Paul McKenna's No Pain, No Pain, Non Diet for those who really want to lose weight. No calories, no syns, no humiliation, just shedding stones amongst friends. Thread 8

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The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. So forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions.
The Paul McKenna system works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

Please feel free to join us. We are friendly, supportive and successful but we're not hungry!!! so come on in and start living your new life today!

Have to go now, be back later. :)

Thanks for the message solo. You were really slim at that height. I'm 5'9'' and look very, very thin at 10st, although I am quite wide: I have very broad shoulders/wide rib cageso think I'm quite big framed. I won't say heavy boned though as my wrists are tiny, as are my ankles. I really am an apple shape.

BBB I might join you in the non-religious observation of Lent. I'm just not sure I can hand over the chocolate... I will have a think.

I am now feeling pleased with myself as I've managed to wodge myself back into my size 16 jeans that I haven't worn for about 8 months. It's going! Woo!

I'm going on an unplanned evening out with DH, so I will have to be good, and not too celebratory! Saying that, at this moment we are planning to get up early and hike up a very big hill. (DH claims it's an English mountain, but I've only ever counted over 3000ft as a mountain in the Scottish tradition.) We shall see. It's a fair drive and will depend on the weather in the morning.

Kinky - the first week of no chocolate is hard but you get used to it surprisingly quickly I find and I do eat a lot more than I should. The last few days can be hard too, when the end is in sight. I am not giving up hot chocolate because it is a hot drink and I drink no coffee and very little tea so it is good to have the option if I feel like something warming. Plus I don't drink much anyway - I go weeks without having it so I might have an extra mug or two but not loads. Give it a go - you do feel very saintly afterwards.

I don't lose an awful lot of weight either, because if I want chocolate because I am hungry I will just eat something else but it does help break the habit of mindless snacking for a while which is my downfall.

Or give up something else that you wish you had more control over eating on bad days. Doesn't have to be chocolate if that is a step too far.

Welcome dotty .

Solo , BBB and esp. Kinky do you remember me giving you the name of my Internal Exercises book? I ask 'cos although it's on the weird side it gives some amazing exercises for double chins and bellies etc. and they're dead easy and the chin one worked well for me I do it all the time!!

I'm the apple shape so I'm lucky in that I've never had a big bum or thighs which is why I LOVE that muffin busting exercise!!! and I don't think we're EVER happy with our shape! I mean if top models like Christie Brinkley aren't happy there's no hope for us is there?!! Perhaps we all have unrealistic expectations (I look at a photo of myself in a bikini at 20 or so a size 8 and i remember i didn't like the photo then !!! and i look fine just not wearing any make up!)

DH always gives up something for Lent BB which is great it's just a shame he starts eating 'normally' (he's approaching being a diabetic type 2) and drinking too much wine after it!!!

Solo - I've always had broad shoulders and a small waist but I think I am with you - I am definitely more hour-glass than pear-shaped now although for me it is probably because I am bigger all over. I am wondering if bf for 2.5 yrs of my life has left me with a bigger bust to balance things out too to decrease the pear shaped effect.

Whatever shape I am my clothes still don't fit properly. I still have trousers falling down because my waist is a size smaller compared to my ass but I can't go down a size because of my humungous butt. Mother nature likes a laugh doesn't she?

ppeat - I am beginning to think I am the only one who was never a size 8 now!

And you could look at Lent this way, at least if your DH gives up something for lent at least for those 6 or 7 weeks he is getting some benefit which although small is still better than not giving up at all. Does he throw himself back into eating whatever he gives up the second Easter Sunday comes round? I tend to find that if I can eat it, I still don't bother with it much for a while. My Easter egg last ages!! The effect wears off eventually but it is certainly an improvement on now and you never know, this year might be the year I give it up completely.

BTW Kinks and Solo Congratulations!!!!! Great going

Oh yes BBHe's a real gourmet we all go out for a SPECIAL Easter Sunday End of Lent Lunch!!! I heard somewhere that you don't have to do yr lent thing on every sunday through Lent but I've kept it to myself !!!! The sad thing is he looks and seems SOO much better when he's off booze and wheat.

To be fair to him he is actually trying since the french doc. told him he's fine apart from his weight I said earlier he's been on the Dukan and lost 3 kg. but it's a bit odd IMO and his; no olive oil or fruit so he's given it up. He SAYS he'll try the P.M. again but what he says and what he DOES are often not the same IYSWIM!!

I have a haggard face and a huge arse. I guess the positive visualisation isn't working!

Am sitting on a train next a woman even bigger than me troughing a big bag of peanuts. Should I recruit her? She seems nice but defo emotional eater.

BB your type of figure is good for wearing skirts though I never feel comfortable in them they don't fit right or they make my belly seem bigger! See we're never satisfied are we?

Evening all :)

I haven't been a size 8 since I was 16! Since then I have bounced between a 12 and 14 with a short stay at 10 after DD1 was born.

At present I am on the large size of 12 with some clothes that were comfortable last summer not fitting again

I have decided to have my hair cut as a bit of a make over. It is currently quite long (just below bra strap) and dyed quite dark because I am very grey I caught a glimpse of myself in my bathroom window last week and looked awful! I'm only 32 and looked far too old for long hair :(

Really glad to hear everyone seems to be back in the groove.

Get well soon Solo and Ali

By the way how can you tell what body shape you are?

I am an apple. Empire line all the way. Usually flaunting my ample cleavage.

Think positively Mardy you can't see yr arse!!. it's funny about recruitment I feel evangelical about P.M. as well!

Tis true ppeat - I do like a nice skirt. Having said I would never be a 10 I did, around the time I got married when I was at my most haggard looking slim, have a size 10 skirt when the style was to wear them fuller and not fitted on the hips. I never got below a size 14 trousers though. Always had gaping waist bands or else wore a belt and had metres of fabric gathered around my middle. Very fetching.

No we are never happy, are we?!

LotsofGoodFun - I am also debating what to do with my hair. I haven't had it cut since August (forgot an appointment and was too embarrassed to go back to the salon and haven't found anybody else). It is the longest it has been since I was 27 (now 45) and below my shoulders. I quite like putting it up but I think, once I have lost a stone or 2 and my head doesn't look like a golf ball on top of a space hopper, I will get is short again. However, I would be surprised if you, at the tender age of 32, can't wear it long? Have you tried an up-do of some sort to see if it helps or changing the colour a bit to lighten it if you think it is too dark. It might help if you don't want to have it shorter.

I've never been a size 8, not ever. I have huge hips, even bony they are a 12.

BB I think part of the problem is after DD3 I lost a lot of hair and it is now really thin and doesn't look in that great condition to be honest. if I had beautiful glossy hair I would keep it long. I'm actually quite excited about having a change, new life new me

I have just googled and supposedly my body shape is rectangle. There isn't much more than 2 inches between my hips, waist and bust but my bum and stomach stick out a lot

I was a size 8 for about 10 minutes was I was 14, but woman cannot live on crackerbread alone!
lots I cannot get my hair past my shoulders. It's quite fine. A short funky bob works for me!

Hi! Wow this thread moves fast, you all seem very friendly though.

I'm pleased to find what seems like a really healthy approach to food, in every sense of the word. In the past i have heard colleagues at work do some sort of diet with points and they just seemed obsessed with food, talking about it all the time and tbh seeming to eat quite a bit and not very healthily. I think I eat the least when I'm not thinking about food or restricting myself, but when I have hobbies and I'm out of the house and just being busy with life.

I've not got any weight issues at the moment but I'm bf and conscious that now dd is on solids and will be reducing feeds I will suddenly have lots of calories not being burnt off like before, so I want to get into good habits now.

Sorry it will take me a while to get used to who's who but whoever was talking about walking that's something I love to do. We've got a holiday to Snowdonia booked for April and I'm currently trying to bid on eBay for a fancy pants child carrier rucksack so we can do - hopefully - Snowdon. That might be a bit ambitious though!

I have read quite a bit of this thread and starting to get a handle on people's situations, I hope you don't mind if I chip in with some comments now if I catch you chatting while I'm bf-ing. I will miss bf-ing and not just for the calories - gives me a lovely chance to sit down and mn, bet that will be harder once dd is a fully weaned toddler! (obviously will also miss lovely closeness and bonding moments too )

I usually post while bf (my baby has just fallen asleep on me and is looking adorable!).

It was my big baby's 3 year old party today :) AND I didn't eat tons of sausages or any cake in fact. I just didn't want it (which surprised me). I hope that lasts! I'm not sleeping much and haven't foudn time to do the cd or even finish reading the book and I've forgotten the exercises but my mindset is changing and just switching from a negative view of "diets" to PMK postive view of life and eating has made a huge change, and being intentional about eating. Not sure if I've lost anything yet but its only been a week and I haven't yet finished the book..!

Just checking in! Have been out for tapas tonight with dh and dcs and am feeling good! Had dessert but haven't overeaten a lot and just scoffed some love hearts but stopped when I got my 'full' signal so lol @ mardy recruiting on the train! Haven't shredded today but did yest and probably will tomorrow. Dils coming for lunch and tea tomoro and have promised to make them black forest gateau so might be challenging but well see. Keep up the good everyone.
Ps I haven't been a size 8 since it was age 8

I meant to add I'm terrified of the skin- sag thing :( I got very big with both my babies, and was overweight to begin with (then they were 9 10 and 9 14 - I lost 2 and a half stone within 2 weeks of giving birth this time!).

I have a separate stomach that seems to hang off me and its gross :( I was happily deluding myself that if I lose weight it will go but I suspect I'm into the category of surgery (not going to be an option) or live with it. I think if I lose weight it might og a little bit but am I going ot be forever tucking my "excess" in and not being able to wear dresses :( It is so horrid. First time I had an overhang (c section) but this time I can actually grab fistfulls, its really really gross.

Mardy I'm apple, but no ample bosom: what a swizz!! All my chest-height flab is around the sides and back. Like I said, sexy lady .

sunshine I love Snowdon and am very of you. DS too big for carrier and too little for mountains yet, but when he can do it, we're there. It remains one of my favourite walks of all time, and to say I was forced up it as a resentful teenager who wanted to go to Spain like her mates, that is really saying something! It is so beautiful there. I also loved Cadar Idris. I did not like Trifan as that got a bit clambery towards the top and I'm a wuss.

Anyway, I need to shusshhhhh you bf-ing ladies. I am broody as hell at the moment. It is not a sensible time for thinking about DC3... that's what I keep telling myself as I think about DC3 .

using you need to get to the weight you want to be at, give yourself at least a couple of years for it to settle (it can take ages to go back), and do pilates which is bloody amazing at helping the appearance of it. Mine did look better when I was doing pilates. It didn't overhang as much as it does now. I actually think what has finished it off for good is the fecking yo-yo dieting that I've done over the past 5 years. I also LOVE bodysuits under dresses when I go out. Sadly, I've pretty much lived in them since I was 19, but they work.

Using I have a c section overhang, tis horrid. I have been doing ppeat's muffin buster and also the Tuplar core exercises plus some pilates abdominal work recently and it is getting better for sure. It will never be gone, but I wear spanx or whatever under a dress and it looks fine especially now that I have lost some weight.

Morning all this thread does move fast! using take advice from Ali is it time for a repeat of the muffin buster exercise d'ye think?

If it's any help to counter the broodiness Kinks When we had no. 3 It felt much more full on IFYSWIM I know you've a big gap between yr first 2 but with the emotional and all other probs with yr DD IMO you'd be even more stretched in every way!!!

BTW has anyone read the post about wholegrains? It's amazing and it explains a lot