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BIWI's Bootcamp - Week 3 Weigh In - New Starters Welcome!

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BIWIWhoMustBeObeyed · 29/04/2012 17:52

So our two weeks of Bootcamp seem to have gone well, with some spectacular losses. Between us I think we have lost enough to make 3 or 4 new MNetters!

It's up to you now how you want to proceed. If you have a lot of weight to lose, or you like the strictness of it, you can carry on with Bootcamp. New joiners should start with Bootcamp anyway.

If you are nearly at your target, or you were finding Bootcamp a bit too restrictive, then you can move to Bootcamp Light - or you could do a hybrid of the two, which is what I am doing - Bootcamp Monday to Thursday and Bootcamp Light Friday to Sunday (which means that you can include alcohol at the weekend!)

As a reminder, or for those who are new, these are the Bootcamp rules:

1.Eat three, proper meals a day
You must eat breakfast. It doesn?t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food, and focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Maximise your fat intake.
Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food ? this is where your carbs should come from.
But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (see below). You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Minimal dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
If you are still drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but only in small amounts.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink

7.No alcohol

8.No fruit

9.No nuts/seeds

10.No sugar or artificial sweeteners

And this is the allowed list of veg:

Don?t eat any veg unless it?s on this list, and try and focus on eating those that are under 3g carbs per 100g:

Veg (raw)Carbs per 100g
Mushrooms0.4
Watercress0.4
Spinach0.8
Celery0.9
Broccoli1.1
Asparagus 1.4
Cucumber1.5
Lettuce1.7
Fennel1.8
Courgettes1.8
Cauliflower1.9
Avocado flesh1.9
Turnip2
Pumpkin2.2
Runner beans2.3
Swede2.3
Celeriac2.3
Bean sprouts2.5
Carrots2.5
Green pepper2.6
Baby sweetcorn2.7
Aubergine2.8
Leeks2.9
Okra3
Tomato3.1
Mangetout3.3
Shallots3.3
Brussels sprouts3.5
French beans4.7
Cabbage5
Yellow pepper5.3
Carrots6
Orange or red pepper6.4
Ginger (peeled)7.2
Butternut squash7.5
Onions7.9

OP posts:
Marabou · 03/05/2012 21:49

Do people think breastfeeding might have something to do with the weight fluctuating? I was just thinking it might have an effect on how much water your body retains.

DS will be 1 year next week and he still mainly has breastmilk and doesn't really eat solids, so I'm still breastfeeding at least 5-6 times a day and sometimes even more..

BIWItheBold · 03/05/2012 21:56

TBH I have absolutely no idea - but if DS is mainly breastfed, then your body will be working hard, presumably, to make milk for him. And he will definitely take priority.

But please - list all your food/drink for the last couple of days or so, and let's see if there's anything obvious we can spot.

Sharon - sorry - I can't help you with that one. Thankfully I appear to be 'through the other side' now!

Marabou · 03/05/2012 22:07

Thanks for your help!

I'm sorry, for the life of me I can't remember exactly what I had Monday and Tuesday, except that I had boiled eggs for breakfast each dayConfused..

However, yesterday was:

B: 3 boiled eggs mashed with butter
L: spaghetti bolognaise sauce (made with beef/pork mince, a small onion, garlic, celery and readymade Homepride tomato-herb pasta sauce that has 8.3g carbs/100g)
S: a celery stick with cheese&onion mayo
D: small feta salad (iceberg lettuce, a little onion, cucumber, tomato, celery and feta)with a splash of olive oil and two small chicken leg pieces baked with skins on

Today was:

B: 3 boiled eggs mashed with butter
L: leftover spaghetti bolognaise sauce (the same as yesterday)
S: a celery stick with cheese&onion mayo, a few of those Japanese fresh fish sticks (I can't remember what they are called.. The ones that are red on the outside and white on the inside..)
D: 4(!) Eggs mashed with butter and a few hours later a cup of fullfat Total with half a cup of rasberries and a little splenda

Both days I've also had coffee, yesterday with splenda and double cream, today with splenda and fullfat lactofree milk and I've had about 3 litres of water every day.

BIWItheBold · 03/05/2012 22:33

Hmm - you could be eating too many carbs - ditch the Homepride sauce, and replace onions with shallots. And half a cup of raspberries will be a lot oc carbs, especially with the yoghurt as well.

I'd also ditch the Splenda, and cut out/down the cream.

heartstart · 03/05/2012 22:37

6 litres down - glug glug glug glug glug

ToryLovell · 03/05/2012 23:02

6? Shock

Marabou · 03/05/2012 23:05

Thanks BIWI!

Yes, the Homepride sauce definitely was a stupid.. I normally just make my own, but this time was lazy:(.. Will use shallots from now on. I didn't know they were lower in carbs than regular onions.

Wau, I thought rasberries were only 3.5g carbs/half a cup?? I think I can live without Splenda in my yoghurt, but not in my coffee:(..

BIWItheBold · 03/05/2012 23:08

Individually all those things are probably ok, but add them together and you could be eating a lot of carbs

If you're not losing, then you should be doing Bootcamp not Bootcamp Light, so you shouldn't be eating raspberries

BIWItheBold · 03/05/2012 23:08

Oh, and crab sticks also have carbs in them ...

Marabou · 03/05/2012 23:24

I think you're right, I don't think I can quite handle Bootcamp Light yet:(..

I have been losing, but just not reliably and of course all the fluctuations are just getting to me. I also think the Splenda is making me crave sweets..

I really didn't want to do Bootcamp hardcore, but I guess I don't have a choice..

BIWItheBold · 03/05/2012 23:26

Sainsbury's Seafood Sticks are 15.5g carbs per 100g, which makes them pretty high carb.

Choice is up to you - but if you really want to lose, then you do have to be a bit stricter, I'm afraid.

Marabou · 03/05/2012 23:27

I have to say though, that my ketostix have been light pink even though I drink a lot of water, and I've generally felt good and not hungry, so I thought I was in ketosis and going downwards slowly.

Marabou · 03/05/2012 23:33

Oooohh nooo, that's way too carby - kicks herself in the shin!

BIWItheBold · 03/05/2012 23:35

But you posted earlier, wailing because the scales aren't going down!

If you want to lose weight faster, you have to be stricter. Go back to the rules, and think about your meal plans. Cut down on the processed stuff, see how much Splenda you can cut down - and consider ditching the cream.

Marabou · 03/05/2012 23:46

I know, you are absolutely right. I was just saying that as the ketostix had been showing pink I had somehow missed the carbcreep I think..

But yes, I will have to cut all the snacking on processed foods, nuts (I had some for snacks last week), berries and then I think I'll have to choose either yoghurt in the evening or creamed coffee in the morning.

Thanks so much for your help! I'll be starting bootcamp tomorrow and report back later with hopefully a big loss:)!

BIWItheBold · 03/05/2012 23:48

Let's hope so!

Sorry if I was harsh - but better to be straight, I feel.

Marabou · 04/05/2012 00:30

No apologies needed, I needed the reality check:)!

And thanks for the midnight mentoring, you're a star!

BIWItheBold · 04/05/2012 00:31
Grin My pleasure!
SharonGless · 04/05/2012 07:30

Love the new name BIWI and the 24 hour help line. Gym early , up late your dedication to the cause does not go unnoticed

BIWItheBold · 04/05/2012 07:30
Grin
mummyduff · 04/05/2012 09:10

Morning all, woke up feeling rubbish and very sickly, also weighed 1lb more today -that will have been the bubbly binge- Blush However drank so much water yesterday, which I think helped.

BIWI thanks for the info re what to do after being naughty.

Of to Bicester today for some nice retail therapy with my sister, oh and a spot of lunch Grin

Have a fab day everybody x

NotMostPeople · 04/05/2012 09:22

I'm a bit worried about the upcoming weekend, not that we have anything particularly planned but I'm struggling a bit and have hit a plateau.

I know I was going wrong with milk consumption but stopped that a couple of days ago and am using soya milk instead, which is 0.2g per 100ml. I really don't want to fall off the wagon but I think I'm finding the food a bit boring and need to summon up some enthusiasm.

Yesterday was:

B: Poached egg on two slices of black pudding
Mid morning: Protein shake made with 300ml soya milk, powder 2g carbs
L: Chicken salad with ceaser dressing (0.2g per 15ml)
Supper: Snacks made with peppers, cold chicken, mayo, coleslaw, tomato

The odd tomato snacked on during the day
A couple of cofee with spoon of splenda and small dash milk
A diet coke.

BIWItheBold · 04/05/2012 09:34

NMP - Not much veg there - and what there is could be quite carby - don't snack on tomatoes. A tomato is a fruit, remember?!

Also you really need to re-think the amount of artificial additives you're consuming - in the protein shake, the Splenda and the Diet Coke. These won't be helping, and they aren't part of the rules! (I know Bootcamp Light is less restrictive, but there is still a need to exercise some caution about the amount of these.

I'm also not sure about the fat content of your diet - it could be a little too low.

And did you look at the carb count of your black pudding?!

There's absolutely no excuse for finding the food boring! Get yourself over to the recipe thread for some inspiration!

BIWItheBold · 04/05/2012 09:36

Sainsbury only sell one type of black pudding, so I don't know what other carb counts might be, but theirs is actually pretty high in carbs - 16.6g per 100g.

FauxFox · 04/05/2012 09:43

10.13 again Grin

am finding all sorts of ways to reintroduce my poor attitude to making myself real meals though Blush i ate almond butter from the jar with a spoon for lunch yesterday Blush Blush

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