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“I started Ozempic last night” - THREAD SIX

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Peridot1 · 29/04/2023 08:07

Hi all. Just spotted the previous thread filled up so thought I’d start a new one quickly.

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SingaporeSling01 · 01/05/2023 09:04

Has anyone found a supplier with 1mg in stock?

Whisper23 · 01/05/2023 09:12

I'm so sick of people droning on about Ozempic face, gaining weight back when you stop taking it etc. As if any of these things are specific to Ozempic. These people never seen to consider the side effects of long term obesity. For years we've been told the risks of being overweight. Now that something has come along to help us do something about it we get told we shouldn't take it as our face might get thinner etc. Or we get told we're "cheating". Its almost as if people would prefer us to stay fat. Or at least suffer the hardships of a regular diet plan. We can't win.

MuMuMuuuum · 01/05/2023 09:23

SingaporeSling01 · 01/05/2023 09:04

Has anyone found a supplier with 1mg in stock?

Click Pharmacy has it in stock

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Peridot1 · 01/05/2023 09:27

@Thedreamer28 - it’s great your husband has had such a great response to the medication. Losing four stone will have huge health benefits. Particularly as the long term complications of diabetes can be so serious.

As others have pointed out so called Ozempic face is more than likely just a result of weight loss. I have found that the weight has sort of melted away from places that it hasn’t necessarily when I’ve lost weight before but it’s hard to know if that is from Ozempic or just because I haven’t lost this much weight before. It is noticeable in my face for sure and my neck particularly but then again I’m older than I was last time I was this weight.

the new drug you mention is actually still Ozempic really. If it’s Wegovy you are referring to. It’s just branded differently and will be available in higher doses than Ozempic.

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WhyDoesItAlways · 01/05/2023 10:03

I need a bit of juniper help please. I was going to order from them when I first started ozempic and went through the consultation but changed my mind and went with Manuel and then quick meds. Since quick meds are out of stock I decided to try juniper for the 1mg pen. I've just gone onto their site and noticed a lot of my details were already populated (presumably because I entered these previously). Anyway, they've taken payment but I didn't go through any sort of questionnaire to say that I've been taking ozempic for 8 weeks and would like the 1mg pen. Does this mean it's taken my answers from the consultation I did when I started to sign up as a new user and they will try and prescribe me a 0.25 pen? Will I have the opportunity to speak to them before they send anything out as I can't see a way to contact them at the moment? Hoping they'll be in touch to ask some questions so I can speak to them!

mumwheresmyribena · 01/05/2023 10:34

@Thedreamer28 Not sure which article you're referring to but your information seems to be all over the place, please do some proper research (not social media or the Daily Mail).

  1. "Ozempic face" is only a renamed "I lost weight quickly" face, it can happen however you lose weight if you lose it too quickly.
If people are then resorting to filters to counteract that there are various remedies, don't lose weight (with all it's actual and very real health costs), lose weight slower, accept that any human person stores fat in their face and may lose it. Plenty of people have been very happy with their new "leaner" face changes.
  1. "Once you stop your appetite comes back". We'll yes, what in earth do you think the drug does? The whole point of taking it for weight loss is to control blood sugar and affect the reward pathways in your brain thus giving you time and space to create new patterns of eating. This is the root of its original use as a diabetic med and why it comes with recommendations for eating smaller, lower carb, higher protein meals. Obesity is a disease that once you have it can't just be "cured", it's similar to alcoholism in that respect, you have to manage it. That should be very obvious from looking at the sort of ways of managing weight we have at present. Managing it could involve lifestyle changes, Ozempic longer term, removing yourself to a desert island or other aids, but managing it for life.
  1. "You're supposed to take the drug for 2 years" That's not correct, that's NICE's recommendation for Wegovy's use as a weight loss med, not Ozempic. NICE make recommendations about NHS use and prescriptions only, not private prescriptions, the recommendations are based on the evidence available for that use, at that time,, efficacy and economics, the recommendations change as time and evidence change. This has been discussed many times in these threads
  1. The "new injection for weight loss" you're taking about is probably Wegovy. Wegovy is actually exactly the same drug as Ozempic, but rebranded for weightloss. I expect "Ozempic face" will soon be rebranded too.
  1. "They don't talk much about what happens when you come off it" - "they" really do, however there's a subset of people who don't listen and/or don't think about what it means.
Sameiam · 01/05/2023 10:57

Looks like part of the shortage reasons are because Americans who were ordering from Canada (which is now blocked) have switched to ordering from the uk instead. Definitely going to try and stay a pen ahead so I have a month worst case to source a new one.

eloquent · 01/05/2023 11:00

Rosie219 · 01/05/2023 08:10

@eloquent yes, you can change suppliers. I got my first pen from Manual and my second from QuickMeds. It seems most suppliers will give you the next dose pen, if you tell them you are currently taking it. Although people have said they are struggling to get the 1mg pen at the moment, due to low stock.

Thank you Rosie 😁

MotherofTerriers · 01/05/2023 11:19

I've been getting it from Quickmeds but they seem to have taken it off their website altogether now, not just showing as out of stock.
A bit worrying, I will be ready to move up to the 1mg pen soon
Quickmeds is showing Wegovy, but not available yet, maybe it will be soon

SarahC50 · 01/05/2023 12:32

@Thedreamer28 I'm sorry but I don't think your post is helpful at all. Most of using ozempic have already tried multiple diets and are suffering or at risk of health problems due to our weight.
These threads are usually really supportive where we can ask questions and vent how we feel without judgement.
We have all thoroughly researched and weighed up the pros and cons of this dug and know about ozempic face and the risk of weight regain if we don't maintain new habits. I don't know who your post was aimed at but it wasn't helpful.

I'm on 0.5mg and finally my nausea has eased, it was brutal after my first 0.5mg. No way is this an easy journey is it. Hope all other ladies are having a good bank holiday xx

AutisticLegoLover · 01/05/2023 12:52

@SarahC50

We have all thoroughly researched and weighed up the pros and cons of this dug[sic]

Anyone reading these threads can see that this is not true. I don't think a day goes by where someone doesn't ask questions that relate to the very basics of how the drugs works despite already taking it. Many think it's a magic cure despite vehemently denying it. It's important these threads aren't an echo chamber and it's good to have some questioning about things so that lurkers can be helped to make an informed choice. People are free to post and no-one gets to police the threads. Anything breaking talk guidelines is different of course but that's for HQ to deal with if reported.

JemimaTab · 01/05/2023 12:53

WhyDoesItAlways · 01/05/2023 10:03

I need a bit of juniper help please. I was going to order from them when I first started ozempic and went through the consultation but changed my mind and went with Manuel and then quick meds. Since quick meds are out of stock I decided to try juniper for the 1mg pen. I've just gone onto their site and noticed a lot of my details were already populated (presumably because I entered these previously). Anyway, they've taken payment but I didn't go through any sort of questionnaire to say that I've been taking ozempic for 8 weeks and would like the 1mg pen. Does this mean it's taken my answers from the consultation I did when I started to sign up as a new user and they will try and prescribe me a 0.25 pen? Will I have the opportunity to speak to them before they send anything out as I can't see a way to contact them at the moment? Hoping they'll be in touch to ask some questions so I can speak to them!

There is an email address in the “Contact us” section of their website (you have to scroll right to the bottom), so that might be worth a try.

Lampzade · 01/05/2023 12:59

mumwheresmyribena · 01/05/2023 10:34

@Thedreamer28 Not sure which article you're referring to but your information seems to be all over the place, please do some proper research (not social media or the Daily Mail).

  1. "Ozempic face" is only a renamed "I lost weight quickly" face, it can happen however you lose weight if you lose it too quickly.
If people are then resorting to filters to counteract that there are various remedies, don't lose weight (with all it's actual and very real health costs), lose weight slower, accept that any human person stores fat in their face and may lose it. Plenty of people have been very happy with their new "leaner" face changes.
  1. "Once you stop your appetite comes back". We'll yes, what in earth do you think the drug does? The whole point of taking it for weight loss is to control blood sugar and affect the reward pathways in your brain thus giving you time and space to create new patterns of eating. This is the root of its original use as a diabetic med and why it comes with recommendations for eating smaller, lower carb, higher protein meals. Obesity is a disease that once you have it can't just be "cured", it's similar to alcoholism in that respect, you have to manage it. That should be very obvious from looking at the sort of ways of managing weight we have at present. Managing it could involve lifestyle changes, Ozempic longer term, removing yourself to a desert island or other aids, but managing it for life.
  1. "You're supposed to take the drug for 2 years" That's not correct, that's NICE's recommendation for Wegovy's use as a weight loss med, not Ozempic. NICE make recommendations about NHS use and prescriptions only, not private prescriptions, the recommendations are based on the evidence available for that use, at that time,, efficacy and economics, the recommendations change as time and evidence change. This has been discussed many times in these threads
  1. The "new injection for weight loss" you're taking about is probably Wegovy. Wegovy is actually exactly the same drug as Ozempic, but rebranded for weightloss. I expect "Ozempic face" will soon be rebranded too.
  1. "They don't talk much about what happens when you come off it" - "they" really do, however there's a subset of people who don't listen and/or don't think about what it means.

All of this

HolidayHappy123 · 01/05/2023 13:29

I'm starting Ozempic today. I asked my (private) GP whether I should go on it and she though it was a good idea - menopausal, high blood pressure and BMI of 38 with ADHD so no impulse control.

Cardiologist has got my blood pressure under control and said all I need is lifestyle changes and when I mentioned I was due to see an endocrinologist he said that if I was offered an injection I should take it. His view is that the world has changed and there are now medications designed to keep us healthier including maintaining a healthy weight.

Saw an endocrinologist who prescribed on the basis of a full set of blood tests showing mild fatty liver disease, likely sleep apnea (referral for further tests) and high BMI.

Prescription filled by my local pharmacist for £122 per pen.

I have 6 stone to lose to reach a healthy BMI. I have lost significant weight a couple of times following a healthy diet (protein and veg) when incentivised by upcoming significant life events (e.g. getting married). I know how to eat healthily but have a fairly chaotic lifestyle including high profile, stressful job and I tend to snack on the go and eat rubbish when I get home from work most nights at 10-11pm.

So fingers crossed this will work for me and the symptoms won't be too severe.

I am nervous about doing the injection though…

LimeBasilu · 01/05/2023 13:30

Brunilde · 30/04/2023 09:30

Just done my 4th injection. I did 0.25 for the first 2 but had very little symptoms or appetite suppression so did 0.5 last week and today (2 injections each week) but there still seems to be a fair bit of liquid left visible in the window. Maybe just less than halfway along. Is this right? I though 2 doses at 0.25 and 2 at 0.5 would use up the pen?

For anyone reading who thinks they may do this - please do not.

This is a serious drug with serious side effects and to go against the dosage protocol is irresponsible and potentially dangerous.

The first four weeks are at 0.25 for a reason.

HolidayHappy123 · 01/05/2023 13:31

P.S. All my doctors have indicated that I would likely to be on Ozempic / Wegovy and their future replacements for life.

Quokkasarecutest · 01/05/2023 13:34

I've looked into this drug for an obese family member. My feeling is that it is potentially very dangerous long-term, damaging to various internal organs and that the risks are much greater than suggested.

But I can see that if it is helping people to lose weight quickly, it must feel like a miracle solution. If I was in that position I can imagine I would not be receptive to warnings either

LimeBasilu · 01/05/2023 13:37

My feeling is that it is potentially very dangerous long-term, damaging to various internal organs and that the risks are much greater than suggested

Have you read the research studies?

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Peridot1 · 01/05/2023 13:37

Quokkasarecutest · 01/05/2023 13:34

I've looked into this drug for an obese family member. My feeling is that it is potentially very dangerous long-term, damaging to various internal organs and that the risks are much greater than suggested.

But I can see that if it is helping people to lose weight quickly, it must feel like a miracle solution. If I was in that position I can imagine I would not be receptive to warnings either

How exactly is it dangerous long term and how will it damage internal organs?

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Whisper23 · 01/05/2023 13:41

I've looked into this drug for an obese family member. My feeling is that it is potentially very dangerous long-term, damaging to various internal organs...

Obesity is very dangerous long-term, damaging to various internal organs. I'll take my chances, based on the scientific studies done, rather than heed warnings based on feelings.

RausageSoul · 01/05/2023 13:41

Not sure any of the posters on a thread called 'I started ozempic' need the opinions or 'research' of others, thanks anyway.

It's somewhat insulting to assume we've not already plowed hours into our own research thanks

LimeBasilu · 01/05/2023 13:45

RausageSoul · 01/05/2023 13:41

Not sure any of the posters on a thread called 'I started ozempic' need the opinions or 'research' of others, thanks anyway.

It's somewhat insulting to assume we've not already plowed hours into our own research thanks

Clearly you haven’t been following these threads Grin

RausageSoul · 01/05/2023 14:03

@LimeBasilu haha I suppose that's a royal we 😂

mumwheresmyribena · 01/05/2023 15:08

@Quokkasarecutest Could you post some sources for that info please? I'm aware that there are contraindications for Ozempic, they're well flagged and are/should be taken into account when prescribing. They've been discussed here too previously. The Zoë podcast is interesting on this subject.
However obesity itself has takes a very real toll on health and can significantly raise your risk of a huge range of serious health problems and diseases.

"People who have overweight or obesity*, compared to those with healthy weight, are at increased risk for many serious diseases and health conditions. These include:

  • All-causes of death (mortality).
  • High blood pressure (hypertension).
  • High LDL cholesterol, low HDL cholesterol, or high levels of triglycerides (dyslipidemia).
  • Type 2 diabetes.
  • Coronary heart disease.
  • Stroke.
  • Gallbladder disease.
  • Osteoarthritis (a breakdown of cartilage and bone within a joint).
  • Sleep apnea and breathing problems.
  • Many types of cancer
  • Low quality of life.
  • Mental illness such as clinical depression, anxiety, and other mental disorders
  • Body pain and difficulty with physical functioning.
From https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/effects/index.html

Effects of Overweight and Obesity

Excess weight increases risk for many serious diseases and conditions.

https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/effects/index.html

Twiglets1 · 01/05/2023 15:28

HolidayHappy123 · 01/05/2023 13:29

I'm starting Ozempic today. I asked my (private) GP whether I should go on it and she though it was a good idea - menopausal, high blood pressure and BMI of 38 with ADHD so no impulse control.

Cardiologist has got my blood pressure under control and said all I need is lifestyle changes and when I mentioned I was due to see an endocrinologist he said that if I was offered an injection I should take it. His view is that the world has changed and there are now medications designed to keep us healthier including maintaining a healthy weight.

Saw an endocrinologist who prescribed on the basis of a full set of blood tests showing mild fatty liver disease, likely sleep apnea (referral for further tests) and high BMI.

Prescription filled by my local pharmacist for £122 per pen.

I have 6 stone to lose to reach a healthy BMI. I have lost significant weight a couple of times following a healthy diet (protein and veg) when incentivised by upcoming significant life events (e.g. getting married). I know how to eat healthily but have a fairly chaotic lifestyle including high profile, stressful job and I tend to snack on the go and eat rubbish when I get home from work most nights at 10-11pm.

So fingers crossed this will work for me and the symptoms won't be too severe.

I am nervous about doing the injection though…

Good Luck for your progress on Ozempic and you sound a very suitable person to take it. Re feeling nervous about the injection, don't be! It is honestly very close to being completely painless.
I'm borderline needle phobic and was nervous too but it's so easy.