Paul McKenna's 'I Can Make You Thin' Thread #15...The New Beginning!

[Solo]

Welcome to thread #15 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded friendly support system are:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

HELPFUL TIPS!
Lots of chewing; at least 20 chews per mouthful.

Ask yourself "am I really hungry?" Listen for your 'full signal' and leave at least a mouthful on your plate at every meal. Eat your favourite thing from your plate first so that if you get to the full signal, but have your favourite food still sitting there, you aren't going to 'make room' for it because you love it, it will have already gone.

Admire something about yourself every day in the mirror.
Try to move more; dance around the living room or walk to school...use the stairs...small things, but good things!

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. After all, eating a meal is not a competition, it's about enjoying what you are putting into your mouth and body, but not feeling bloated and uncomfortable (or guilty) afterwards!
Many people have issues around food. Many of us have been brought up by the 'clear your plate' parents of yesteryear which leave us feeling guilty if we leave even the smallest morsel of food, but we are working through this guilt or any other hang up we may have, and we are learning to leave a bit on the plate; return to it another time if we really want to or even feed it to the dog or the bin!
So!! forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!! Let's get lighter for those summer outfits!!

The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

You don't have to buy the book and CD, but we have found that they do help and somehow they keep you on track, so it would probably be a good investment and will cost you far less than a couple of trips to WW or SW meetings, so do consider having them in your life.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry and that is a great way to feel when you are dropping dress sizes at the same time!!! so come on in and start living your new life today and make 2014 your year to drop a dress size or several...if we can get those lbs off a few at a time, just think how we could look and feel for the sunny summer time!!!
Some of our thread members are also doing PMK's Virtual Gastric Band and although this thread is not about this avenue, we will still be supportive of our friends partaking of this, so don't think we won't be there for you. I'm pretty sure that the Golden Rules will be just as helpful in this process as the I Can Make You Thin process so get stuck in

Here is a link to From Emotional Eating which may give some insight into why we do this and help us beat it.

Ps. Could we all try to sign in at least every few days so that someone is there? We have established that it's no fun talking to ourselves and also that if there is a new joiner, it's good to say 'hello and welcome' to them too.

Ok! Let's Focus and See Ourselves wearing that body we desire! learning to love ourselves is an important daily step, so let's become LOSERS in order to be WINNERS!!! :)

Hi guns :) I've not been doing great this past week or so, but I think it's hormones; it's a bit like the PMS nibbles, but as I've gone past that stage of my life, I think maybe it's just the PMS ghost!! . Going to get busy today, so hopefully I'll not be food focused today at least!!

How are you all? how are you doing? Thread very quiet right now. We need geeing up!!!

Well. I can say it is definitely working for me. Firstly because I have lost 9lb without any of the panic, deprivation and lapses I have on diets. Secondly because of how I feel right now. I feel terrible!!

I totally forgot about the rules at lunch. Partly because we were eating as a family and I forgot, partly because it was home made soup and I didn't want my effort to be poured away (silly) but mainly because my lifelong diet mentality resurrected itself. I knew everything in the soup was healthy and I interpreted it as "free food" and stuffed myself. Half a slice of bread and two enormous bowlfuls later I feel awFul. I can feel my stomach stretching- it feels like my lower ribs are moving apart and my stomach feels swollen and heavy. Definitely 9 and a half on the hunger scale. How silly to have this feeling over soup not chocolate or even buttery toast! Probably because the diet thinking is so entrained.

It has shown me how much the rules have re educated me and I am sticking to them! Good luck everyone!

But don't think of it as failure! think of it as a lesson in how I feel when I ignore/forget etc. Just get right back on the wagon and start again :) it doesn't matter if it has taught you a valuable lesson now does it?!

And well done indeed on the 9lb off.

Hi, probs with computer last two days.

Well done Steala, 9lbs is fantastic. i agree with Solo, look on the positive side and use it as reference tool for future.

I am on the opposite side, not following the rules AT ALL but freely eating everything considered forbidden! I think the cd has had some effect as I am getting to the point of 'I will pop if I eat one more thing' much quicker than a week ago, but its very uncomfortable.

I am trying to acknowledge that whilst its entirely my own fault (obviously), I dont fall into the trap of self loathing/guilt with it, nor use it as an excuse to carry on this way.

I have reread the book cover to cover and practiced the Havening technique till I know it by heart.

will just keep trying.

Dora

I hope you all enjoy the extra hour tomorrow x

Hi Everyone,
Dora what you are experiencing is normal. Perfectly normal.
When you allow yourself to eat food that you really want and have always previously considered to be forbidden, then it can take some time for your mind to adjust. But you will. Eventually your mind will realise that it doesn't have to overeat all the lovely food. If the lovely food is always there then it becomes "just food". Does that make sense?
I learnt this lesson many many moons ago and have always had all food I love in my kitchen ever since. We are talking almost twenty years ago now.
I brought up my kids to view all food as equal, not good nor bad, just food.
Always have a chocolate drawer, cakes if they are wanted, cheeses, olives, fruit, veg, crisps, nuts, full fat mayo, full fat everything.
Having grown up with a dieting mother who dieted me to the point of hunger always, I was not going to have my children brought up this way.
Just except that at the moment you are changing your mindset and you will not keep overeating the food forever.

Hope everyone is ok. Solo, these bloody hormones hey? Grrrr. Just because you go through the change doesn't mean they still don't have a big impact on you still. They do!!!!

I have now lost 7lbs so am doing ok.

I think I'm OK now :) still maintaining, but would really like to start losing again.

If I had a drawer full of chocolate and cake, Ds would eat the lot very quickly. I actually have to hide the pain au chocolate which I buy for him every week as if I didn't, it would be gone inside one day. All twelve of them or more if I buy more. He even said I needed to hide them from him after I bought 4 packs that were on offer last Sunday. If I had not, he would have eaten them all. It makes me angry.

That sounds like me before I changed the way I was with food Solo.
I used to overeat because so called "treat" food wasn't allowed. So when it was there I would eat it (and eat it on the sly too) because I wasn't allowed it. (If you see what I mean).

Yes, I know what you mean, but it makes little sense as Ds has always been well fed. I didn't used to buy a lot of sweet stuff and sweets, but I can't see why he'd go to the way he has...I certainly hope Dd doesn't do it.

Mmmmm. Even though you buy sweet things, do you control his food intake and watch what he eats and comment? Its hard not to I know especially with food being so bloody expensive but its a thought.

By the way Solo how is your liver doing? How are you feeling now too as it was giving you gip for ages?

Just seen that you don't generally buy sweets and cakes. I wonder if that's what this is then. He sees them as something " special and normally not allowed so he goes mad when they around. Sounds like bingeing

Hi all

Milli - thank you so much for your words of support and encouragement, it is very much appreciated.

I agree about not making any food a treat as then it's seen as something special. I am in no way blaming my childhood but we definitely had treats and I fear I may have already done this to my son. I have been trying to instil in him the knowledge of what food does for us and why some choices are better than others but who knows how it will turn out!!

Can I just thank you all for the way in which you respond to the messages, when I started looking for a forum I couldn't believe the vitriol some people post in response to questions etc. one site was extremely 'vocal' in their criticisms when a member mentioned they were doing the CD.

Anyway, thank you all, whilst I might not have completely succeeded in all the steps you are definitely making it easier!

Oh, even with all my overeating I have lost 3lbs! Good luck for the coming week, positive thoughts everyone.

Dora x

Yay!!! Well done on the three pounds Dora. I thinks its hard enough being parents without beating ourselves up for anything. I just did Paul McKenna with my kids the same as I did it for me. I didn't want to repeat my childhood disordered eating with them.
Your doing well so just keep posting

No, I don't watch what he eats at all. I cook healthy food and the Dc's eat what is served. Ds just cannot stop himself; he knows he does it, but says he's always hungry. I don't know!

Dora well done on the 3lbs down! :)

Maybe then it is just as he says. He is always hungry. My son was throughout his teenage years and even now in his 20s, he can still eat constantly if he is hungry but also notice that he can go for long periods of not eating when he doesn't need it.

I have been reading this thread with interest, and I downloaded the app last night. Tonight will be my first 'hypno' session (have listened to his CDs before) and I am trying to listen to my body and figure out if I am hungry. My stomach is rumbling a bit, but I am not sure I am really hungry yet. So might not have breakfast today, just skip straight to lunch.

Hi Everyone, I hope you are all having a great positive day.

Millli, I have taken your responses to the messages and addressed the food/hungry issue with my child. Its half term so, apart from the family evening meal which is already planned, he has been allowed to eat what he wants, when he wants. I have asked each time if he is actually hungry and what does he fancy to eat. No pop allowed with food and he has to ONLY eat at the table, not just for meals but any snacks too. He is super thin so I am not worried weight wise but I do want him to KNOW when to eat and to hopefully WANT to eat nutritionally valuable food. I dont think he can believe his luck at the moment!! Will let you know how it goes. Whilst I have never banned food, he knows I 'dont' eat wheat / eat paleo and I could just see this heading towards some sort of weird situation when he is older. I dont tend to have much processed/ready meal food in the house anyway so his choices cant get too unhealthy, unless he asks for icecream for breakfast. (I did allow this on our last holiday and he didnt feel that great afterwards). I even asked in the sweet and bakery aisle of the supermarket if he fancied anything, he said no!! ( I wanted lots of things out of habit but held off buying any!)

I had a slight breakthough yesterday. I have always had one issue or another with food especially with the binge eating side of things BUT yesterday afternoon whilst prepping the tea I was desperate to eat something. I wasnt hungry and asked myself WHY I wanted to eat. For the first time ever i knew it was to make myself feel better!!!! It actually shocked me! I have never properly addressed the question before, I normally just go ahead and eat.

It seems so silly really, but its the first time EVERYTHING PMcK has said in his books etc rang true for me. The freedom from thinking about food hasnt happened yet as I seem to be catching myself wondering why I am not thinking about food! I have only eaten once so far today, a delicious tuna/mayo sandwich on , shock horror, white bread!! Ha!! it was lovely.

so, positive day so far, the real test will be this afternoon when getting tea ready again and making sure I use the Havening technique correctly.

fingers crossed

D x

Hi everyone, going to listen to my cd tonight and try and start again - so fed up of overeating and feeling bad. Can I ask which program everyone is following - I have 'I can make you thin', which I have had some success with in the past and 'emotional eating', which I find quite complex but may be more relevant to me - not sure which one to use.

Hi hippyfly

I am following the Gastric Band, I have done the I can make you thin, but it didnt work for me although I found it much easier to go into a trance with that CD than this one.

D x

Hi Dora,

Do you mind me asking how long you've been doing it and with what success. x

Hi hippy fly

I did the make you thin when it first came out.

The gastric band I started last week. Have lost 3lbs BUT I haven't followed the 4 rules at all. I have over eaten and eaten anything and everything, without guilt! That is a huge step forward for me. Have noticed a few things as per previous messages but feel ok so far, I am listening to cd almost everyday as I think I need it drilled into me to work fully!

Best of luck

Dx

Thanks Dora - good luck to you too. x

Steala how you doing? Glad to hear that the Rules are working for you

Kittie welcome

Dora sounds like you are really beginning to understand yourself with regard to food and all the emotions that surround it. I totally get the eating to make yourself feel better. I too suffer from bingeing issues and have become aware in the last 5 years that I feel the need to do it if I am alone for a long time in the house. I used to do it when I was a child and left alone in the house all day by myself. So being aware is definitely a step forward. Also if I even think about "dieting" that can bring on a need to overeat.
Sounds interesting with regards to your son. My son is very thin too. I have always let him eat this way as I mentioned in an earlier post. Not long ago he told me that he was out with a mate in a supermarket and his mate decided to buy lots of chocolate, crisps and cake etc and asked my son why he wasn't buying them too. My son was baffled by this and said to his mate that at home we have a drawer full of chocolate and crisps in the cupboard and coke on top of the fridge. His mate was surprised and said to him "do you know how bad they are for you". My son looked at him with his haul of chocolate, cakes, crisps etc and said that we have always had them at home and no one really bothers with them, if anyone does then they have a little and that's it. My son came home and told me about this and said it made him realise that other people view foods like that as forbidden and then go mad and eat them when they crave them but for him they are just like all the other food in the house. Not good not bad, just food. "Yes" I thought to myself. It works. . My son is in his 20s.
My daughter is the same with food.

Hippyfly Welcome.
I do Mindful Eating mainly. I suppose if I were to choose one I would say it would be the I can make you think CD to get you started and to learn how this way of eating (like a slim person) works.
I have done the Gastric Band CD and found that amazing for making me stop eating as soon as I am satisfied. In fact I cannot eat beyond a certain point now and it is usually only a small amount.

Dora interesting that you say you are still overeating with the Gastric Band CD. Has it not given you a sense of fullness and a need to stop when satisfied yet?

Sorry I hadn't finished but to posted anyway.
Dora I was saying about the Gastric Band. Have you sensed any little feeling when you have eaten a few mouthfuls that makes you think that you might have had enough? Doesn't matter if you override the feeling because that's part of the learning process, but just wondered if you have felt anything. Solo does a little "sigh" when her body has had enough and I just get a voice that says to me "your done".

With regards to palo/wheat free.........I don't eat wheat a lot of the time as it gives me IBS and I don't eat processed food and tend to eat more of a palo approach too.