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BIWI's Bootcamp - Week 3 Weigh In - New Starters Welcome!

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BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 29/04/2012 17:52

So our two weeks of Bootcamp seem to have gone well, with some spectacular losses. Between us I think we have lost enough to make 3 or 4 new MNetters!

It's up to you now how you want to proceed. If you have a lot of weight to lose, or you like the strictness of it, you can carry on with Bootcamp. New joiners should start with Bootcamp anyway.

If you are nearly at your target, or you were finding Bootcamp a bit too restrictive, then you can move to Bootcamp Light - or you could do a hybrid of the two, which is what I am doing - Bootcamp Monday to Thursday and Bootcamp Light Friday to Sunday (which means that you can include alcohol at the weekend!)

As a reminder, or for those who are new, these are the Bootcamp rules:

1.Eat three, proper meals a day
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food, and focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Maximise your fat intake.
Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food ? this is where your carbs should come from.
But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (see below). You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Minimal dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but only in small amounts.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol

8.No fruit

9.No nuts/seeds

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

And this is the allowed list of veg:

Don?t eat any veg unless it?s on this list, and try and focus on eating those that are under 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Carrots2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

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mummyduff · 03/05/2012 10:58

Morning all, super impressed BIWI with your early start at the gym Grin

So I have to confess to 3 glasses of bubbly last night and feel dreadful today because of it, no tolerance anymore Blush

So just had brunch of tomato's, mushrooms, 3 rashers bacon and 2 eggs.

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 03/05/2012 11:09

Welcome, The Eternal Optimist! To answer your questions:

1. What do you do with the family - I am staying with parents atm. Do you just make normal meals and leave out the pasta/rice/bread etc?

I usually just avoid the carb component of the meal. However, sometimes I make them something where that is more difficult - e.g. spaghetti bolognese or chilli. In which case, I sometimes have just a bowl of the meat sauce, with cheese on top. Or I do some finely shredded white cabbage in place of the pasta. The key, especially if you're staying with someone else, is to make sure you have planned ahead and you know there are appropriate options for you in the fridge/freezer/cupboards.

2. What about when you go out for a meal?

Generally, eating out is much easier when you're low carbing - especially compared with low calorie or low fat diets. Obviously, this isn't true of a pasta or pizza restaurant! In the main, though, there are usually plenty of choices for a low carber. The most difficult cuisine is Thai, as sugar is used in most dishes - so personally I would try and avoid Thai restaurants if you can.

Indian restaurants are OK, but you have to be very disciplined - obviously rice and bread are out! Poppadoms are OK-ish (around 18g carbs per poppadom), but you're best trying to avoid them altogether if you can. Try and choose tandoori or tikka dishes (not tikka massala) - and stuff that's dry/not in a sauce - again, there can be added sugar in the sauces. Replace rice with a vegetable side dish - spinach or mushroom or cauliflower bhaji are all good choices. And don't choose a pint of Cobra or Kingfisher to go with your meal!

I find that more and more often, restaurants have their menus online, so you can have a look in advance, to make your choice.

But don't be afraid to ask for something that's different from the menu - or to ask about the ingredients of a meal/sauce - you don't have to tell them why, if it worries you - or you could also say you have some kind of a food intolerance.

3. Is there a kind of starter shopping list, or do you all just make it up as you go along?

Not really - but it is really important on this WOE to plan ahead, so that you know you have got plenty of good low carb choices to hand. Start with the meat/fish component, and then decide what veg you're going to have with it - print out the list of allowed veg to help you make your decision here.

HTH! Smile

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OliviaLMumsnet · 03/05/2012 12:41

I cannot stress enough the importance of planning ahead - I am struggling cos I just jumped on the bandwagon inspired by all the fab stories and dont have the right food in which is making it hard (Have succeeded on this plan before)
Will be better from the weekend and hopefully lose something by then (oh the shame if not)

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 03/05/2012 13:12

We'll all be watching, Olivia ...
Grin

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 03/05/2012 13:54
charlie7 · 03/05/2012 14:09

Back on the scales again this morning- after 2 days I've lost the 3 lbs I had put back on!! Very pleased!
I still don't think I am in ketosis (I was last week and def felt it) but something is obviously working.
Just wanted to ask though, I am finding my running really tough, just no energy at all, I really want to keep running but it's just not enjoyable at the moment. Do you think it's due to low carbs?

DoUntoOtters · 03/05/2012 14:14

That's encouraging, charlie. I haven't dared get on the scales again since I had put on 2lbs, I felt so disappointed. I have been sticking rigidly to the plan for the last four days, so fingers crossed for the next weigh-in.

RatherBeOnThePiste · 03/05/2012 14:14
OliviaLMumsnet · 03/05/2012 14:34

LOL
I am not weighing in until next Tuesday! Don't watch too closely

NB India Knight IPD had lots of vitamins and constipation releif (psyllium or something - twas 5 years ago and brain is shot.)
What are thought on this?

TheEternalOptimist · 03/05/2012 14:41

Thanks, BIWI (it is me, btw - we talked on Twitter yesterday).

Will have to wait till Monday to start, but you lot are very inspiring.

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 03/05/2012 16:52

to TEO

charlie - it can take a while for the body to get used to low carbing, but apparently it will 'work' quite well on a low carb diet once it's used to it, apparently.

Olivia - lots of people have been using various things for constipation - I can't recommend anything personally, as it's never been anything I've suffered from, thankfully.

If you're suffering, drink more water and take some exercise - I've also heard that high strength Vitamin C can help, or a strong coffee. And if in extremis - Thornton's Sugar-free/Diabetic toffee is a powerful laxative!

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Hepsibaaah · 03/05/2012 16:58

Hi all - are we at weekly weigh in now? It's been a very hectic week for me, been at work more hours than I've been home.
yesterday:
B- boiled egg
L- chicken salady thing
No D, too tired to cook, grazed on a few almonds and blueberries, drank 2.5 L

today -
B- bacon and mush fried in butter as was starving
L- worked right through, then felt awful around 3 so ate four chocolates :( forgive me BIWI for I have sinned, felt awful and needed a sugar rush...
D- will be shep pie with celeriac mash and broccoli

Not looking forward to Sunday weigh-in

mummyduff · 03/05/2012 17:53

BIWI I was just wondering if you could share your fix for if you cheat, please, please, please < down on bending knee >
Feeling so guilty about my bubbly binge last night Blush

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 03/05/2012 17:54

Weigh-in not until Sunday/Monday, hepsi

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mummyduff · 03/05/2012 17:56

ooh just made and ate the chilli on the recipe thread, it was scrummy x x

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 03/05/2012 18:56

Thank you! Very glad Grin

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Hepsibaaah · 03/05/2012 19:59
Blush is there a 'fix' for straying from the LC path?
SharonGless · 03/05/2012 20:36

Water water water I bet!

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 03/05/2012 20:58

It depends how bad the stray was!

If it was one little slip up, then yes, it's water, water, water - and be ultra strict for the next few days.

If it was a really serious, full-blown carb blow out - then the fix is much more significant.

It's called the Three Day Experiment (I have no idea why - I got this from my time on the Carblife forum!).

For the next three days you may only eat lean protein. You can have no more than 5g of carbs a day, and you must stick to low fat options. On day four, you can start to eat more carbs, but only very gradually.

It's very hard, and very boring - but you can expect to lose 3-5lbs doing this - which will be the weight that you're likely to have put on with a carb binge.

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heartstart · 03/05/2012 21:11

Hi lost 2.5lbs since Mon - so thanks for review and advice BiWi - Out of interest I have drunk nearly 5.5 l of water today and ketosticks still v dark

Marabou · 03/05/2012 21:16

That's good to know, thanks BIWI!

Not that I'm planning to go on a carb binge though.. Although I must say, after the scales were up 1.5kg yet again today, I almost did Angry!

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 03/05/2012 21:19

Great, heartstart! Keep on with the water, if you can manage it Grin

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Marabou · 03/05/2012 21:20

I really don't know what I'm doing wrong, it seems like my weight fluctuates between 1 and 2 kg throughout the week regardless of how I eat. I really have start not weighing myself everyday!

BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 03/05/2012 21:22

OK, Marabou - list for me, day by day, what you've been eating and drinking, and let's see if we can help.

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SharonGless · 03/05/2012 21:26

Now then bizarrely my period has started again, which is the second time since we started this WOE. I have the mirena and have has virtually no bleeds for months, then 2 in 3 weeks. I have read it can affect you like this and with hormones.

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