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BIWI's Bootcamp - Week 3 Weigh In - New Starters Welcome!

413 replies

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 29/04/2012 17:52

So our two weeks of Bootcamp seem to have gone well, with some spectacular losses. Between us I think we have lost enough to make 3 or 4 new MNetters!

It's up to you now how you want to proceed. If you have a lot of weight to lose, or you like the strictness of it, you can carry on with Bootcamp. New joiners should start with Bootcamp anyway.

If you are nearly at your target, or you were finding Bootcamp a bit too restrictive, then you can move to Bootcamp Light - or you could do a hybrid of the two, which is what I am doing - Bootcamp Monday to Thursday and Bootcamp Light Friday to Sunday (which means that you can include alcohol at the weekend!)

As a reminder, or for those who are new, these are the Bootcamp rules:

1.Eat three, proper meals a day
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food, and focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Maximise your fat intake.
Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food ? this is where your carbs should come from.
But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (see below). You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Minimal dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but only in small amounts.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol

8.No fruit

9.No nuts/seeds

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

And this is the allowed list of veg:

Don?t eat any veg unless it?s on this list, and try and focus on eating those that are under 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Carrots2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

OP posts:
RadioSilence · 07/05/2012 09:48

No loss for me- 10st 2 this morning having been 10st 1 yesterday. I know I have not put on a pound of fat in 24 hours so am not despondent and will just keep doing what I have been doing.

If it takes me a month to lose a pound I can live with that. This is the way I eat for life now, not just a quick fix where I lose it fast and put it all back on again faster (but sorry KeepOrf for buggering up your weight loss spreadsheet with a gain)

LackaDAILYcarb · 07/05/2012 09:50

12st 7 this morning. I've either hit the wk3-5 wall or the copious amounts of red wine and 85% chocolate (how bonkers sweet did that taste?) I consumed over the weekend have stalled me a bit. I'm cool with that though; I chose to eat the chocolate and drink the wine, no-one forced me!

I also didn't drink enough water. I'm really struggling with it, especially where my dodgy pelvic floor is concerned Blush. Will try harder.

I'm eating delicious food and doing interesting things with veg rather than just steaming them all the time so the woe is working for me.

WillieWaggledagger · 07/05/2012 09:51

well done to everyone

2lbs down for me which is nice, though I'm not aiming for a loss any more

BIWItheBold · 07/05/2012 10:00

RadioSilence - 'keep on keeping on' has to be the mantra on this WOE, definitely!

And weeks 3, 4 and 5 are often difficult - so no loss/some gain is to be expected, as your body adjusts to what you're doing to it!

In other news, one of the pairs of size 10 trousers that I bought at the beginning of April is now too big! Thankfully I hadn't actually worn them, so I was able to take them back. Take that, scales ...

CobOnTheCorn · 07/05/2012 10:01

Morning, I'm 10st 2lb so I've lost 3lbs which I'm v happy with. Onwards and downwards!

RadioSilence · 07/05/2012 10:15

BIWI I dream of being in a size 10! Those moments of triumph are known as "Non scale victories" because they let you know that even though the scales are not moving you are definitely getting thinner.

Doing this with support has made all the difference though. If you had not told us all about no losses or even gains being common in weeks 3-5 I would have thought it was all pointless and gone back to carbs for comfort.

MrsNouveauRichards · 07/05/2012 10:17

Stayed the same here, not surprising really, just glad I haven't gained!

BIWItheBold · 07/05/2012 10:18

That's good to hear!

It is an odd fact that it's so easy, at the first sign of 'failure' to make that failure even more inevitable by then doing the very thing that we know will make us put weight (back) on.

BIWItheBold · 07/05/2012 10:20

In terms of my own weight 'gain':

  • keeping a daily spreadsheet of my weight over the last three months, since I started, means that I now know this a pattern for me. Sudden drop at the scales, to a level that makes me think 'WTF?!', followed by an immediate bounce back up by 3,4 or even 5 lbs, gradually reducing over the next week to 10 days to the lower level.
  • I ate more nuts, and also Atkins Daybreak bars (which are very yummy but unfortunately come in boxes of 4!) last week - and I'm now convinced that these do not reciprocate my love for them.
BIWItheBold · 07/05/2012 10:21

... and I have to allow myself to believe that my hard work at the gym will mean that I am building muscle, therefore seeing numbers go down on the scales will be even harder.

Last week, as well as 2 personal trainer sessions, I also went once on my own and attended 2 Core Stability sessions.

mummyduff · 07/05/2012 10:40

Well done all! Grin

smokinaces · 07/05/2012 10:51

Biwi, with the atkins bars what carb measurement do we use? Only the front says 2.1g carb and the back says 12.2g which is why I haven't had any

smokinaces · 07/05/2012 10:59

I have to admit to my wee treats this bank holiday - a glass of red wine and a square of 85% dark chocolate. Did it saturday and yesterday and planned for tonight. I bought the mini bottles so no chance of more than one glass, and the chocolate I just don't seem to want more than one square.

HowAnnoying · 07/05/2012 11:19

Hello - can I join?

I have never done a low carb diet before, so this is all new to me, I am 154 lbs and have a target of 133 in 10 weeks when I go on holiday. I am 5'9 so I think this is a realistic target.

My breakfast this morning was 2 eggs, mushrooms and tomatoes fried in butter, I have calculated the carbs in this as 7grams, is this low enough for breakfast?

OliviaLMumsnet · 07/05/2012 11:25

Doesn't feel like a real monday today cos of DH being here so i forgot to weigh this morning but think I may have lost a whole pound (!) this
Would prefer a better result but have been a bit lenient on myself and need to be stricter (waits for BIWI to get megaphone out, sergeant major style) to get the kind of results I want.
Have less than six weeks before a big black tie event at which I wanna look a lot slimmer...
On the plus side, DH says that I am looking a bit slimmer all over.

BIWItheBold · 07/05/2012 11:38

HowAnnoying - you are very welcome! The idea of Bootcamp is not to count carbs - but by following the allowed veg list, and focussing on things that are 3g carbs per 100, you should keep your carbs under control.

So your eggs and mushrooms are fine - just keep an eye on how many tomatoes you're eating, as they become very carby very quickly - they are a fruit, remember!

Olivia. You are supposed to be doing Bootcamp. Bootcamp is not supposed to be lenient! [love-telling-off-MN-officialdom face]

Print off those Bootcamp rules and don't deviate from them.

smokinaces - you take the net carbs in the case of Atkins Daybreak bars. But - I would seriously try and avoid them if I were you - if nothing else, based on my own experience. Not only because they are full of artificial stuff, but also because there is some suggestion that the body responds to the sweetness of them as if they were full of sugar. Certainly seems to be the case for me - at one point during the week I was back up at 10.4. Avoid, avoid, avoid!

WheatBelly · 07/05/2012 11:39

Feel a bit of a cheat here. Its's EatenAllTheEasterEggs with my new namechange. can I start again because I am LITERALLY back where I started at 12st 10 Sad. So that's week one lost 6 pounds, week two gained 1 pound and week 3 gained 5 pounds. I have had such unbelievable out of control cravings this past week and have indulged them all so not doing the diet really although set out every morning with good intentions.

So am back and determined. I have 8 weeks before my holiday, have finished reading Wheatbelly which has horrified me and I'm ready to go. I was 10st 5 exactly a year ago after 18 months on a low-carb WOE so I know how to do it. I'll leave it up to you whether you continue me on with my namechange into week 4 or start me off completely at Week 1 under WheatBelly.

BIWItheBold · 07/05/2012 11:42

Whoops - just realised I'm supposed to be starting a new thread for weigh-ins ...

smokinaces · 07/05/2012 11:48

Biwi, bars like atkins are my downfall which is why I have avoided. I was just having a nosey yesterday at bluewater when shopping, at suitable emergency carb low snacks etc. There's not much about if you get stuck is there? Goes to show why planning is so important. I much prefer my one square of lindt over a whole atkins style bar, and that's enough for me nowadays.

Tomorrow will be a big test for me as picnicing at a theme park. Cooking extra chicken tonight to take, cocktail sausages and cheese strings as well as cucumber. Making the kids sandwiches and planning on doing a cheese mim for me.

OliviaLMumsnet · 07/05/2012 12:00

What is WheatBelly please?

BIWItheBold · 07/05/2012 12:02

Wheat Belly Not a book I've read, Olivia

OliviaLMumsnet · 07/05/2012 12:02

back at BIWI. Just cos I can. Grin

BIWItheBold · 07/05/2012 12:04

smokinaces - you're absolutely right about both planning and lack of availability of suitable low carb snacks when you're out and about.

If you're planning a picnic, though, and you're doing the food, it is much easier. As well as your plans, you could also do hard boiled eggs, take individual lettuce leaves (iceberg or little gem are good) to wrap round things like tuna in mayonnaise, or egg mayonnaise or prawn mayonnaise. Cooked prawns with mayo to dip into are good, along with slices of ham/beef/smoked salmon - can also take cream cheese to roll these meats/fish around

Hepsibaaah · 07/05/2012 12:16

Hello all,

My weight has been all over the place this week, went from 135 to 136.4 on thursday, wobbled an awful lot in between then four days later down to 133.8 (HOW??). I'm not sure jumping on the scales every day has been good for my morale.

So - this am, despite a big family meal I'm going to average it out and say I've lost 1lb this week.
Four pounds off my target weight, trudging - very slowly - on.