Paul McKenna's non diet. No calories, no syns, no humiliation, just shedding stones amongst friends. Thread 7.

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The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
4. STOP when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches so forget diets, they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. The Paul McKenna system works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here is the book on AMAZON which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

Please feel free to join us. We are friendly, supportive and successful but we're not hungry!!! so come on in and start living your new life today!

I'm doing alright, but I'm forward thinking to when I fail and start eating badly again, sounds mad I know, but it's a cycle I always seem to be in, so I need to break it! Was VJaaarrrgghh by the way, have resorted back to plain old Vjay.

Well this isn't going too well today massive row with my inlaws brewing and I'm comfort eating

Hi pp, long time no see :)
cold I'm often the same in struggling to work out what I fancy, maybe try getting a drink and seeing how you feel half an hour later?

VJay stop being negative! you don't need to feel like that and you know that! :) just try to turn the negativity into something positive. If you tell yourself positive stuff often enough, you'll start to believe it sooner rather than later. For instance; I started to lose the weight when I started admiring myself in the mirror. I found it bloody hard to do at first, but it got easier!

You're right solo I've also realised another pattern I'm always so moody the first week or so and i think it's because I've stopped snacking and my body is missing it, so now I've recognised that I can ride it out so to speak.
I hate looking at myself in the mirror but will give it a go.

Seriously VJ it helps. I started off by whizzing past the mirror and saying 'nice tits' out loud to myself , but I was eventually able to actually look at myself and actually, I have a very shapely body albeit overweight and flabby.

will give it a go.

VJ - I can confirm it really does work. I am avoiding the mirror at the moment, for some reason it is not my friend.

I have done so much better today. Haven't eaten past fullness at all, and I didn't have any dinner because I really wasn't hungry, I've just had a pear. Feeling a teeny bit peckish now, but nothing that a glass of water won't fix and I'm going to go to sleep and wake up lovely and hungry for my breakfast in the morning. :)

I have been good too :)

I was good til the evening then had too much chocolate and had a migraine during the night, not had one of those for months BUT it has made me not want to the binge again, silver lining and all that. I had a peak at myself this morning, it wasn't too bad hate my tummy but it's only to be expected after two big ds's.
I am sitting at the table while the boys munch through the breakfast while I have a glass of water as its all I want just now.

Never mind avoiding the mirror, I am avoiding this thread too!

I was reading what you have been writing and also thinking I can't think of a single positive thing to say at the moment. Plus I reaslise that I don't look after myself. It isn't just the eating (way too much evening snacking) and the weight, it is the sleep, I forget to put moisturiser on, I forgot to go for a haircut 6 weeks ago, genuinely completely forgot, but I haven't booked another one yet and I look awful but I forget as I don't look in the mirror. I need to book a dentist appointment and a doctor's too to look at my dodgy finger joints (probably arthritis like my mum and grandmother had) just lots of little things but I am not looking after myself.

In my defence I have been busy too but not that busy. Not quite sure how to get a grip really.

I'll come back when I am a bit more positive- I blame the weather! Keeps pouring down here and there was a lot of thunder last night too. Probably accounts for some of the bad mood. I got soaked on the school run!

Hope everybody else manages a more upbeat day.

Niecie don't run away! There was a lot of thunder last night, and it is oppressive today.

What you've said brings me to something that I've been pondering for a few days. There was a thread in S&B the other day about 'princessing'. Vile term, but the gist of it was to look after oneself better. There was too much talk of teeth whitening and the thread 'leader' was a bossy cow so it didn't appeal, but the idea got me thinking.
Then there was another thread in 'Feminism' about general wellbeing, mind and body without fixating on looks which resonated with me, but I am too scared to post in there

I feel like it sits well alongside PMing - looking after yourself physically and mentally and spiritually - and I had wondered about using this thread as a motivator to do it. Does anyone have any thoughts?

I think it does sit well with pming in that we are listening to our bodies and taking our lead from that rather than a diet sheet, so to speak. I'm not very good at putting what I mean into words, but I do get what you mean.

It's an idea Alibaba - what did you have in mind?

I know Solo was attempting to put some make up on every day. I don't know how she is doing with that one at the moment with that but I remember her saying it made her feel more positive.

Perhaps we need a Fly Lady stylee, baby steps thing. Like, Week 1, put on mascara, doesn't matter if you do nothing else in making the best of yourself you have to do that one thing. Then week 2 you do the mascara and look in the mirror for 3 minutes a day without running off. Whatever you feel like and I think you build up from there. (I am no expert on Fly Lady as the state of my house will confirm)

Or is that a stoopid idea?

Hello! Niecie! Stay right here my lovely! we are in this together and you cannot run away; it's not good for you.
Yes to still putting on make up. I've hardly missed a day :) and it does make me feel more attractive actually :) and I think we should do the Fly Lady style caring for ourselves too. Very good idea!

Ali I think pp is good at that sort of thing. Where has she gone?

VJ you have to accept your tummy... 'I accept my tummy as it is, as it nurtured and protected my babies for x months and therefore is a beautiful part of my body.' Repeat whilst admiring yourself in the mirror please.

I will solo well I will start to.
What's Fly lady style?

Solo I do that about my belly. No matter how much weight i lose it will always be a mess but it grew my beautiful babies and I am proud of that

I don't know what I had in mind really, I suspect it will be different for us all. I wear makeup every day, not much but enough to make me look a little bit awake and groomed. I would like to look after my hands better because I always chew them and it makes me look 15
Go for a walk, take vitamins, learn something new every day, moisturise my elbows, spend more time making my home how I want it to be (a friend bought me a beautiful frame to put a picture of my youngest in. He is 7 months old and it is still empty!).
This seems to be about me finding myself again. I've been pregnant or feeding since the day I got married 4 years ago, everything I do is within the context of my relationship with either my husband or my sons and that balance needs a little redress.
Sorry I am really waffling here but it helps to clarify my thoughts!

Helloooo solo thanks for your concern! i'm here again! .Mum has gone back now so I can come on here without too much guilt(why do we always feel guilt about something i wonder? I like the more philosophical way this thread is going though!).

I tell you what i have discovered make up wise is the new,for me anyway, mineral make up ,I've got the powder (it's not an old fashioned powder) and bronzer also a lovely eye shadow; it covers up a multitude of sins, stays on longer also goes on quicker which is another great thing about it, than any makeup i've ever owned, the maker is Une I got it in Boots.

Ppeat - Welcome back! I think we have to be more philosophical than some weight loss methods. We are dealing very much with the way we think as opposed to just counting calories. And that is vital really for long term weight loss. Plus there is only so often you can talk about what you ate today before nodding off with the boredom of it all!

VJayazzle - Fly lady is a thread for the terminally messy who want to get a grip with their housekeeping but can't see the wood for the trees. If your whole house is a pit where do you start? They usually start with making sure their sink is washed down and shiny for a week and then add the tasks to it. They also (I think) advocate only doing things in 15 minute blocks and then stopping because most people can at least be motivated to clean for 15 minutes without a break. Eventually you build your way up to a routine so that your house is in a decent condition.

So I was thinking maybe we should be doing baby steps to build self esteem and a more positive outlook - tidy ourselves and our outlook up in baby steps instead of the house! For me it would be perhaps putting on some mascara and building up from there but for others it is clearly different.

Maybe we could all do with 2 minutes, daily in front of the mirror admiring a good bit and be strict about it - no slacking.

Alibaba - It takes a while to reclaim yourself after having children, can't it? Especially if you don't go back to work. Just being able to go out of the house without children in tow is a treat in the early days. I reckon a regular thing just for me it took 2 yrs after DS1, when I did an evening class for fun, and 3 years after DS2 when I started my MSc. It might seem a long way off but time flys! It also depends on bf and whether you can express and find a babysitter. I was crap at expressing so that was me stuck for 16 months after DS2 was born.

Freedom will come soon enough.

Right, I am off to put on some mascara!

Hello everyone. Sorry I have been rubbish at chatting to you all. Hope you are all well.

I have no idea what is going on with me as I am finding food is not an issue at all. I am not thinking about it when I go to bed wishing the morning to come quickly so I can eat again. I am not clearing my plate for the sake of it and will stop when full and really listen to myself. I don't beat myself up if I want some sweets, a muffin or some ice cream and I feel calmer and a tiny bit slimmer. Still 2-3 stone to lose but feeling good about things.

Kids happy in school, very settled and have made new friends .

Hello, not had much time to pop in and when I do I forget!
Things not going so well. I'm listening to the CD daily (its on my mp3). I'm very good at eating when hungry and I'm very good at eating what I want but sadly I'm not good at eating mindfully and I'm rubbish at stopping!
I do have several concerns.... I teach and thus my meal times are pretty dictated, if I don't eat breakfast before leaving whether hungry or not I am thenravenous by the time I get to work... I also have to take my lunch....
When I get home form work is the worst point, I just want food in my mouth! I suspect it may be thirst I'm not recognising but I wondered if tapping would work at that point? Its not a particular food I want, just SOMETHING...
Hope everyone is getting on OK.

Theorig THAT IS FANTASTIC!!! well done for sticking with it and finally cracking it both the pauling and the dreadful school thing effing well done have some flowers

socktoaster!! i used to do supply teaching and i would take a snack pack of macadamias, sultanas, walnuts,dates etc. and a bottle of water of course ; the macadamias are amazing because they take a lot of chewing and so fill you up also i took an apple and pear or whatever or an extra sandwich. It worked well

Thank you pp. Especially as I have been told I reacted badly to it all with lots of fuss.

Never I am like that when I get in from work too. I have found that this is getting better though, I think like you say it's thirst and I'm probably more hydrated now.

I completely agree with everything you've all said about making an effort with appearance leading to a more positive attitude. I'm always much more confident when I'm nicely dressed with my nails done etc. I guess it's just he thought that yes, I may be overweight, but I'm still a worthwhile attractive person. Actually just putting on a bit of nail polish lifts my mood so much it's odd.