Paul McKenna would be so proud of us on THREAD 9...No Pain, NO PAIN!! The Non Diet for those who really want to lose weight. No calories, no syns, no humiliation, just shedding stones amongst friends.

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The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. So forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!!

The Paul McKenna system works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry OH NO we're not!!! so come on in and start living your new life today!

For the last two nights dh has said to me "don't eat too much tomorrow" and it seems to have worked a bit .

And he isn't PMcK!

Evening all, I've only just discovered PMK. Am reading the book and will listen to the CD for the first time in a minute.

A question for those that know:

If I choose foods that are higher in calories but still follow all the 'rules' will it work? For instance a cinamon raisen bagel for breakfast, biscuits mid morning. I'm not over eating, I'm eating when I'm hungry, and I'm enjoying every mouthful.

But choosing those foods can't work right?

IME, don't know if the others are the same, but when I'm proper hungry I don't choose those foods. And even if I did, I eat a lot less portion wise as I stop sooner. So might only eat 3/4 of the pastry rather than it all.

I don't cut out anything, but I do try to think about what I REALLY want. Last 2 nights I've had nachos with sour cream & cheese for dinner. Hardly 'diet' food but I've probably eaten less of a portion than I normally would.

Also, I've never really done the CD. I'm not sure it's the be all and end all, but I'm sure it must help.

Fab - are you in the habit of doing as your husband says, because if you are then I guess it would work!
It would fail miserably here

Bums - it will still work. You may find though, as I think most of us have a little way into this, that you stop wanting to eat things like that so often.
True hunger makes me think very clearly. And I find my body 'requesting' proper fuel.
Just go with what you fancy and see what happens

I actually stopped myself from comfort eating tonight by telling myself that I wasn't really hungry and that I could have the scone, jam and cream tomorrow; I've never done that before! and I've piled on a fair few pounds in recent weeks as I've been comfort eating and over eating a lot. This must end or I will just hate myself! I can't listen to the cd's atm as my cd player wont work :(

Hello bumbums

I agree with Ali about wanting to eat more healthy things. I think that you can probably get away with eating highly calorific stuff for a while, particularly if you have several stone to lose because you need more calories to maintain your weight and you can use them eating whatever you like, without restriction, but at some point, as you get closer to your target, you have to start eating sensibly. At the risk of being boring, I think I might have said before that you rarely only want to eat one thing. When we are hungry we could eat several things that would relieve the hunger so sometimes we should think carefully about our choices and go for the good choices rather than the bad ones. It doesn't have to be all the time but some of the time

If you are only hungry for biscuits mid morning, I would wonder whether you were really hungry at all. If you would rather not bother with anything else if you can't have biscuits, you are probably just eating because you fancy a biscuit and not because you are hungry.

BTW, is a cinnamon raison that bad? I quite often have a currant bun for breakfast. If you want to think calories it is only about 250 and really it is only a bit of bread and some dried fruit which won't do any harm and it is usually sufficient to get me through to lunchtime. I can't imagine that a cinnamon & raison bagel is any worse unless you have to smother them with cream cheese that is!

I don't think a cinnamon raisin is bad for breakfast at all, although I would have some yoghurt or a piece of cheese as well for protein.

There is an interesting thread at the moment about eating more to lose weight. Lots of things which I think could work well alongside PMK, although I am definitely not interested in starting to count calories

Ali - I don't always do as he says even though I said obey in my wedding vows.

Evening all. I seem to have dropped off the Fred again . Gutted to report my pain has come back :( Back on antibiotics and painkillers and waiting for an appointment with a specialist to try to get to the bottom of it. The lack of exercise is frustrating me but I can't do much. I'm applying the principle that simply by going to work which I'm just about managing! I'm more active than I was before I went back. I found my book and need to get back into it!
I agree about food choices. I realised when I'm Pauling right I wasn't likely to snack on junk. I never chose chocolate because either I wasn't really hungry or I knew chocolate wouldn't fill me up if I was hungry.
Right, I've decided right now - if this illness isn't going away any time soon, I can't hide behind it as an excuse to not be Pauling. I'm starting again right now! I'll move about as much as I can and focus on the rules!

Oh no! I am sorry to hear that Faith. I suppose you are right - if you are Pauling you are eating healthily so being ill is no excuse for not continuing. Just be gentle with yourself though. Don't ever feel like you are depriving yourself - you have enough on your plate without worrying about what you are eating.

I hope the specialist can sort something out this time and get your properly cured or at least know what you are dealing with.

Take care.

Thanks BBB. On the whole it's not as bad as it was although Thursday night was pretty miserable I guess I just realise I can't keep making excuses for being overweight. Eating a low sugar diet and drinking alcohol and fizzy pop are all meant to help with pain like this so it only makes sense that I turn to Paul! The one thing I feel I'm missing out on is exercise. I might look at doing something low impact like yoga or a swimming til it settles down.

Hello all. I wonder if I might come back to the fold as it were? I was on the thread a while ago but life got in the way. I have been quietly Pmking and doing ok but then I got silly, thought my weightloss was too slow, and joined SW. In just 5 weeks I have gained weight and regained all my food issues..... So I have binned SW and am back on PMK.
I am 5 foot 2 and weigh just under 16 stone. Tonight I will be listening to the CD on my MP3 for the first time in 5 weeks.

aith sorry to hear you are unwell again :(

Never welcome back :) I personally, vowed that I will never diet again.

Hello everyone else! lovely weather, but it stopped me gardening today.

Faith

Never - I think slimming world is the worst of all the 'diets', because it teaches you nothing about portion control, or listening to your body. My SIL did it and lost about 5 stone, and has subsequently put 6 stone back on. Very, very sad and utterly depressing for her.

In some ways I'm about the SW revelation but in others I'm not iyswim....I think I'd expect it to mess with your body but maybe not so quickly! So yes, welcome back Never. Clearly this is where you're meant to be.
I managed to listen to the cd last night . I was surprised how relaxed it made me. I remember listening to it in hospital and at times it was the only thing that did relax me. I feel quite positive. More body confident already - I think having some body tlc yesterday helped - full on pampering of shaving, exfoliating, moisturising, hair mask and a bit of fake tan :) It was all about taking care of myself. Definitely helped.

Hi all

I seem to have lost the plot though I have had concussion since Friday.

I don't know when I am hungry as I am not feeling it. I feel sick. Have been sent to bed to rest by DH. Fed up at being so fat and just nothing is working though I did lose 1 lb.

Hi Never. Glad you came back.

Fab - What have you done to get concussed? Hope you feel better soon and take care of yourself.

BBB - I smacked my head on the corner of a cupboard

at smacking head. Not nice.

Afternoon Ladies.

I do think SW is trying to address the portion control thing with the new 'orange' system where every meal needs to be 1/3 fruit or veg. Although my Class leader kept telling people they could eat until they were uncomfortable.......

My problem is that it set me back on the path of 'secret eating' - stuffing in forbidden foods ie high syn stuff when no one was looking. I also developed my old 'sod you I'm gonna eat it so nerr' attitude. Weight loss 'diets' are just NOT for me. I want a normal attitude to food. I don't want to choose the mini milk because it is low syn and gobble it down and still feel wanting. I want to eat a tasty ice cream, enjoy every mouthful and feel satisfied.

Today I have had a cup of tea, a toffee flapjack for breakfast, a packet of snack a jacks, a pate and cucumber sarnie and lots of water. I have felt no need to scuttle off to the crisp cupboard and stuff a packet in my mouth without DH seeing. I went to sainsbos and got a carpet picninc for tea but I didn't pick up a mars bar and a dairy milk to stuff in on the way home..... That, in itself, is a huge victory for me.

Today was officially day one so I weighed myself and I am 15 stone 11.8 lbs. In October I was 16 stone 8lbs so Over a long period of time I have lost weight and kept it off. I am glad I came to my senses as quickly as I did! I am a Pauler and thus I shall stay, I have over 6 stone to lose but I no longer care how long it takes.

Ouch to head smacking :( hope you're feeling better!
never you've done the hardest part - getting started. Stick with Paul (and us!) and it'll come off on your own terms.
I've had a good day. Have essentially had 4 small meals so far. After saying I would for ages, I have started re-reading the book today. Now I remember what it's all about! I've done the cd too. After I did it I felt motivated enough to garden so I got some activity and some sunshine. Sure I need the vitamin D!

Never that sounds really positive I can very much relate to the secret eating.

I was the same weight you are now when I started losing. I'm now nearly 3 stone lighter after 2 years - but I've had a baby in between which slowed my progress!!

It is a long road, but if I can do it then anyone can

sounds like you're on the right track mentally Never. I'm similar, I panic eat and secret eat. No idea why! But I'm enjoying not feeling like food is the boss of me at the moment when I'm Pauling.

I keep getting a kind of panic and wanting the weight off NOW and start to get silly ideas about starving myself and such like. So what I'm trying to do is to think "in 6 weeks time, when we go on holiday, I'll be slimmer than now" and "at christmas this year, I'll be slimmer than christmas last year". So maybe not at my perfect weight, but improved.