2012 NEW Jillian Michaels thread - Shred, Ripped, Killer, 6W6P, NMTZ, BFBM and other forms of JM torture!

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Here it is...hope it is recognisable to all from the old thread

Happy Jillian'ing all !!

Another foody family here. Notyummy, good point about portion size and educating them early is important. Greenfig, I think seeing your mum taking care of herself is important. I never saw my mum exercise because she didn't, but she's always been quite slim, although I'd say she's slightly overweight now at 74. I don't know if that's the reason why I hated exercise until a couple of years ago (apart from hiking). But like notyummy says, we talk about my Jillianing as my way of staying healthy, like DS does his kickboxing and running around the park and riding on his bike, and he knows that his dad has a very physical job so stays fit that way. We also do a lot of walking together as a family which DS has always done since he was out of a buggy. I'm quite shocked as how much of a struggle it is to get most of his friends to walk more than a mile. The low carb stuff is tricky, particular if you're avoiding potatoes & pasta altogether. Could you introduce small amounts into your intake?

well done everybody - this thread is so fast moving at the moment I'm struggling to keep up but it all seems v positive.

I agree that it is really important to make kids aware of the importance of eating fresh food, fruit, veg & fish and that they get used to seeing you exercise but also that you do some sort of sport or walking as a family. I think cycle rides & swimming are the most practical for us.

Home from work early and DH has taken DS out (nothing sporty!!) so managed to get my Tabata done earlt. usually I have to wait til DS has gone to bed. So now I can look forward to Corrie & chill

Wow so much activity on here! Interesting debate re what to say to the kids. I am not dieting as such so don't have the food issues. I eat every meal with my kids (except school lunch obviously) and we eat the same. I am careful to try not to get them to clear their plates and let them finish when they feel full (within reason). I need to take care with DS1 as he is a bit of a dustbin and will eat anything put in front of him. He is also at the age where he has started to stand around chatting in the playground rather then careering round like a looney! However they don't watch TV or play computer games at all in the week and spend all their time out of school outside or running round the house driving me mad .
Re the exercise DH runs and works out a lot and so my exercise is becoming the norm. We cycle and walk as a family and now the weather is better we are using bikes and scooters more to get to clubs etc.
Well today after a day off I did L2 RI30. I really enjoyed it. Just the first circuit CV is still impossible for me. My arms are too puny!
Can't work out tomorrow as too busy but will do BFBM on Weds (ugh). Have a great evening all..

Today, I have ran, and done 10/30DS, taken pics of myself in my pants (ew) and got myself the PMcK book/ CD from the library.

Finding the discussion about being mindful in front of the DC very interesting. My mum was always dieting and told me from an early age I was going to be fatter than other girls - she thought she was protecting me from her own disappointment about not being a ballet dancer because she was 'the wrong shape'. They were really strict about eating what you were given and when I was young, I remember my mum giving me cream cakes because I wouldn't be able to eat them when I was older and fat. She is definitely what you'd describe as a feeder - she likes to see other people eat as it gives her permission to eat/ makes her feel virtuous depending on whether she eats or not.

I grew to being an overweight teen, then she took me to a slimming club and we did a diet together, but I found it quite easy and she didn't so she reverted back to feeder mentality with me -buying me fish and chips or chocolate as a 'treat for doing so well'. I then yoyo-ed horribly through my twenties, including an excruciating period as an anorexic, but got my shit together seriously in the last four or five years. I've had therapy to help with my relationship with my mum (not food per se), got some real support off some people who I did activities with, who gently helped me see that I needed to eat to fuel my activity. I also realised if I wanted to have babies I needed to be fit and healthy (and menstruating!). The thing that scared me utterly about having babies was the thought I'd get a little girl and fuck her up entirely.

I have a little boy now, and am not worried about him in terms of exercise because we are an active family and both DP and I glow after exercise and love doing it. I also spent a lot of time thinking about how to manage food etc. with him because of my fears I'd be over-anxious and transmit that to him. I work really hard to model relaxed enjoyment and do all my fretting privately when he's gone to bed. The last thing for me is to return to the mindful eating that I know will help me feel great, inside and out, as well as model a good relationship for DS (and future DC?). I have my PMcK from the library today to help me with that! So I feel positive, and like my DC is the spur to finally get through the food shit rather than just manage it.

Evening all!

Lots of lovely busy-ness on this thread, although hard to keep up (rather like 6W6P!).

DVD player is behaving, I'm ridiculously happy, so I did L3 Ripped today. Those jumping lunges at speed are hard! I never found them a problem in Shred but the pace in Ripped is that bit faster and I'm creaking by the end...

I am 11 days into my new carer position and I officially feel like a bitch. I have turned into a teenager again (at the age of 39). I receive any instruction with a Kevin and Perry type response, and have to repeat everything twice as I'm never heard the first time round. So I'm either loud the first time and sound rude, or normal followed by exasperated loud and sound rude. I feel awful but I'm trying my best and falling short! Please please remind me not to give up my day job

Give me strength, should I up my weights lol?

Keep going everyone, great stuff going on

At least one level of Killer for me today- realised that I have only ever done it once since I got it!!

Agree those lunges in Ripped are tough. Ladies on screen are both going easy version towards the end.....

RI30 L1D7 done. Almost up to L2 and quite excited. Got my Paul McK book and CD yesterday, but couldn't listen to it as my iPhone died when I was trying to update it and I had to restore it which took ages. Have read some of the book though and will start listening during DS' nap this afternoon. I've tried this once before, but I didn't really commit (I.e. do the exercises etc) so this time I'm going to do it all properly including the 90 day journal. If I can get into the positive exercise habit, surely I can get into the positive food eating habit to (and out of e negative ones).

The Dc bought me 6w6p for mothers day.. Are they trying to tell me something!? I had been saying about getting it though so ill let them off!

Had my first go yesterday and didn't find it too bad. By back is killing today though. Once the girls are napping this afternoon ill be back on it.

Spotty I hope your knees are better. I could hardly walk for a while after starting the Shred. It is all better now though.

I have moved to L3 of RI30, and I have this totally ridiculuos and unfounded feeling that at one point I'll get better at this just like I did with the other levels.

After weeks and weeks of not losing any weight at all, I lost 3 pounds, so altogether a good 5 kilos since the middle of January.

My Mom never exercised or slimmed. She was naturally slim up to age of maybe 40 (my age now) and then she became fat. But she did very hard physical work well into her 60s, so she needed to eat.

I am afraid I had to tell DS (4) I need to lose weight, as he compared me to one of his nursery nurses who at the time was 9-month pregnant. DS is very physical and can do the hardest exercises on any level with no sweat I have attempted so far. (He watches me from the stairs and then does all the exercises for me later on.) It is really quite humiliating. He now has his Daddy's shape, who is nearly 6 feet tall and only 10 stones.

As far as abs are concerened, I think Ripped and the Shred are working away at them, as I recently noticed that I can do exercises I could never even try in the past.

Ooo I'll join you in the 6w6p pigley still waiting for it to arrive grr. You will need to take care of your back, do you understand about neutral spine?
Well done to you rosa
3steps is this caring for your mum? You need to punch out your frustration this is yoouur time! (L330DS I believe)
Sparkly sounds like you had a really tough time, it just reinforces how important our example is to our DCs doesn't it? My mum is well intentioned but I find myelf really gritting my teeth when she encourages overeating in my son in particular with 'well dones' when he is stuffed & 'if you can eat all that you can have extra puds' etc. I can remember being 'a good girl' for cleaning plates when I was fit to burst & still struggle to let food go to waste even when I don't want it. When I was younger I beleived I could eat what I wanted & stay slim, incl overeating but was lucky enough not to have any real problems. Inevitably the lbs crept on as I got older. However, I have changed my attitude towards food over the years & encourage a different attitude with my dcs to the one I grew up with. I guess the likelihood is that children today are more likely to have obesity issues than any sort of food denial issues, it's just the dreaded anorexia that seems so scary. Healthy eating & exercise & the old everything in moderation is the way forward. Although exercising most days of the week & occasional dieting to keep in the right bracket may SEEM excessive to me, it's actually sensible Thanks for all your thoughts.
BTW we are an active, healthy eating family but I think mine are closer to that scary age group than many of yours. Girls & body issues can be scary.

Xpost gingercat Its soo easy for them isn't it! Well done on the emerging 6pack!

greenfig My emerging 6pack is still covered in a lot of fat. Although I need to get smaller trousers soon . Yay!

Hello all, I'm another one who makes sure that the exercises are seen as about getting fit and healthy rather than losing weight - this has got to be the right message for the DCs.

And I hope that DD sees that I eat healthy portions and don't refuse any foods because they're "bad". Very much subscribe to the Aristotle "everything in moderation" point.

I could cry - my back is killing me (I never have backache) - I tried to do L2 of 6W6P yesterday and only managed 10 minutes, when it got to the lighthouse (is that what it is called?) I was in too much pain. Really twingey lower back. It felt a bit dodgy this weekend after I worked out, I don't like the pilates-esque move in L1 6W6P, and the windscreen wipers from NMTZ also made me feel uncomfortable.

I don't know what to do really - it really bloody hurts. I don't know whether to carry on working out or leave the more full on DVDs and just do L1 shred or something. I don't want to give up iyswim. I would feel that all this hard work is wasted - I felt gutted at giving up last night saddo.

I am also low carbing and do feel paranoid about its effects on my dd who is 16. However she is very fit - does all manner of sports all the time, and is pleased that I am getting into fitness. She sometimes sits on my bed and watched me do the DVDs, she also loves Jillian and thinks she is very funny (she also corrects my form sometimes which is highly annoying ).

Re the dieting, I was ill last year and on high dosage of steroids, which made me put on lot of weight, so she knows that it is a corrective measure really, and not 100% vanity and being obsessed with slimness (even though in truth there is a part of that). She has a handsome appetite - because she always exercises she eats what she likes and never puts on weight so doesn't have the silly obsessions that some teen girls can have. It is a HUGE worry with teenage girls, making sure that they have good self esteem. She has unfortunately inheritied my self critical edge, which I feel hugely guilty about. All those years of her watching me look in the mirror and my moaning about how ghastly I looked . I really hoped that my telling her all the time how marvellous I think she is she would have avoided that.

Getorf I would seriously think about stopping and resting; it will just get worse and you'll be out for longer if you try to work through the pain - been there done that. Hot water bottle and rest up, or physio if really bad?

Yup Getorf, I wouldn't do any more at the moment. Try to rest it, and you'll probably find it gets better in a few days. None of the hard work you've put in so far has gone to waste, far from it. But you need to rest your back to get it better. If there's no improvement in a few days of rest, get down the doctors. Hope you feel better soon x

Geroff- My back is hurting after 6W6P too. But ive only just started on level 1. Im hoping it because im using different muscles to the shred and that they will feel better in a few days when they get over the shock of being used!

For me its the lower back stuff thats doing me.. the superman stuff.

Greenfig- Im a novice in the world of exercising so please do explain the neutral spine stuff.

pigley sadly not an exercise expert but have back problems that pilates has helped massively. I got to the stage that I didn't know how to stand, everything hurt me. You need to stand squarely, tilt your pelvis forward & back to find your centre ie midway between the 2 & slightly engage your pelvic floor & core muscles which will help protect your back. You will become accustomed to how this feels with practice & can do it whilst laid down too, before beginning exercises. Aim to maintain this position whilst doing the exercises & stop if you feel you can't, just go as far as you can. You will be able to do more as you get stronger.
I can't do much extension work such as superman because of my condition. I substitute by going on all fours, engage centre, raise opp arm & leg together & extend to reach out to walls within your range w.out arching your back. Aim to keep a straight line from head, long neck, shoulders, hips (don't dip lower back). It works the same muscles but is gentler. Hope this helps.

Ps would def second others saying don't over do it.

Hate to add to the chorus Getorf but would really be careful. I am usually a really gung ho type (7 years in the military where the only reason not to exercise is some sort of hospitalisation does that to you )....However if you are in that much pain from you your back it is really not a good idea to do any of the JM stuff. Two years ago I insisted on 'pushing through the pain' doing a pretty hardcore yoga DVD I have, and I ended up almost immobile and in tears of pain with my back. I couldnt do any proper exercise for weeks. Basically I had a slightly bulging disc, which was causing the pain I ignored, and I almost completely herniated it with my antics.

Take some ibuprofen and use alternating hot and cold on the painful area. This will help a lot. If you feel really stir crazy then go for a long walk, but don't over-stride too much. If it subsides in a couple of days then try a L1 Shred or Ripped with v light weight.

Thank you everyone.

I have spent a while lying flat on the floor as it is the only relief I can get! I think I will give the exercise a rest for a few days. What a bugger though.

Those supermans are horrible.

I think I was too bloody eager. I upped the weight as well, went from a 2k weight to a 5k. Silly bloody cow.

at the 7 years in the military. My dd is in cadets (wants to join the forces) and she has got that 'never give up' ethos to sport and exercise as well. She looked at me when lying on the floor earlier with a 'get up you weed' look on her face

Hi everyone!

Would love to try 30 day shred, can someone explain it to me? Which DVD do I get? Do I have to have weights? Do I need anything else?

Am an exercise virgin - is this a good way to start?

Thanks

ooh great, pleased I've found you too. Posted a question elsewhere, but then did a JM search and found this thread!
So I'll just copy my post from over there!

I've been doing the shred for about 6 weeks now and really happy with the results.
I've found a lot of level 3 too hard to do properly ( found I was straining my lower back and not strong enough in my core I think yet meaning I'm overcompensating with my back..does that make sense? ) so do a mixture of level 1 and 2 adding weights to the cardio bits. I'd like to get another of her DVDs to mix it up a bit, but don't know which to go for. I'd like one that will just shift the last stubborn wobbles that aren't seeming to go. Can anyone recommend any of her other dvd's? It's not really weight I need to lose as such, just this last stubborn tyre ( albeit much, much smaller tyre thanks to JM ) round my middle.
I can feel that my stomach muscles are getting there but there's this tummy mummy pouch that I just can seem to shift..dead chuffed with my arms and shoulders so far though. Looking much more toned and nice! Yay!

Mum - 30 Day Shred is quite doable for an exercise virgin. It is only 20 minutes a day! Be aware though, it is 20 HARD minutes and will feel tough at first. You will ache, but if you carry on it will get better. You need trainers and a sports bra as a bare minimum, and some light weights (1/2kg to begin with.)

bobkate - 6W6P aimed at the mid section, however if you back is giving you problems I would treat with caution as it is tough on the back. I would get two and alternate - Burn Fat Boost Metabolism, and Ripped in 30. BFBM hasnt got much in that will be a strain on your back, but it is a tough cardio workout. Ripped in 30 is a different version of the shred. L1 is really quite easy, but it gets tough quickly and there are 4 levels.