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New Year Low Carb Bootcamp interim thread!

848 replies

MrsHerculePoirot · 03/01/2013 17:29

To continue chatting and preparing for the official start on 7th.

Rules and veg info can be found on the tabs on the old spreadsheet here.

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Bessie123 · 06/01/2013 00:29

I am trying to believe you, honestly. But there is no way an innocent little jar of quality streets is evil.

I'm just attention seeking now, I'm going to stop. See you for another low carb day tomorrow Grin

Bessie123 · 06/01/2013 00:31

So timidviper once you're maintaining the weight you can have puddings?

MissNJE · 06/01/2013 01:32

I am going to the shops tomorrow and will buy everything I need for the start at the 7th. I am looking forward to it and I can't wait to get rid of all the extra lbs I don't need.

timidviper · 06/01/2013 01:33

Hopefully, by the time we reach maintenance, we'll have lost the cravings for sweet things so we'll be able to enjoy them in moderation the way thin people do. I'll let you know if and when I get there but I have stones to go yet!

I only started low-carbing on the last bootcamp in October and have been surprised at the effects so far. (I work in healthcare and am generally very cynical about weight loss claims). I lost 2st 4lb over less than 10 weeks but have put around 7lb back on in the 3-4 weeks since I stopped, which I don't think is bad as I have over-indulged. They key difference for me is that I know that weight will be gone in a couple of weeks and I can sustain this way of eating, it gets easy once you are on a roll with it.

There are some others on these threads who have lost huge amounts of weight and are maintaining it or still losing so it does work.

OTTMummA · 06/01/2013 01:38

Just watched that youtube video LaVidaLoCarb and now can't sleep through shock and revelation! Shock

Sugar is like crack, seriously!

I can't believe that we have all been spoon fed low fat diets all this time with no actual scientific studies proving this to be correct.
Not ONE study that supports it.

frenchfries22 · 06/01/2013 03:45

my apologies if this is tmi but i seem to have developed a bad cash of thrush overnight. i finished a course of anti biotics a week ago am hoping is linked to that and not this new woe. anyone else have any experience with this previously? thanks!

buildingmycorestrength · 06/01/2013 03:50

Hi, am hoping to eat clean to lose some weight. marking place for recipie ideas!

Lifeisontheup · 06/01/2013 04:33

Added my weight to the preadsheet Thanks Willie.
Finding the water really hard at work as we never know when we have access to loos. Still managed a 1.5l bottle yesterday.

KoKoBear · 06/01/2013 06:35

I just had to update my weight on the spreadsheet as I added my weight from weds when I started lo carbing. Having just weighed myself and finding I'm 6lbs down I felt as if I was cheating the spreadsheet. I hadn't even been that strict! Bring on bootcamp!

BlackAffronted · 06/01/2013 07:38

I havent entered my weight on the spreadsheet, far too embarassed! Blush Im doing a countdown from 100 instead though (in case anyone looking at the spreadsheet thinks I weight 100 lbs!!)

RatherBeOnThePiste · 06/01/2013 07:50

Can't find the spreadsheet, that's how rubbish I am

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 06/01/2013 08:01

Ouch, frenchfries! You have all my sympathy. Some years ago now, I had a really bad case of candida overgrowth, which meant I was getting thrush every month.

It will almost certainly be related to the antibiotics. Whilst they are great at killing the bacteria that would have been causing what ever medical condition you were treating, unfortunately they also kill of all the good bacteria in your gut, which allows the candida (which is present in all of us) to grow.

A low carb diet is actually really good for thrush, as you are taking the sugar out of your system; sugar is one of the things that candida feeds on.

Get hold of a good probiotic - not Yakult or Actimel, but a tablet form. It should be found in a fridge and not on the shelf, in a good health food shop.

Buy a Diflucan capsule from the chemist - Boots/Tesco/Sainsbury's own will be much cheaper than the branded version, which is around £12 - and also some Canestan cream (to apply topically) and a Canestan pessary. Then you should be sorted.

koKoBear brilliant!

Bessie yes, when you are in maintenance you will be able to eat puddings. But, in moderation. However, it does mean that when you have reached your target weight, you will be able to eat pretty much what you want, as long as you don't just return to a high carb diet all the time, at every meal. Carbs are always going to provoke an insulin response by the body, so it's natural that too many carbs over a longer period will lead to weight gain. But the odd indulgence every now and then should not do too much harm.

In this regard, low carbing is like any other diet. If, once you reach your desired weight, you just go back to eating like youu were before, then you will p ut the weight back on. Eating like that was what caused you to put the weight on in the first place, after all.

Once you are ketogenically adapted, i.e. you are burning fat for fuel rather than carbs, (which takes about 2 weeks to achieve) you will have used up the glycogen that is stored in your muscles and liver - this is the energy from carbs that your body stores, that it can't use up immediately. From everything I have read, I believe that this glycogen weighs around 3-5lbs. This is why, if you have a big carb 'blow-out' you are likely to gain around this amount of weight.

It's also, I think, why you lose the weight quickly when you go back to low carbing, because the body uses the glycogen stores for energy pretty quickly.

If you put more than 5lbs on, it's more likely that your body has started laying down fat again.

FallingOver · 06/01/2013 08:15

Thanks everyone for your picnic suggestions!

I made a courgette, mushroom and halloumi frittata which I will slice up, and also have a chunk of last night's pistachio and zatar crusted tuna steak (yum!) to take with me, along with a little tub of yoghurt.

Yesterday I bought some light soya milk for the first time, as I wa missing my regular old tea too much. Surprisingly tasty!

EwanHoozami · 06/01/2013 08:22

You are OUTTA HERE from tomorrow, matey.

TryBreatheTwinkleFly welcome - your lunch and dinner sound great (maybe be a wee bit careful with the feta / boursin for the first couple of weeks though) What herbs did you use with the celeriac chips?

LaVidaLoCarb · 06/01/2013 08:37

OTTmumA you're right about the video. My dad had a heart attack last year and I just couldn't believe how bad the nutritional advice the hospital gave him afterwards was. I'm pretty evangelical about this woe now but it's amazing how entrenched the old low fat high carb dogma is. Time for a paradigm shift!

coldethyl · 06/01/2013 08:47

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GuyMartinsSideburns · 06/01/2013 08:59

Aw coldethyl I feel your pain, Ive got a jar of chilli jam in the fridge and that is so nice in a bacon sandwich Im hassling dh to eat it, and forcing the mince pies down the kids Grin

Ive just had bacon and eggs and a coffee, I'll keep on the water today as normal. Roast chicken today so I'll have meat and leafy veg and sprouts (stopped eating potatoes ages ago) but Ive just realised I prob cant have gravy?? REALLY?

Im a bit concerned though - we dont eat a great deal of meat in this house really and Im concerned about the cost - we've just done a big shop and its mostly fruit and veg and things we'd ran out of like rice, coffee etc. The only meat that was bought was naice ham for the kids packed lunches, a chicken for today, and some drumsticks that Ive no idea what dh is going to do with and even this came to a fair amount. Plus I know in the first couple of weeks of this at least you want to go for food that isnt processed so much, and I want to know how to do this on a shoestring? Im worried I'll balls up Sad

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EwanHoozami · 06/01/2013 09:30

Guy I'm with you on the shoestring. I generally try to remember that yep, it's a bit more expensive to buy pure meat but it's an investment in my family's health blah-de-blah.

However, when I'm skint I'm skint! So... firstly there's lots of lovely veggie low-carb recipes, see if your library has Rose Elliot's Low Carb Vegetarian and I figure that it's not the absolute end of to world to eat cheaper, more processed meals like corned beef hash with swede or tinned sardine fishcakes made with frozen cauliflower.

Lots of supermarkets seem to have deals on meats at the mo if you bulk-buy and Lidl / Aldi are great for good value meat.

Lots of people cook cheaper, fattier cuts in the slow cooker. Great for this WOE.

Also, your roast chicken could stretch to a few meals, maybe? Can you get a soup / salad out of the leftovers?

MulledwineGless · 06/01/2013 09:34

Guy- have you got a Lidl/aldi nearby as the meat there has been good. Planning is the key. Ewan does lovely meals and I know she is on a budget. There is no reason why you can't do veggie meals too - there are loads on the recipe finder. Or go on some of the low carb blogs

Ewan are you there

Water - the best way I have found to get water down me is to drink from a sports top bottle. I get a 750ml then refill it 3 times so I know I'm drinkin enough. There is something scientific somewhere that psychologically helps to drink from sports bottle to consume quantitiesof water

skips over naan bread, cava and other shite consumed last night but points out have been awake since 4.45 with bad stomach. Totally not worth it

MulledwineGless · 06/01/2013 09:34

Ooh x posts waves to Ewan

GrownupGoth · 06/01/2013 09:36

Hi, do you mind if I join? I'm starting low carbing again tomorrow after spectacularly falling off the wagon over Christmas. Need to get back into it. (why, why, why do I do it?)

Shopping today to prepare Smile

Is lacto free milk ok on the bootcamp?

TryBreatheTwinkleFly · 06/01/2013 09:37

EwanHouzami thanks for the feedback re food yesterday! It's good you mentioned the boursin/feta as I was in fact getting quite piggy with the black pepper boursin yesterdsay - if there's a way to cheat (and balls up Xmas Wink ) I'll find it, so I will watch the cheese intake for the next two weeks.

I drank wine last night too, but this is all in preparation for the big start tomorrow! Am officially dry now and had Greek yog and flax seed for breakfast.

Is it wishful thinking or do I remember Biwi saying we could have wine at the weekend if we really want to Blush?

LucyVFood · 06/01/2013 09:46

Everyone sounds so positive, it's lovely :) Loads of gorgeous sounding meal suggestions too.

I know this sounds incredibly negative but my new scales arrived today and I weight about two stone more than I thought I did. Haven't weighted myself in forever, obviously. So I feel really sad :(

I'm not stopping, just feeling down, like there's just no end. It's too big a job.

cathyandclaire · 06/01/2013 09:46

Hi grownup!
I think that the less milk the better on Bootcamp, use a little cream if you can....but I just can't do without my coffee with milk so I swapped to lacto free and still lost weight, it tastes quite rich so I find I need much less my coffee which is a bonus too :)