advice about sugar, nightshades, weighing my food and keeping protein/veg in ratio, my inflammation reduces. It's quite visible, actually, and I really feel it.

So here's my two, no three, cents:

This diet is really hard to do without support and inspiration. I think one of its secrets is that it's such a welcoming community and that can do a lot to help with emotional and stress related eating right there. That's the instagram community really. I was resistant to joining that platform but so glad I did. I choose who I follow very carefully and not only get inspiration for HBD but some craft and painting projects that have been so much fun to do.

The other thing is that you really do have to know it inside out and how and why it works. There's the book of course (both the main book and the cookbook) but I've found the instagram lives and PR's YouTube videos so helpful for reinforcing the stuff in the book...partly because I'm listening rather than reading.

it's also like any huge change...very difficult to do when you're just focused on the outcome and approaching it in a linear way. Can you open things up a bit for yourself? Focus on how you want to feel? Maybe use some visualisation techniques around what kind of person you'd be if you followed it. I definitely had to do some work on my boundaries and saying no, rather than just going along with my partner's choices. That was a big one, actually!

Fluffywithteeth · 23/05/2024 13:57

I’m really sorry @Syan7 snd I really sympathise. First thing to say is that you have amazing self disiapline - you’ve followed the plan for so long and had phenomenal success - you have a great track record!

have you got the cookbook? Genuinely nice recipes, not too fiddly. Sounds like you might be quite sensitive to starchy carbs so maybe try and replace with beans ?

one thing I am trying to do to myself is talk to myself as if I would to my daughter or my friend. I would never say to someone I care about the really terrible things I say to myself. I am finding it is really making a difference

you could always set up a different email and then use that to create an instant account and then be anonymous?

x

potkettle1 · 23/05/2024 17:34

@Syan7 you have done brilliantly. Congratulations on losing 2 stone. I am way off that. I think maybe falling off the wagon and listening to your body was what you needed. Would it help to stop weighing for a bit and just focus on your clothes fitting. Or to do some exercise. I'm still doing strength training even though it's not allowed, as it's really counter intuitive for me not to. That might also help with toning and shifting focus from the scales? It's also quite empowering. I second the hbd insta community. It's a bit culty at times but mostly really helpful particularly on the recipe idea front. I'm finding that I can stick to hbd when I'm at home as there's no tempting foods in the house, but finding it much harder when I'm not - I think it has to fit with our lifestyles or else it's not long term sustainable. For me that probably means a slower weight loss but that's ok x

Syan7 · 24/05/2024 00:39

Thanks for everyone’s support guys and your kind words. It’s nice to get some outside opinions. I definitely should (probably be) a bit kinder to myself. I think you’re right - my body did need a break. I’ve realised I’ve found it so hard going this week because it’s another bank holiday weekend coming up and so I’ll have 3 days off again so there’s been a little bit of me that’s thinking well what’s the point this week after my break last week only to stop again. I will definitely consider an alternative insta account. I’ve only ever used fb as a platform and found the videos they added recently highly addictive! I will absolutely be watching the you tube videos though so thanks for the heads up. I didn’t even know they existed. I’ve only ever read the cook book not the actual book so have the main jist of the diet and exhausted the ideas in there. I went shopping and tried on some clothes today and it reminded me of the freedom I used to have when picking outfits. I accept I won’t be the person I was 5 yrs ago pre baby weight but a happier, healthier and lighter version of who I am now is what I’m striving for. I love clothes and I can’t wait establish a new sense of style! I’ve needed to weigh myself to keep me going but moving forward I think I will be incorporating exercise as it was always the plan for phase 4. The basic principles are great and I totally want to keep them up as a lifestyle choice. I’m almost certain I have a mild gluten intolerance so going gluten free even on chest days will be a big one for me. I just need to get some motivation and discipline back and decide what I’m going to stick with to make it sustainable long term. I don’t mind if the process slows down a bit. Thanks again to everyone. It sounds like you’ve all really made HBD your own. I will let you know how I get on :)

Fluffywithteeth · 24/05/2024 08:39

Ah that’s good to hear @Syan7 everyine goes off track now and then - it’s a good way of helping to re-decide which track to be on - not a moral failing. Have a lovely bank holiday - worth reading the actual book I think as sometimes giving your mind the ‘actual why’ can help with the talk you give yourself x

lemontova · 24/05/2024 11:03

Second/thirding the advice above! Reading the book (make sure it's second edition) is key and makes a big difference. Also the insta HBD account - I don't think I'd be so committed to HBD as a way of eating if it wasn't for that feeling of community and the way everyone shares recipes and supports each other there. My food pics are awful as I can cook but am rubbish at plating up, but it all feels very inspirational. When I'm really off the wagon, I just accept it for a bit but stick to a few core principles as much as possible, eg always always a HBD breakfast, no milk in my coffee (easy now!), trying to keep 5 hours between meals and not snack, general awareness that certain things will trigger a bit of a binge and try to choose protein / veg options rather than bread based. I think if you're not at your goal yet you need to revisit your 'why's and re-commit, maybe just give yourself a few days of no guilt 'holiday from hbd' but set an end point to it then do a big push and stick to phase 3 until you're happy with your weight. If you're not actively trying to lose weight then phase 4 will be easier to find a balance because you won't be feeling guilty all the time. Hopefully! You've done really well so far anyway.

Fluffywithteeth · 31/05/2024 08:32

Oh in gutted! Put on 0.6kg this week. I know they say it’s quite common when you switch form phase 2 to 3 but still 😞 will stick to the plan though and trust the process!

Hope everyone is doing well and looking forward to the weekend! X

lemontova · 31/05/2024 10:01

It'll come off again - that is one big poo away from staying the same x

potkettle1 · 31/05/2024 11:36

Yes, it will. My weight loss has been much slower than others, but I have now lost 15 lbs overall after 6.5 weeks. The plan does work. Keep the faith :-)

Fluffywithteeth · 31/05/2024 11:55

Ah thanks @lemontova and @potkettle1 - that’s what i really needed to hear!! Am cheering myself up with planning my cheat meal 😀 !

Lou71o · 05/01/2025 11:13

You can have yoghurt and fruit in phase 2 she says best to stay off dairy for 16 days but if you can't do that you can have 160 yoghurt and 100 grams of fruit I have been following for 2 years and lost 5 stone it gets easier.

Syan7 · 05/01/2025 14:48

@Lou71o well done! Unfortunately I only did it for 3 months. I lost 2 stone and had a traumatic event in the summer which is what knocked me off (I was beginning to struggle with hunger though). I’ve put the 2 stone back on and currently back on phase one today - I have a splitting headache! I’ve told myself this diet isn’t sustainable long term so always interesting to hear stories like yours. I’m not on insta etc so no support network. 5 stone is amazing! :)

Fluffywithteeth · 05/01/2025 17:56

So sorry to hear that @Syan7 - good for you for restarting.
I did really well on it - and definitely changed my eating (I never used to eat breakfast and was a terrible snacker) but Dec was a really terrible month …. Darent go on scales I reckon I must have put on a good 4 kgs…. 🙄 so annoyed with myself. Going to do a reste starting Tues 7th.

Hope it goes well for you this time - I found I had to limit carbs to not experience hunger and definitely no wheat for me! X

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