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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Paul McKenna WILL make us thin! Part 4.

955 replies

HowToLookGoodGlaikit · 04/05/2011 10:00

Sparkling new thread Grin

Firstly, the Golden Rules

  1. Eat what you WANT
  2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
  3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
  4. STOP when you are satisfied

Here is the book on Amazon which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique explained - this can be useful for cravings.

Please feel free to join us :)

OP posts:
pointydog · 05/05/2011 21:43

I was being completely genuine in my last post. I do wish you luck and I realise you want to remain super positive.

You;re making it sound a bit culty now.

SoloIsApparentlyACougar · 05/05/2011 21:47

I was typing my last post whilst you had already posted yours pointy. Not culty, but we obviously have faith in what he has taught us. It's working for us :) Thanks for the luck.

SoloIsApparentlyACougar · 05/05/2011 21:48

Ps. I love PM Blush

shrinkingnora · 05/05/2011 21:49

Nicely put, Solo Grin You see, he is making you calm and thin....

WMMC - glad to hear it is still going well. I would be really interested to hear how the life changing goes Grin

Pointy - I don't think buying the CD second hand for a couple of quid/free tickets to the seminar/ illegally copying your mates CDs is going to make him much money, do you?! I can see how people find him irritating though, but I now just feel grateful to him....

shrinkingnora · 05/05/2011 21:50

Better culty than cunty....Wink

shrinkingnora · 05/05/2011 22:09

God, I meant Paul, not you pointy!

Niecie · 05/05/2011 22:10

Nothing like as culty as WW or SW or Rosemary Conley, making money out of making sure that people don't actually improve fragile relationships with food but rather that they feel they have to keep buying the low-cal/low fat/low carb crap so that they get to their target weight. Then when they get there, if they dare to stop buying the diet crap, thinking that they are 'cured' they find they put all the weight back on again and have to start all over again with the Points or the Sins or the calorie counting and they get sucked back into buying the crap all over again. The fundemental problem of the poor relationships with food still remains.

The most any of us on this thread will buy is a couple of books and a CD or two, some of us don't even bother with that. It clearly works for some people (it hasn't for me but I have just started) and it works in a way that can be maintained for a lifetime not just until a target has been reached.

I am not PM's no. 1 fan. I find his voice irritating and I am not that bothered about using the CD but that doesn't mean that his methodology is at fault or that I won't succeed because this isn't about a quick fix but a way of re-educating my approach to food. So, if it works, who cares if he makes money from it? If it doesn't he won't have taken much off me anyway so I won't be feeling ripped off.

Will you be visiting the WW or the SW threads to tell them they are equally deluded and are destined to be yoyo dieting for the rest of their days?

pointydog · 05/05/2011 22:14

I did wonder, nora. I thought it best to stay quiet Grin

shrinkingnora · 05/05/2011 22:18

Trust me, if I was going to start telling people on MN they were being cunty, you wouldn't even get on my list....

DingDongMerrilyOutOfSeason · 05/05/2011 22:28

Ooooh, let's start a cunty list! Wink

SoloIsApparentlyACougar · 05/05/2011 22:56

You've well and truly joined our club now old chum Wink

SoloIsApparentlyACougar · 05/05/2011 22:57
shrinkingnora · 05/05/2011 22:58

Terribly scary, me Wink

shrinkingnora · 05/05/2011 23:03

Actually, I am really fucking knackered after spending all evening in a&e with my friend who was knocked off his bike by a hit and run driver

DingDongMerrilyOutOfSeason · 05/05/2011 23:05

Just think, Nora, a few months down the line when you are really skinny and fit you would have been able to chase the driver, catch him and make a citizen's arrest!

DingDongMerrilyOutOfSeason · 05/05/2011 23:05

Sorry, far too flippant! I hope your friend is ok.

SoloIsApparentlyACougar · 05/05/2011 23:14

is friend Ok?

shrinkingnora · 05/05/2011 23:14

He's fine. I did once chase someone on my bike after they hit my handlebars with their wing mirror and then drove off. I didn't catch them though. It was on a hill honest

JuicyOlive · 05/05/2011 23:50

Firstly, Nora - it sounds like you're having a hard time at the moment. Have a .

In response to PointyDog - yes I understand your scepticism - I am very sceptical person and definitely anti-woo. However, hypnosis is something which is very established, for many different applications as well as weight loss.

As for PM himself, for those who weren't there for the webchat a few months ago, I was NotOlive who went on to complain about the fact that he ridiculed me at one of his hypnotic stage shows back in the early 90s and compared me to Olive from On the Buses - hence the name for this thread. Admittedly I did have a bad haircut at the time and wasn't wearing the most flattering of dresses but 20 years after the event, (even though I had developed a thick skin/protective armour) the slight still rankled sufficiently for me to join the thread and challenge him about it.

The man had the grace to apologise and invite me foc to the seminar. And I was sufficiently intrigued enough to go along. I have to say that, yes, he is obviously a business person who is looking to earn money from a market opportunity. He is also a charismatic personality who knows how to work a room and develop a good relationship with his customers. From a business perspective I can relate to that - but there is a fine line between charisma and smarminess. In the seminar I felt that he was firmly on the charismatic side but I can see how it could be translated as "smarmy" in other contexts. But I was also highly sceptical of his associate Kevin Laye who also featured in the seminar.

I was also heartened to hear some of the things he had to say. In particular, there was none of the usual "fatty bashing" which is SO prevalent in society (AND MN). I have said this on previous threads but one of the most resonant things he said was that none of us is inherently bad for being overweight, we have just developed some poor eating habits. As someone who has been overweight all my life, it was one of the most positive things I had EVER heard. Even if you take away the hypnosis aspect of the programme, the whole ethos of eating according to need - rather than want - surely makes total and utter sense.

The man isn't fleecing us either. The book and CD costs less than a tenner - much less than 5 or 6 quid a week for a slimming club (plus all the additional items they try and flog you). He's also realistic and admits that there will be a 30% failure rate for his system.

Can't believe I have typed a post this long in defence of a bloke I previously loathed. That's it really.

BTW, I haven't lost much on the system, but I'm happier and have lost a little.

QueenStromba · 06/05/2011 00:55

Thanks shrinkingnora, I really do feel like I've conquered my food demons even though I've only been doing this for a week. It's such a simple set of rules that I don't know why I've not been told them before. I think if someone had even just told me to chew my food 20 times when I was a kid then I wouldn't have battled with my weight my whole life - why does nobody tell you that eating quickly makes you fat?

I was actually feeling so confident after my win against conveyor belt sushi that I decided to go for round 2: pizza (after the pub too). We got a half and half pizza so I put a small slice of each one on a plate side plate along with 6 cheesy jalapeno bites. I put one of the slices back (minus a jalapeno).

Now that I know I can have conveyor belt sushi and pizza without overeating I think I can face any eating situation. I was doing low(ish) carb before I started this and I was losing weight and sticking to it but I was being obsessive about it which has been a pattern of mine.

I was always a fat kid, teenager etc with brief interludes of being slim. Then I got up to 14.5 stone (3 stone of which came on in the space of a year). In 2005 I almost died of an asthma attack, and realised that my weight was killing me. I started doing the low GI diet, which was brilliant - I lost 3 stone in about 6 months. Then I encountered a week long situation where I wasn't in control of the food I was eating, so the diet went to crap and I put 2 stone back on. Then I had a bit of a shock, meeting someone who hadn't seen me since I was 19 (5 years), and that spurred me on to lose that two stone again.

I spent a couple of years gaining and losing the same stone or two and have again ballooned in a year to 15 stone. I've already lost a stone so I'm a fifth of the way there already. I feel hopeful that this is the end of the cycle for me and that today is the last day I will weigh 14 stone.

PositiveAttitude · 06/05/2011 06:48

Juicyolive thank you for sharing your story. I, too was am a real anti-paul, mainly for the reasons you have said. I hated seeing his humiliating shows and always felt so sorry for the people who were being laughed at. It has put me against any form of hypnosis really. It took me a long time to even give this thread a chance. I would often look at the title and think "No way, Paul McKenna, con artist". It was only after starting a sensible eating plan and being directed over here that I actually read that you lot were actually having positive results and I thought it was common sense and bought the book. I still resisted listening to the CD, though as my deep seated hatred of hypnosis was still there. Yesterday I listened for the first time and I thought it was quite good. Smile
Sorry that was a bit of a long ramble just to say, Pointydog, that I can see where you are coming from, but do you need to lose weight, have you given it a go?

So much of your story resonates with me, too QUeenStromba. I, too, feel now it is the end of a cycle and the start of a new way of life for me. Well done on losing a stone so far. How long has that taken?

SilveryMoon · 06/05/2011 07:02

Wow. Nice to read your stories ladies.
QueenStromba Great that you are feeling better and confident with this after a week.
I didn't eat dinner last night in the end, but i did get up at 2am and had a choc-ice, but I did enjoy it and I only had one instead of the 2/3 I'd have had monday night.
I really don't know how to recognise hunger. When he says to think back to a time when you were really hungry, I come up blank. I can remember being really full but not hungry.
I've just had 1 slice of toast and a glass of orange juice. I left the other slice of toast because I'm not sure if I need it.
I'm taking the ds's to a craft session this morning and am worried about getting hungry when I'm somewhere I can't get food and then the binge that might result in waiting.............................................

HowToLookGoodGlaikit · 06/05/2011 07:38

Glad the positivity is back in thethread! I've no idea why someone would feel the need to come in & stamp on us when this method is very obvioulsy working and helping so many people! All these other threads for WW, SW and Dukan where people are depressed & miserable because they ate a biscuit, yet we are the ones who get the flack? Hmm

Hope you all have a good day!

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TheOriginalFAB · 06/05/2011 07:57

I just wanted to say that the only time I have been able to eat so as to not put on weight was when I was getting married and I was scared I wouldn't fit in my dress. When I was pregnant with my first child I ate well.

But the only time I have lost a significant amount of weight was when I read the book from the plan i was following and it helped me sort out the issues in my head which caused me to eat chocolate, biscuits, etc, eat when not hungry.

SilveryMoon · 06/05/2011 08:10

It's crazy isn't it? Oh well, she voiced her opinion, we voiced ours.

Think i'm going to take a handful of grapes with me to play-group just in case.

It does make so much sense, doesn't it, that our issues with food and over-eating are embedded in our mind, so that should be the area we tackle.

My friend went on the WW diet before she got married and I remember seeing her sitting there working out how many points she expected to consume that day and where she could cut back so she could have a glass of wine! I mean, come on. This is why diets don't work for me. I don't have the will power to cut out the things I truely love. Wine. Crisps. Chocolate. Bread. Pasta. But am hoping I will be able to eat a little less by actually paying attention to what I am doing.
PM is right, I (as a fat person) spend all day thinking about food, but then when I eat it, I shove it in so quick I don't get a chance to enjoy it, and I am not satisfied for long.
I was amazed at how little I could eat yesterday and still not be very hungry this morning. Just goes to show ey?

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