The Paul McKenna Thread Number 13 ~ the Good Luck Number! A Simple Title, for Simple Weight Loss and All amongst Friends!!

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Welcome to thread 13 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded friendly support system are:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. After all, eating a meal is not a competition, it's about enjoying what you are putting into your mouth, but not feeling bloated and uncomfortable (or guilty) afterwards!
Many people have issues around food. Many of us have been brought up by the 'clear your plate' parents of yesteryear which leave us feeling guilty if we leave even the smallest morsel of food, but we are working through this guilt or any other hang up we may have, and we are learning to leave a bit on the plate; return to it another time if we really want to or even feed it to the dog or the bin!
So!! forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!! Let's get lighter for those Christmas outfits!!

The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

You don't have to buy the book and CD, but we have found that they do help and somehow they keep you on track, so it would probably be a good investment and will cost you far less than a couple of trips to WW or SW meetings, so do consider having them in your life.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry and that is a great way to feel when you are dropping dress sizes at the same time!!! so come on in and start living your new life today and make 2013 your year to drop a dress size or several...if we can get those lbs off a few at a time, just think how we could look and feel for Christmas and The New Year!!!
Some of our thread members are also doing PMK's Virtual Gastric Band and although this thread is not about this avenue, we will still be supportive of our friends partaking of this, so don't think we wont be there for you. I'm pretty sure that the Golden Rules will be just as helpful in this process as the I Can Make You Thin process :) so get stuck in :)

Yes! do join us Crocodile :) just don't get too close or you might catch my cough and cold!!

he he!!! Now that's a name solo

Well not doing good. Emotional eating has taken over. I weighed myself today, and I have gained a stone since starting this. Keep thinking of giving this up, and going back to alternative fasting. Maybe I need to do diets for the rest of my life to be a normal weight. My skin has erupted badly, I've no energy as nd I just seem to be getting fatter

Jellybean don't give up! I too have gained weight. I originally lost 2st, but have gained back a stone since I was assaulted in August; it's comfort eating and not moving enough that's doing it to me atm, but I am determined to get back to it and lose the weight I want to lose. Stay here with us and we'll do it together. I know I don't contribute much here, but I've a lot on my plate (no pun intended) right now, but will try to be here more. Fasting cannot be a good thing imo.

and jellybean.

My bugbear is mindless eating. I wonder if reading in the bedroom, further from the kitchen, would help.

Hi Doc

I think that would help loads if you read away from the kitchen.

I'm all over the place at the most with what to do. I have realised that I do comfort eat to feel better, and don't like having to wait until I'm hungry to eat.

So I've got real problems with following this woe.

This morning I had two toast and marmalade at 10.30, but couldn't sit to eat it in peace as nobody leaves me alone at home for even a second so that I can concentrate on my food

hello everyone, i've been really busy for a few weeks & it looks like the thread's really been moving!

sniff goodbye pp

for those of you still here, yes there will be up & down times where you fall off the wagon but it's fine it's just part of the process. everytime you do it it helps reinforce why you don't want to do it again, but i've found i still do periodically as if just to remind myself how shitty overeating feels!

i've had my first weekend away from the kids in 10 years, visiting my best mate from uni. she has no kids & it's been a lovely break more than anything getting back in touch with not thinking about food until i'm actually starting to get hungry, because it's a change from the usual routine of having to feed the weans & it making me think about food. when i arrived @2.30pm, we drank herbal tea & chatted & forgot about dinner until 8pm!! !! lovely. really enjoyed it when our takeaway arrived

my flight's nearly boarding so byeee for now but don't lose hope! we'll get there when we get there & learn stuff along the way...

ps. jelly have you been doing the havening? it works. with practice you'll catch yourself going to comfort eat sooner & avert it

Hi all, was on here a couple of threads back but now re-joining as need a big kick up the arse! Love PM and this woe and determined to make it a natural part of my life. Not really interested in losing weight per se (I'm a terrible self- sabotager and as soon as I stand on the scales and discover weight loss tend to go on a big binge, triggered mainly, I think, by the fact that last time I was properly slim I was also in a really bad place in my life, so think my subconscious equates weight loss with unhappiness!). But main motivation is really just to be in control around food, to see food as fuel not the solution to all life's problems and to set a good example to the kiddios especially DD.

jellybean I am a complete and utter emotional eater too, so I know exactly where you're coming from. Here are some alternatives that I do when I feel a binge coming on

1. Distract myself on Pinterest, I can literally spend hours on there!
2. Grab the kids and get outside
3. Keep buying all the lush food that you love but on the front of the cupboards/fridge have an inspirational picture or quote or something that will make you think twice about stuffing your face.
4. Tap, tap and tap some more!

Oh and another thing, if you have the ICMYT app there's a panic button on there with a minute long trance thingy which helps calm you down and get you back in control. I use this a lot! Especially when the kids (4 and 1.9) are driving me nuts, I shut myself in the utility room (handle too high for them to reach, therefore only place I'm guaranteed privacy!) and listen to that figuring there's only so much damage they can do in a minute and in any case I'll be that chilled out afterwards I won't even mind!

Thanks Very berry and No good.

I think the answer is for me to do the tapping and the panic button like you said. I'm going to use the ensuite toilet as my place of sanctuary to do it when needed.

has anyone actually successfully lost weight on this? Did they have a gain like me before they lost? And if so? What helped them? And how long did it take to lose weight?

I suppose I need to hear some success stories for the extra motivation I need.

I have lost weight on this, most recently all my baby weight plus around a stone (try not to weigh myself so can't be exact I'm afraid) I have been smaller than this as well from following this woe but it's still not fully ingrained into my psyche hence why I've re-joined this thread. The way I look at it is I started my bad relationship with food (especially emotional eating) when I was 12/13 so I've had over 20 years of bad eating habits, I can't expect those to just disappear overnight no matter how amazing this woe is. It's going to take time, but I figure I'm worth it and just take one day at a time and if I mess up well I can always start again tomorrow. Hope that helps

i have lost body fat % rather than weight so far, like milly says it's taken me about six months to get out of the diet mindset. (including the wobble where actually just considering the 5:2 fasting diet made me start bingeing again) though my weight is yet to come down i've lost a little girth, so i'm thinking i've lost fat & gained muscle. muscle weighs three times as much as fat for the same volume, 1lb fat = three times the size of 1lb muscle, if you can picture that... e.g 1lb fat looks like ()()() but 1lb muscle looks like () so 1b fat lost & 1lb muscle gained will leave you the same weight but ()() thinner IYSWIM?! so thats why the scales don't tell the whole story & probably why PM discourages them... i've heard sooo man times of massive initial diet losses being attributed to water loss so weight seems never to be the full picture.

i gained weight before i lost & stabilised & the havening helped me massively, & just focussing on the four rules @ lunch & dinner helped massively.(breakfast too rushed & sleep too precious to cut short!!)

just a thought: i've started doing more mindfulness practice because it's right for me to do it now, & i found that even when i did it in a noisy surround (on my bus home) it worked more than i could have thought possible (all the way through i was thinking "ooh i've been interrupted, ooh it's too noisy, this won't do any good", ...but after 10 mins i felt sooo much better)... so maybe we don't need to be so precious about getting a quiet place to do it... even in adverse circumstance it has some benefit. so before you think "oh it's too noisy/hectic/interrupted by small people", maybe it'd be worth giving it a go??!!! just try it!

p.s. witty i'm totally with you on last time i was thin i was totally in a bad place, which i why i'm just happy to stabilise weight for now, & i'm quite sure loss will follow when i'm ready...

Jellybean I'm not on this thread any more I'm lurking because I have reached the target I sort of set myself (my vanity size 10 trousers are too big now [grin) but to answer your question yes I've lost nearly 3 stone on P.M. still maintaining too. BUT i do follow a very healthy way of eating with it .

Thank you all for the motivation to continue. I don't mind gaining and stabilising if I know I will eventually lose weight. Maybe this is the initial outcome of years of dieting. Just think I need to continue and practice mindfujl eating, do the tapping technique, and not keep eating so much rubbish.

PS. It'd be great if most of this weight I've gained is muscle rather than fast. Will use tape measure instead of scales.

Jelly if you're following the rules 100% you will definitely lose weight. Just don't beat yourself up and accept it may take time, but just remember that you deserve this

Thought for the day:

Do not reward yourself with food, you're not a dog.

Hi pp thought you had decided to leave us?

Jelly you mentioned going back to the 5:2. If that works well for you then why did you come to PM if I can ask? If going from one diet to another diet hasn't yet made you thin then why would you think yet trying a diet again will work this time. They just make you fatter.
With regard to gaining a stone, I would say that you have not yet managed to successfully do the "mindful eating" and are still overeating.

It does take time, it really does but gaining a stone does mean that somewhere you are overeating. This is a brilliant way to stop emotional eating in my opinion. I don't seem to be able to overeat anymore. I think its the CD. Whenever I think that I would fancy something, but im not hungry, its just like a switch comes on and my tummy says no.
I don't even listen to the CD daily anymore.
So ......you could go back to the 5:2 and starve your body and mess with your mind again or you can reboot and start again with this woe.
Its not magic, its learning how to eat normally. Its learning to not eat food as a crutch but putting it back in its rightful place. PM does a cd about emotional eating too. Have you listened to that?

Well PP I think you should come back. I'm going to need your help now and again, as you've been there and been successful.

Think you could help me and lots of other newbies with tips and advice at keeping at the PM. ( smile)

Jelly can I ask.....are you in any way still trying to exert control over what foods you buy? Or are you cutting out food groups and denying yourself things? Sometimes when you are still in a type of diet mode then you still can be messing with your mind. I buy any food that I desire and this to me is the only way to eventually not care less and to see all food as just food.
I eat loads of fruit and veg, nuts, fish and chicken because I like them. In fact I love fruit and veg but I also make sure I always buy something if I fancy it.

PP yes I would be lovely to have her back on the thread but I personally don't want to be told all the time that The Blood Group Diet and the Hay Diet are the healthiest ways to eat and that if the rest of us ate that way that we too would be as healthy as she is. Im sorry but it really puts me off this way of eating. Im trying hard to do Paul McKenna.