BigMoFos w/c 21 December

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hello there.

have been redirected to this page after boring everyone in chat.

Decided to lose weight, good idea I think as im 18ish stone and 5'2.

can I join your club?

Hiya MightyMoosh, glad you decided to pop in

I am not much lighter than you, although as I am a bit taller I "only" have about 6-7 stone to lose

I am at work atm but later on I will trawl the archives for WigWamBam's pep talk.

We are here for encouragement when things are going well, support when they aren't but most of all we understand the issues that surround overeating and the reasons why we all get so overweight in the first place.

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These threads are about attitude as much as anything: some of us were cheesed off with threads full of 7 stone people posting about being bloaters, and being hard on themselves because they needed to lose 4lb. We just wanted a place where people understood how large people feel, and where we could feel supported in a way that those 7 stone people couldn't manage to support us. Most of us have more than 5 stone to lose, but there are a few who are smaller but who found that the ethos of the threads suited them.

We're all doing our own thing rather than following a particular diet, the threads are more for support and motivation than anything else really. We do a weekly weigh-in for those who want it, but not all of us weigh in. Some just follow the thread for support, whichever you would feel more comfortable doing. It's all pretty free and easy but it seems to work. Weigh-in day has changed to Thursday, you can send me a starting weight if you want (which is purely between you, me and the fence post) or just send weekly losses - or not even bother with the weigh-in at all, if you prefer. Email is [email protected]

We only have one or two rules: No beating yourself up (we will do that for you if necessary). Each week is a new week and you leave last week?s problems behind. No pedantic grammar corrections (unless what you typed really doesn?t make sense); we are quite smart and will work out what you mean.

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Hi Moosh - I see Tiger's already bashed you over the head with our philosopy so that saves me a job

It's been a bit quiet over here for a little while but we seem to be picking up a bit now. Will be good to have you on board - most of us have at least as much to lose as you (some of us have more) so you are in good company.

Hi all,

And welcome MightyMoosh!

I guess I'm a little one (only having 3 stone to lose )but as I seem to lose and regain the same weight with regular monotony I find the support of all the lovely ladies here a god send!

They've also been wonderful at helping me realize why I constantly yoyo and I'm hopeful that maybe this time I'll lose the weight forever....Yeah Right

On the plus side I do seem to be half a stone lighter than when I first started posting (a year ago?) so something must be working, but like a tortoise its very sloooooow plodding!

I'll weigh in tomorrow and class that as a new start!

Ooops! Happy New Year everyone!

Happy new year LMS

Oooooh a mass weigh in tomorrow

Better make sure we do it one at a time

Looking forward to seeing all those losses this time next week

One thing I should ask- how do I find out my ideal/healthy weight? I'm less than I thought, 15 stone 4, and I'm 5'2. is there site which has a graph or something?

The Weight Watchers website has a BMI chart and an ideal weight range chart, you can find them here. Bear in mind that BMI isn't the best way to measure a "healthy" size - although given that it's athletes who really come out badly on the BMI charts, we probably don't need to worry too much about that

Lighterlife do a rather alarming BMI chart here, but that one just serves to make me very depressed as the figure balloons out to show how I must look!

I'd say not to get overly bogged down with ideal weights and figures just yet. I don't know about anyone else but I find that looking at ideal weights, and then thinking about the amount of weight I need to lose to get there, is soul destroying. I find it better for my head to not look so far into the future, and concentrate on the here and now - it's better for me if I look at a series of achievable short term goals for now, and just concentrate on each one as I hit them.

Although as I've spent the last two years losing and gaining the same old two stone, I may not be the best person to listen to ...

Most health professionals use the BMI system (Body Mass Index) which is calculated using your weight and height. It isn't completely foolproof as it doens't take gender or build into account - eg if you are male or have broad shoulders or are an athlete with a lot of muscle then you will have a higher BMI than a woman of a naturally slim build. I am fairly broad shouldered and have thick ankles and wrists and so carry weight more than someone who doesnt, eg I have a friend who is the same height as me, she is a real beanpole and looks chubby if she weighs 11 stone whereas when I weighed 11 stone I looked fine. (long time ago though )

There are links to BMI calculators on loads of sites - here's the BBC one

At 5'2 and 15st4 (or the closest the calculator will get you) your BMI is 39.02 categorising you as obese. Normal BMI for all heights is 18.5-25 which for you would be a range of about 7 - 10 stone - quite a wide range - but you only need to lose just over 5 stone to get there not the 10 you were saying on your other thread.

My BMI is 38.47 so we are practically BMI twins . My normal range is 8 stone - 11 stone. I have at least 6 stone to lose to get into that range

Ive had a look and I now think Im technically dead- good to know, I suppose. so I should be 7.11 to 9.11. bugger. oh well at least Im not diabetic yet (every cloud)

x posts with WWB - am going to look at the scary lighterlife link in a sec but will probably regret it!

Small steps definitely, but it is a heartening first step that you don't need to lose nearly as much as you originally thought. I intend to go with half stone steps. In all honesty if I can end 2008 weighing anything less than I weigh now I will be impressed as I tend to lose weight early in the year and then put it all on and more by Christmas [rolls eyes]

lol at "technically dead" - if you are then I'm decomposing. Think (based on guess of my current weight) that my BMI is currently 41 ish so my first and very small goal is to get back down into the Obese category (40 BMI and below) from teh oh my god you are about to die, lose some weight woman category.

Hi Dotty - I've had a bad 6 months too and have put back most of what I lost so we can hold hands and start again.

Nah - looks nowt like me - norks too pert for a start

My BMI is 44 - which is morbidly obese. Not so clever really.

According to that WW chart I should be between 9st 9lb and 12st 1lb. My norks alone must weigh that much!

It's been over 30 years since I last weighed nine stone anything ...

wow my head is tiny, never realised!

by dropping below 40 - I will no longer be a candidate for gastric surgery though...

9 stone something! ahahaha

[rolls around on floor clutching sides]

I'd have been rolling round on the floor too, Tiger ... except I'd never get back up again!

9st 9lb ... only another 11 stone to go then

were you considering gastric surgery Kewc? Have occasionally wondered about it myself...

I would rofl WWB but that seems somehow inappropriate

You all beat me to the sites with charts Tooooo damn busy doing returns.....quietly going mad....will hit the noisily going mad stage about Jan 10th!

my brother has been offers it Tiger though he is significantly heavier than me, I must confess to feeling a slight tinge of jealousy as it does seem like the easy option. Of course thats ridiculous as it isn't and it changes your life forever. In his case he is diabetic (by 40) and won't live past 50 at his current size and gets virtually no exercise.

I also have a feeling that it isn't the right option for me and if I can mainatin a healthier weight and healthier attitude to my weight even if I'm still 14/15 stone, I suspect I will be a happier person that if I go for gastric banding. And of course when I am below 40 bmi I won;t be eligible anyway...

LMS... you are making me feel guilty - I should be beavering away and I am lurking on MN and playing with the lighterlife bmi thingy instead

Kewcumber - I don't think that surgery would solve anything for me as it wouldn't get to the root of the problem. I need to retrain my thinking, stop seeing food as comfort and merely as a means to an end to keep my body healthy.

Today I have eaten a bowl of porridge with dried fruit, an egg sandwich on granary bread, a mince pie and some chocolate. Start well and steadily get worse as the day goes on... at least all the wine has gone from the house, i am not going to buy any more this month (more roffling)

Ooh that Lighterlife thing's addictive, but scary. See what it looks like if you take it down to the minimum - 4 stone. My BMI is, I think, currently 35.7, and I need to lose 4 and a bit stone to get down into the green region. And about a stone to get from the red into the orange region.