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Starting a low carb diet - anyone interested in going for it with me?!

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 02/09/2011 08:56

I did this very successfully indeed for about 6 weeks in the run up to the summer break. I have been trying to lose weight for a while and was doing OK but then reached a plateau which was when I decided to try something new. And I easily lost a stone doing this.

It was hard in the beginning, for about the first week, then I sort of settled in to it and it just became how it was. And I like the rules of it, because you just can't cheat on it. But it was sometimes hard juggling what the family were going to eat.

I have been cutting down since Tuesday, but will be going for it completely on Monday 5th. I want to lose a stone. Is anyone interested??!!!

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kotinka · 08/10/2011 23:58

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catinboots · 09/10/2011 06:53

Help help help

We had friends round last night. I didn't succumb to any carbs but I got pissed as a newt on Vodka and tonic Grin

Still 10st 9lb this morning but in hangoever hell and trying to resist the call of the breadbin.

What low-carb comfort foods can ease my pain?? Not fancying eggs or cheese at all......

cardoon · 09/10/2011 08:58

Where do you get the ketosis sticks with the xxx readings rbotp? - I would like to check that I'm not dragging on out of ketosis as I may have been cheating a bit

cardoon · 09/10/2011 09:18

Meant to say... I just oil spray my celeriac chips and they are divine - feel like a real treat!

Today I am going to be attempting the " mama lupe tortilla split"..........
.......wish me luck Grin

wonders how many custy ruined in training

catinboots · 09/10/2011 09:29

I got mine in the local village chemist. Apparently most chemists stock them - you just have to ask for them over the counter.

I'm off out to find some celeriac............

cardoon · 09/10/2011 09:39

Do they have the xx reading cat?- I would like to take the colour shade guesswork out of the equation.

RatherBeOnThePiste · 09/10/2011 09:57

got very quickly from ebay!

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 09/10/2011 09:58

like these here

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 09/10/2011 09:59

and yes they have the colours and the ++++ readings

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cardoon · 09/10/2011 10:18

Thanks for that RB.....I can see how they would soon become addictive!

and cat... make some dukan muffins

bigfatgypsy · 09/10/2011 10:30

Thanks kotinka - so to clarify, is there no such thing as a 'much-lower-carbs-than-I-used-to-eat-but-not-as-low-as-20g-a-day' low carb diet?

I reckon I could put away over 100g a day before, and have cut this back to prob 30-40 maybe (less some days though)

Is this just not going to work or will I just lose weight slowly?

turkeyboots · 09/10/2011 10:34

Help! Can I join in? DH and I have been following the pig to twig book, but in the first week have put on a stone each ....

Totally screwed up somewhere along the line, so welcome anything to help try to figure out what we are doing wrong. Not eating any rice/potatoes/bread or fruit or milk. Lots of meat and veg, eggs, cheese and creamy sauces.

Are we just eating too much?

catinboots · 09/10/2011 11:10

Check your creamy sauces for flour/carbs?

I'm no expert BTW, just starting Pig 2 Twig myself, but lost 4lbs in first week.

turkeyboots · 09/10/2011 11:19

I'm making my own sauces, so no carbs there. Is just so depressing, and going out now to buy more meat! Will give it another week, with smaller portions and cut back in the cheese and cream and see how it goes.

But I only had a stone to loose, and now I have 2!

RatherBeOnThePiste · 09/10/2011 11:26

I imagine you are eating too much tbh, you must be to have put on a stone in one week, and you still need to watch the fat intake and calories on a low carb diet. Cheese can really only be eaten in moderation.

You need one of professionals on here and they will explain it very clearly.
Also watch the carb content in certain veg - root veg esp.

Don't give up yet though, it took me about 3 weeks to really crack this and understand it, but now I know exactly what to do, I'm finding it very successful.

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turkeyboots · 09/10/2011 11:32

Thanks. That's reassuring. Have been eating more than usual, which the scales have noticed. Will try again. Less cheese, more veg!

RatherBeOnThePiste · 09/10/2011 11:33

but the right veg!

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 09/10/2011 11:42

This is BIWI's post from earlier in the thread which I thought was very helpful indeed, I know it was in reference to stalled weight loss, but it is relevant for everyone..

Water.
Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be

Weight-----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

Citric acid.
Citric acid, a common ingredient in diet drinks, can stall weight loss for some lowcarbers. If you are sensitive to this ingredient it can slow you down.

Caffeine.
Many lowcarbers drink caffeine and still lose weight. You may want to wean yourself off caffeine to see if it helps. In Atkins' book, The New Diet Revolution, it says that you aren't allowed caffeine because it triggers an insulin response, but that information has since been found to be incorrect. The insulin response that Atkins saw in his patients was more likely due to citric acid. Do keep in mind that one cup of coffee can have roughly .6g of carbs, so make sure to add those into your daily carb allowance.

Dairy
Dairy can be a problem for some people. If you experience slow or stalled weight loss try reducing or eliminating dairy, especially cheese. Some have found better results by cutting all dairy. Although cheese is allowed on lowcarb plans it does seem to effect weight loss if consumed in high quantities.

Nitrites
Nitrites - found in processed meats like hot dogs and bacon can cause problems for some, you may want to monitor their effect.

Alcohol
This is an area that seems to vary a great deal between individuals. While it is true that many alcohol products contain few carbs, alcohol itself is a fuel source. The body will choose to burn alcohol before any other source of fuel. However, many people have reported that they are able to consume moderate amounts of alcohol while on low-carb without having any problems. As most people are already aware, alcohol has a depressant effect which lowers inhibitions, including those that could stop you from overeating and making poor food choices.

Menstrual Cycle
Many women find that their progress is affected by their menstrual cycle. After a few months, you will have an idea of how your cycle affects weight loss, and you will be able to take it into account when measuring your losses. People have noted the following interactions between low carb eating and the menstrual cycle in women include: heightened carb cravings in the second half of the cycle, ketosis levels dropping or disappearing altogether, differences in the amount and severity of cramps, changes in the heaviness and timing of the cycle. Additionally it has been noted that a low-carb diet is very helpful to women with PCOS.

Protein
Although getting adequate protein is of vital importance on a low-carb plan, taking in too much protein can also be a problem. You will need enough dietary protein to avoid any muscle loss and to produce some necessary glucose. Protein is converted to glucose at a rate of roughly 58%. Therefore, too much protein can produce too much glucose. If you are having problems with staying in ketosis (or getting into ketosis), you may need to track your intake of protein and then make adjustments. It is highly recommended that you don't restrict your intake of protein in the initial adaptation stage of starting a low-carb plan.

Glycerine
One of the recurring issues of stalls and labelling discrepancies regards many of the low-carb protein bars currently on the market. While the true carb count of the bars is low, most of these bars contain glycerine. Although glycerine is not a carb, it can be metabolised like a carb by some individuals. Additionally, it can cause muscle cells to hold water, hence its use by some athletes.

Prescribed Medicines
There are a number of medicines that can interfere with weight loss, the worst offenders are the psychotropic drugs; phenothiazines, tranquillisers, anti-depressants, etc. The next are hormones such as oestrogen, prednisolone and other steroids. Many anti-arthritic drugs especially NSAIDS, diuretics and to a lesser degree other cardiovascular medications. You cannot stop these medications! Atkins suggests that you can gradually replace the drug with diet and suitable supplements. Do not stop medications without consulting your Doctor!!!

Hormonal Balance
A significant percentage of people, who have difficulty losing weight, have an under-active thyroid. The typical symptoms are; mental and physical slowness, lethargy, memory loss, heavy periods, a hoarse voice, increased weight and intolerance of the cold. The eyes may become swollen, the skin dry, and the hair ?lifeless?. Constipation is also common. You can ask your doctor for a thyroid function test if you think you may have this condition.

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turkeyboots · 09/10/2011 13:10

Wow, this all looks far more complicated than I thought. Feel low carb mightn't be right for me, was hoping it was as simple as no rice/bread etc. Cross that I put on weight when if I stuck with my normal routine I'd be lighter. Bah.

Will give it til wed and if I put on anymore weight I'm going back to weightwatchers.

bigfatgypsy · 09/10/2011 13:46

A stone in one week is surprising, if you only actually wanted to lose one stone. Do you think you know where you went wrong? I'm finding it hard to get portion sizes right, and in particular the meat.

Can anyone tell me, if I'm having a roast dinner say, should I just have the usual amount of meat but have more veg to make up for no potatoes, or should I be having more meat as well?

Have now bought some celeriac so will be checking out those chips later. Dh was a bit Hmm when I told him so they've got a lot to live up to!

BecauseImWorthIt · 09/10/2011 13:51

If you've put a stone on in a week, something is going seriously awry. How much do you both have to lose?

Although Pig to Twig is a great book, it is very light on the theory behind low carbing, and (IMO) can also encourage over-eating.

Get yourself either the Atkins New Diet Revolution book, or Charles Clarke's High Protein Diet book, to read up more on how it works. Another good one, although it's not specifically focused on low carbing, is The Harcombe Diet.

Can you post the kind of meals/foods you have been eating over the last week, so we can see if we can help you?

Once you understand low carbing it should be much simpler than any other diet, as you don't have to weigh/count anything!

turkeyboots · 09/10/2011 14:02

Thanks everyone. I wanted to loose a stone, two now and DH needs to loose 3.

Last week we had, tuna nicose salad ( minus potatoes) steak and salad, and other fish and meat salads with creamy dressing (or just a drizzle of cream when I felt lazy). For breakfast had bacon and eggs or scrambled eggs. Didnt think I was doing anything too wrong, according to the book.

But before this ate a generally low fat diet, and taking out carbs, booze and takeaways alone should have lost me some pounds. Very demoralized today and will give up as I can't even gave a decent cup if tea to make myself feel better.

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BecauseImWorthIt · 09/10/2011 14:14

turkeyboots - how much did you weigh when you started? And how tall are you?

kotinka · 09/10/2011 14:14

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