Diet pills

[Dietpill]

I have always struggled with my weight but put it down to secret eating/too big portions etc.

Since lockdown, I have gone from eating 3 meals a day to 1.
I did extreme keto for a couple of months but didn't lose any weight and got really bad headaches so now I do low carb. I wasn't losing weight so I now have high carb/cheat days which seems to actually help! And since April I have lost about 3lbs in total.

For the amount I eat and the fact I am on my feet all day I would hope/want to be losing a lot more than this!

So I was wondering if anyone takes any diet pills to help with weight loss?
I am worried about side effects so I haven't trusted the reviews online incase they are fake.

I mean, if you’re really doing all you say and you’ve only lost 3lb then yes you definitely need that investigating properly.

Do you think I should not have carbs on the third day? Or have carbs all three days?

As said, low carb is all or nothing, there is no inbetween,

So if you want to do low carb, stick to twenty grams and commit to do it every day. Cheats should be very rare. And certainly not within the first month. Any cheat will throw you out of keto after that period, and it will take you on average three days to get back into it, depending on the level of the cheat and your exercise regime.

If you can’t do that commitment , then don’t do it at all. Because you need two weeks to make your body full fat adapted. Not two days.

So your body op, gets it’s energy from carbs. Not fat. So by reducing carbs for two days you’ll just be proper knackered. No energy, And likely very hungry. Craving carbs.

You’re burning carbs for energy, So for those two days you’ll be running on empty. And pay the price.

So you need to fully commit snd do it every single day till or don’t do it at all.

Look @Dietpill - and I'm assuming you're serious/genuine - you're all over the place here.

You're keto, low carb, carb cycling, calorie counting - WTAF is the plan you're trying to follow?

I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but given that what you're doing is clearly not working for you, you need to take a big step back and reconsider things.

If you want to lose weight, and want to suppress your appetite, then low carb is a really good way to do that. However you have to follow it properly.

If you have really, genuinely, hand-on-heart followed a low carb plan properly (for more than a couple of days) and it hasn't worked for you - then fine.

But it does sound, from all your posts, that you're just not sticking to one thing, and that you're veering all over the place - sometimes low carb, sometimes high carb, sometimes counting calories - and sometimes hoping that exercise will help you.

There are a myriad ways of losing weight. But if you don't stick to one way, it really won't work for you!

My experience of people saying low carb/ keto doesn’t work is that they haven’t actually properly done low carb/ keto

I’ve not known of anyone who doesn’t lose weight when they do it properly

I have to agree with biwi. If you were doing one thing properly you’d likely be about ten stone right now.

You’re not doing anything consistently. You must be knackered, hungry, and craving carbs.

If you want to do low calorie, do it. But go to ready meals for a month, they aren’t the healthiest but you’ll start to get an idea of portion size and the calories are on the pack, becayse you’re not counting your calories correctly.. Don’t be cheating every week. Don’t snack, count everything you eat and drink. Average it over a week.

Or do low carb, and do it consistently every day, don’t be cheating at all. Stick to thr twenty grams for at least the first month and count the carbs in everything, inc your veg and drinks.

But if you want to do this and stop messing then you need to pick one thing, stick to it snd make sure you’re doing it right.

Personally id pick low carb. Follow the rules on biwis boot camp spreadsheet. Religiously. Your appetite will reduce, you’ll have loads of energy and not crave carbs and sugar.

You need to pick one and stick to it.

I can't imagine me doing proper keto. Few days ago, my highest carbs were from a pomegranate 😂 I still managed like 90g in total.
To me it's a black magic. 😂

I agree with pps, OP. You need to decide what is it you want to do and stick with it for a while to see how it's working for you. Whether it's keto, low carb, calories kr something else completely.

You're keto, low carb, carb cycling, calorie counting - WTAF is the plan you're trying to follow?

I have done calorie counting for years and I have struggled to lose weight so I did keto (as well as count calories) for 4 months and didn't lose weight but I enjoyed the meals and had more energy but it gave me bad headaches and hair loss so I decided to add more carbs to my diet.
I then tried carb cycling which again didn't help me lose weight but it stopped the headaches etc and my weekly carb intake is still a lot lower than if I was having carbs every day.
I was told I needed to have a cheat day as my body will just get used to having low calorie/low carb etc and I have managed to lose 3lb but it has taken me a couple of months and I have been counting both carbs and calories since April but I was just counting calories before that.

I'm not trying to follow any specific plan I am trying different plans for a couple of months each to find what works for my body which I haven't found yet which is why I am asking for diet pill advice.

But you must know that pills aren't the answer!!!

Goodness, it's frustrating reading your posts!

You do need to follow a specific plan. You can't switch between things all the time as your body just doesn't know what to do!

Come and join us on Bootcamp. You'll get lots of support there, and there's a clear and consistent plan to follow. We're just about to start week 8, but it doesn't matter - you can join in at any time, and there are always lots of posters who carry on after Bootcamp has finished.

To be clear:

Bootcamp is low carb, high fat, medium protein.
We don't count carbs (although we do keep them low by excluding some foods and restricting others)
We don't count calories - because we need to keep the fat levels high
There are only 10 rules, which makes it easier to follow

But most of all, you'll have the support, advice and wisdom from all the other Bootcampers, which will help you to stay on track and achieve your goals

Gosh op

I don’t know if this is you simply can’t understand what’s being said to you, or you don’t want to understand, I suspect it’s actually the former, you just don’t understand it

And that’s why you’re not loosing weight.

Make it simple for yourself.

Either follow biwis boot camp as she’s suggested. But do it totally and consistently

Or move to ready meals and calorie count that way. Read the back of the packets, and don’t consume other stuff.

With both of these methods you will loose weight.

This OP has been on here many, many times. She's clearly got an eating disorder and needs help. Sorry, OP, but you really should be looking at counselling rather than diet help.

@HollowTalk

This OP has been on here many, many times. She's clearly got an eating disorder and needs help. Sorry, OP, but you really should be looking at counselling rather than diet help.

Oh no! I'm sorry OP if this is true, then all the advice here would be completely different

This OP has been on here many, many times. She's clearly got an eating disorder and needs help. Sorry, OP, but you really should be looking at counselling rather than diet help.

I have posted on here one time before about my diet so it must be another poster in a similar situation.

@HollowTalk

This OP has been on here many, many times. She's clearly got an eating disorder and needs help. Sorry, OP, but you really should be looking at counselling rather than diet help.

Oh ok that maybe explains it.

Op can you go into more detail?

I haven't done diet pills sorry so might not be much help. Have you tried 3 meals (to keep you metabolism working), smaller portions, no snacking in between meals. This is what works for me x

You do need to follow a specific plan. You can't switch between things all the time as your body just doesn't know what to do!

Yes I get this but I have followed different plans before but if they are not working after a couple of months then they are obviously not for me.

I don't see the point in carrying on with keto if after 4 months I had no weight loss. Similarly to low carb and so I asked for advice and was told about having a higher carb day which is what I am doing now. My sister loses weight if she eats lots of pasta but a lot of people would avoid pasta so everyone is different.

How long would you suggest following a plan before trying something different?

Have you tried 3 meals (to keep you metabolism working), smaller portions, no snacking in between meals. This is what works for me x

Do you count calories?

I don't have a lot of time to eat breakfast or lunch so tend to just eat my dinner and have a piece of fruit during the daytime if I am really hungry.
I have been advised to have a protein shake in the mornings but I haven't tried yet as surely this is just adding more calories? I have also been advised to only eat in a small window during the day - there's so much contradicting advice!

The thing is you’re not doing any plan right op. That’s why you’re not loosing weight.

You’re significantly under estimating your calories so not doing low cal and you’re clearly not counting your carbs properly so not doing keto or low carb either.

You’re not really doing any plan and haven’t been this year.

@MawkishHawk yes, they prescribe a variety of different medications. I haven't had orlistat through them, but have had it a few years ago and didn't get on with it.

there's so much contradicting advice!

That's because different things work for different people,their lifestyles,their circumstances,their metabolism.

The issue is that whatever you're doing now , is not working.

Most shit doesn't work for me either (mostly my own fault) and I have PCOS so I should definitely do low carb/keto but I can't. I can cope with the headaches and feeling ill and tired but it badly affects my mental health. I'm fussy as fuck too so that adds an extra challenge.

However there are a few things that do work(and then I plateau so never got to goal weight since I started so high to begin with), even if painstakingly slow and hard work.

My ways are probably fucked up and unhealthy which is why I'm not sharing,but do try and listen and join some of the posters/threads on here.

Something is not right, and if it's not your body/metabolism then it must be the way you're doing things. That doesn't mean you're wrong ,just that it's the wrong method . You're obviously committed and willing to put the work in so maybe try something else.

Honestly op I think the simplest way for you would be something like a slim fast shake in the morning snd a ready meal in the evening.

I don’t believe in meal replacement diets but I don’t think you can achieve it any other way,

It’s like you aren’t listening or can’t understand what’s being said.

Apologies for adding to the long list of suggestions but if you don't like low carb and calorie counting isn't working and you also seem to be struggling a bit with consistency then I'd really suggest joining a slimming group with others who can provide a bit of support.
This could be BIWI's low carb group here if you're willing to give proper low carb a go, or perhaps Slimming World or Weight Watchers where there's some support and advice and actual rules to follow. The important thing is to be really clear on what you're doing and be consistent for long periods of time.
I agree with all the advice from PP that flitting between different diets and making up the rules yourself is a recipe for wasting a lot of time and not losing a lot of weight.
There's a lot of help out there OP! Good luck.x

@Dietpill

I started at 233lb in August, currently 190lb with another 28lb to go to hit healthy BMI. So 3 stone in 4 months. It hasn't always been linear, I've had big drops one week then a gain the next.

My typical day looks like this:

B - nothing, just coffee with a splash of skimmed milk or water.

L - about 11:30/12pm - green veg and/or mushrooms with a tsp butter, seasoning and 3 slices of wafer thin chicken sliced into it. I have loads of veg to make a big plate that fills me up. A cup of green beans is 40 calories so you can have lots of veg for under 200 cals

D - pork loin steak or chicken breast with a rub seasoning rather than a sauce, served with veg - brocolli/carrots/green beans/sweetcorn. One of my favourite sides is green beans or broccoli roasted with garlic, a tsp olive oil and a sprinkle of sea salt.

Where possible I don't have snacks, if I do feel hungry though I have something like Greek yoghurt (full fat), 30g serving of nuts or beef jerky.

That always leaves me enough calories to have at least one Emmi skinny latte milkshake drink (87 cals) which I love. I feel deprived if I don't have it which for me is a guaranteed way to fail as if I feel deprived I fall off the wagon.

I stop eating at about 7pm but do drink water after that point.

Did you track your carbs?
Having been keto I know it's so so easy to go over your 20g and to underestimate how many carbs are in food.
My friend really really struggled to loose on keto but turns out she was 'guesstimating' foods. I found you had to be super strict and weigh foods to begin with.
I used carb manager and found it really good.
The headaches you experienced are pretty normal. I used to drink chicken oxo to help with electrolytes. They do pass pretty quick too.
Maybe take the pressure off loosing weight just now abs re visit it in January.
The biggest thing for me with weight loss is getting my head in the game, if I'm not in the right mindset it's near impossible.

If you're on your feet all day you really ought to be having something for breakfast and if you skip lunch as well then it's no wonder you are tired a lot of the time. What sort of job do you do where you can't even find time to go to the toilet? Can you prepare breakfast the night before? Same goes for lunch. Also, soup is excellent for filling you up, the fresh ones in the chiller cabinets are good, and one carton is enough for two meals.

@Dietpill

Have you tried 3 meals (to keep you metabolism working), smaller portions, no snacking in between meals. This is what works for me x

Do you count calories?

I don't have a lot of time to eat breakfast or lunch so tend to just eat my dinner and have a piece of fruit during the daytime if I am really hungry.
I have been advised to have a protein shake in the mornings but I haven't tried yet as surely this is just adding more calories? I have also been advised to only eat in a small window during the day - there's so much contradicting advice!

Who are all these people who are advising you? Because you're being given contradictory (and probably not very helpful) advice!

You asked earlier how long to stay on a plan before deciding it isn't working. But the issue here is it doesn't sound like you're properly following any plan.