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Paul McKenna's 'I Can Make You Thin' Thread #15...The New Beginning!

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Solo · 05/05/2014 11:53

Welcome to thread #15 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded friendly support system are:

  1. Eat what you WANT
  2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
  3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
  4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

HELPFUL TIPS!
Lots of chewing; at least 20 chews per mouthful.

Ask yourself "am I really hungry?" Listen for your 'full signal' and leave at least a mouthful on your plate at every meal. Eat your favourite thing from your plate first so that if you get to the full signal, but have your favourite food still sitting there, you aren't going to 'make room' for it because you love it, it will have already gone.

Admire something about yourself every day in the mirror.
Try to move more; dance around the living room or walk to school...use the stairs...small things, but good things!

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. After all, eating a meal is not a competition, it's about enjoying what you are putting into your mouth and body, but not feeling bloated and uncomfortable (or guilty) afterwards!
Many people have issues around food. Many of us have been brought up by the 'clear your plate' parents of yesteryear which leave us feeling guilty if we leave even the smallest morsel of food, but we are working through this guilt or any other hang up we may have, and we are learning to leave a bit on the plate; return to it another time if we really want to or even feed it to the dog or the bin!
So!! forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!! Let's get lighter for those summer outfits!!

The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

You don't have to buy the book and CD, but we have found that they do help and somehow they keep you on track, so it would probably be a good investment and will cost you far less than a couple of trips to WW or SW meetings, so do consider having them in your life.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry and that is a great way to feel when you are dropping dress sizes at the same time!!! so come on in and start living your new life today and make 2014 your year to drop a dress size or several...if we can get those lbs off a few at a time, just think how we could look and feel for the sunny summer time!!!
Some of our thread members are also doing PMK's Virtual Gastric Band and although this thread is not about this avenue, we will still be supportive of our friends partaking of this, so don't think we won't be there for you. I'm pretty sure that the Golden Rules will be just as helpful in this process as the I Can Make You Thin process Smile so get stuck in Smile

Here is a link to From Emotional Eating which may give some insight into why we do this and help us beat it.

Ps. Could we all try to sign in at least every few days so that someone is there? We have established that it's no fun talking to ourselves and also that if there is a new joiner, it's good to say 'hello and welcome' to them too.

Ok! Let's Focus and See Ourselves wearing that body we desire! learning to love ourselves is an important daily step, so let's become LOSERS in order to be WINNERS!!! :)

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cashmiriana · 13/09/2014 23:09

Have had a bit of a trying day with the eating. I know I wasn't hungry but felt the need to eat. So I ended up taking myself up to bed, listened to 2 cd's, had a nap, read a book, and generally checked out of family life's demands for a couple of hours.

Tomorrow will be more of a challenge - I am doing the food for a birthday party and I know the temptation to eat as I go along will be there, out of habit. Does anyone have any tips? I don't get cravings for individual foods so the craving buster doesn't seem that appropriate. (on the plus side, DC made the cakes for the party today, offered me one, I took one mouthful, said "Lovely" and handed it back. Normally I would have eaten at last 3 cakes!)

Oh and I've ordered the gastric band book and cd. I am bloody determined to make this work!

gunsandbanjos · 14/09/2014 11:13

Morning, been a bit crap this week! Too busy at work plus drinking on Friday = lack of concentration while eating.

I'm picking myself up and dusting myself off though!

How's everyone else doing?

Solo · 14/09/2014 14:06

Hello. Sorry, I have been a bit preoccupied with other things. How are you all?
Cash if not too late, try the Tapping to stop the picking.

I have not had a great week and I suspect my weight is not what I want it to be.

Onwards and Offwards!!!

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Steala · 15/09/2014 13:04

Thanks for a great thread and great positivity. Can I ask a question about how people handle dessert (eg when eating out or if someone has cooked something special for it)? I can't hand on heart say I am hungry after the main course particularly if I have left food on my plate but if I live a life with no more dessert, this is not the woe for me! Do people eat deliberately less for main? And then eat dessert until full?

Solo · 15/09/2014 23:39

Hi Steala :) Glad you are finding the thread good; that is what we hope for ~ positivity.

If you know that you want to eat dessert, then yes, eat less on the main; leaving food so that you are still hungry. You should find that you will eat very little main course ~ probably just a few mouthfuls, so why not just order a side dish or even a starter? The final possibility would be to ask for a doggy bag for your dessert!! :)

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Iamnotanugget · 16/09/2014 21:46

Will you have me back? I was doing really well and I honestly thought I'd cracked this healthy eating etc but then the summer holidays came and I've been mind fully overeating. I knew I didn't need it and quite often wasn't truly enjoying it so I'm not sure why I persevered but I did and I've regained 7lbs Sad.

I do know what I should be doing though so I've re read book and listened to the cd and eaten far less today. I really need your help! I read through the last few pages now.

MillyDots · 17/09/2014 00:20

Your back on the right track then Iamnotanugget. Don't worry about the summer blip. Just begin again and keep coming on the thread for support. Smile Its funny how we can keep eating even when we know that we don't need it and we are not hungry. It just doesn't taste as good does it.
Maybe you have eaten more over summer because it was more stressful having the kids there every day and needing to keep them occupied leaves very little time to concentrate on "you".

Solo · 17/09/2014 00:43

:)

Went to the hospital today about my elevated liver enzymes. Apparently I have a BMI of 30. Doc said I have to lose weight. Doc said I have to go on a low fat diet and I'm not pleased!
I don't think I eat loads of fat anyway tbh. I don't fry foods because I hate the smell of it. I cook with Olive oil and I use Bertolli spread. My downfall is sunday dinner, but even the roasties, sweet potatoes and roast parsnips are cooked in rapeseed oil. My downfall is probably cake and bread products, but I really don't think I over do those that often.
How can I do it?

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MillyDots · 17/09/2014 07:31

Hi Solo. Sorry, not a nice day for you. BMI of 30 is overweight yes but not horribly so. I'm the same weight as you and we are tall but were not THAT bad. I wouldn't worry too much about him telling you to lose weight by a low fat diet . He is saying low fat as it is what the government still recommends as the best eating Pyramid. Losing weight, no matter how it's achieved, will still lower your BMI. Look, I have been tossing and turning wondering how I can bloody get this weight to shift. Do you want to do this hardcore , PM I mean. Im with you if you want and we can weigh in and everything. This way works as you know. What do you think. If I'm talking rubbish just say Blush

Solo · 17/09/2014 13:07

Hi Milly :) To be honest, I don't want to be worrying about what I'm eating; I mean, as you say, if I'm losing the weight, what difference does it make how I'm doing it? However! what the Doc was sayingI think is that I've possibly got the start of this...

Non-alcoholic steatohepatitis

Non-alcoholic steatohepatitis (NASH) is a severe liver condition that can lead to cirrhosis. As with alcohol-related liver disease, the early stage of NASH is the build-up of excess fat in the liver. This fat is associated with inflammation and scarring, which could lead to cirrhosis.
NASH can develop in people who are obese, have diabetes, have high levels of fat in the blood (high cholesterol) and high blood pressure. Most people with NASH feel well and aren't aware they have a problem until cirrhosis occurs and liver function is affected.

I don't have diabetes or high cholesterol or high BP, so it can only be my weight :(

So I'm wondering if it is to reduce the fat in my liver and I should have asked, but he did specifically say low fat diet...

I guess I could low fat it, but still follow PM's rules etc. And as you know, I'm happy to weigh in and gee you along and you me!

And I hope all that makes sense!!

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MillyDots · 17/09/2014 14:08

Ok. Just reading about it and it says that only a few people go on to fully develop stage 2 Non alcoholic steatohepatisis. Hopefully that is you. It says that one of the symptoms is weight loss? Well you missed that one then. (hope a weak smile is ok here).
Gosh, wonder what would happen to someone who did low carb?

MillyDots · 17/09/2014 14:11

Its interesting that they recommend low carb being better for fatty liver disease. That's the thing though. Old school of thought is that low fat/low cal is best for everything but there is this persistant school of thought for the last 10 years (and growing) that low carb and eating good fats is better for you. What I just read is that too many carbs can hinder and cause fatty liver.

mmmmmmm.......difficult one.

Solo · 17/09/2014 14:36

Milly can you link me to where you got that info please?

About 13 years ago, I followed the Atkins diet for a short while. Was having a bad time with the ME and being unable to exercise (that's something else he wants me to do!), so I did the AD and it worked for half a stone and brought my energy levels up...for two weeks!

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MillyDots · 17/09/2014 15:41

Of course
www.drbriffa.com/2010/06/23/fructose-and-trans-fatty-acids-implicated-in-%e2%80%98fatty-liver%e2%80%99-and-liver-damage/

www.livestrong.com/article/440518-the-best-diets-for-insulin-resistance-nash/

insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome seem to feature largely when reading about your condition and it seems to affect us as we get older. It is a pre diabetic condition and makes losing weight difficult.The insulin resistance way of eating seems to be a good one as it I not too low carb and still allows for good quality carbs.

Don't know if this is any help to you Solo but you mentioned diabetes in your post. Its apparently important to lose weight slowly with this as well. What do you think?

MillyDots · 17/09/2014 15:48

I have been reading about insulin resistance a lot lately and got the book on it.

Solo · 17/09/2014 23:08

Thank you.

I am not diabetic; I was checked for that.

I will have a look at the links and report back...probably tomorrow.

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MillyDots · 17/09/2014 23:10

I think you can still do PM and just choose a bit differently.

Solo · 17/09/2014 23:48

Yes, that's what I thought too.

Tonight, I once again put my cottage pie into a bowl. Was still a bit hungry so I had more, but I ignored the sigh and finished it. It was very nice if I do say so myself.

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MillyDots · 18/09/2014 07:57

Re. Insulin resistance seems to be a pre pre type diabetes state that makes it harder for the body to shift weight.

MillyDots · 18/09/2014 07:58

Glad you enjoyed your cottage pie but listen to that sigh more, it's trying to tell you something Grin

Solo · 19/09/2014 00:13

Made a beef hob top 'casserole' tonight with mash. Delicious and just one bowlful too!

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mrsmilesmatheson · 20/09/2014 12:28

Solo sorry to hear you've had a rough time, just try to keep smiling and listening to your body.

Fine words from me ... it's all gone a bit wrong the last couple of weeks. I know it's the being back at work thing. I don't dare weigh myself as I feel I might have put on. Probably have, not might! I am determined to do this though. It doesn't help that at work I have maybe 10 minutes to eat lunch and I 'm often trying to mark at the same time too.

My clothes still feel looser and last week was time of the month and while i felt a bit bloated, it wasn't as bad a usual. Think it probably played a part in some naughty nibbling though.

We had pizza last night and I ended up over doing it and feeling sicky full before bed. Not nice.

Have made some lovely flapjacks though with apricots in and that was breakfast this morning at about 10am.

Need to read the book again I think and start listening religiously and doing the havening on my days off.

Milllie · 20/09/2014 15:02

Your casserole sounds yummy Solo How you feeling about it all now?

Mrs good that your clothes are loser. Much better indicator than anything the scales can tell you Smile

Solo · 23/09/2014 13:49

I'm not sure how I feel about any of it Millie Confused. I got a letter saying it is likely to be Non Alcohol Fatty Liver Disease and that weight loss will likely help. So I promptly eat a large box of M&S Belgian chocolates! anyway! they've gone! so I can now start afresh.

The casserole was indeed yummy btw! :)

I need to contemplate my health and future.

Want a laugh?! My Mum, bless her the other day says to me "If you go to your Dr's, he can get you into the WW for so many weeks free!" Hmm. Of course I gave my usual answer of never ever going to WW or on any kind of diet other than with Paul McKenna holding my hand. Why oh why would I want to humiliate myself and deprive myself of proper enjoyable food?!!
So, I think I'm back! I may very well eat lots of jacket spuds and baked beans which I love! and are low fat (because of the advice I have been given), but if I want normal, then I'll blooming well eat normal!!!

How are you Millie and everyone else? :)

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Milllie · 23/09/2014 20:32

Good for you Solo. Whats the point in WW anyway or any other diet. You may.........MAY lose weight but as you wont want to live like that forever, you would most likely gain weight again which would only cause you problems again, (most likely). So really PM is the only sustainable way to lose weight and keep it off. The only thing you have to do now is really do your best to get back into it just like you did in the very beginning when you did it harcore and lost weight. Im with you all the way.
I look at clothes and know that if I could just lose a stone they would look great.
I have started going to my gym every day now doing sitting down weights and uphill walking on treadmill and exercise bike.