So I thought it would be slimming to give up sandwiches but I have put on weight

[NoahVale]

whats the deal with that?
I have taken pasta/rice salads every day, no cheese
where did I go wrong?
and was I wrong about bread?

You have just replaces high carbs with an equal thing. Or bread and pasta are basically the same

Swap for high carb free. Ie salads with meat and dairy. Such as spinach/ tomato and cucumber with goats cheese and chicken. Beetroot and grated carrot separately.

oh really?
i thought it was bread that was the baddie

Pasta is worse, really.

Well, fundamentally, it's about calories. So, if you replace carbs with, say, 250 calories with different carbs with the same or higher value, then it won't help. You could either work out the calories in each lunch, or just skip the carby element entirely.

Totally understand your disappointment though. It's frustrating when you've made an effort that goes unrewarded.

Well both are basically wheat and water so equal ingredients surely.

Rice grows naturally where as bread and pasta are made using refined wheat so rice is your best option out of the three. Bread wise, try rye breads instead. Rye is digested easier, and as a heavier bread you eat less usually ( mainly one slice with filling on top as an open sandwich, rather than the British typical sandwich)

Skipping the foods commonly known as carbs is the easiest and probably the healthiest way. But it takes commitment.

Also, not all calories are created equally. If you have insulin resistance at all, for example, a 'healthy' amount of carbs will wreak havoc with your weight compared to an equal amount of calories in veg/protein.

By cutting out carbs (apart from those naturally occurring in fruit and vegetables - and I monitor my intake of those) I have lost 15lbs in the last 5 weeks OP. I recommend the following cook book: 'the big book of low carb recipes' by Nicola Graimes

ok, so i would be ok with brown rice salads? small portion obviously

and it is brown pasta? does that help?

I personally wouldn't eat rice whilst trying to loose weight - brown rice or otherwise

Or pasta!!!!

You're swapping one carb for another. You need to have protein/veg/salad/good fats. So a big salad with chicken and avocado for example.

Pasta is wheat Noah. Durum wheat.

I have no wheat, oats , barley . I have no carbs excluding veg and a piece of fruit until evening when I have whole grain rice or sweet potato.

I only have ordinary potato if I'm eating out and there are no other choices.

Same here HMC. No bread/pasta/rice.

Step away from the carb.
It's the carb that is killing you - you just keep changing the form you get it in.

No food per se is a cause of weight gain or loss. You can't swap one ingredient for another of equal value and expect to lose weight. You need to do some research into calories, carbs and fat to understand what you are trying to achieve.

not a fan of meat though

Then eat what you like.

Can do large veggie salads or with fish? Do you like various fish?

Beetroot, nuts, seeds, avocado, sweet corn, leaves, tomatoes, onions, radish, cucumber, cheese, carrot.

If you want to keep one I would say keep the rice. But do say rice with roasted veg, with veg being 60/70% and rice the smaller portion rather than the other way around

Sounds like you're just replacing the calories in a sandwich with the calories in pasta/rice etc.
The only way I've ever lost weight is restricting (not completely cutting out) carbs.

sorry that was to pagwatch

thanks folks.

Keep eating what you like but have smaller portions. Use My Fitness Pal to track your calories.

I am on slimming world, no bread in diet at mo but eat sushi a lot for lunch. If having pasta or rice I have them with "free" foods such as a tomato sauce or five bean chilli Or a green salad with egg and baby potatoes.

My fitness pal has so many multiple entries with different values that you can't trust.