Paul McKenna WILL make us thin! Part 4.

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Firstly, the Golden Rules

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONCIOUSLY
4. STOP when you are satisfied

Here is the book on Amazon which is all you need to get started!

This is the tapping technique explained - this can be useful for cravings.

Please feel free to join us :)

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So, I have a question about listening to the cd..............you know when he tells you to count down from 300, which btw I found quite difficult , do you continue to count down until you get to 0 or are you supposed to stop when all the repeating/echoy stuff has stopped and then liosten to what he says?

Silvery I want to know that too! Sometimes I start drifting off and then almost shake myself awake to carry on counting! I have not managed to stay awake til the end though, am always a bit surprised when he says wake up...

I struggle with making my children eat at a set time when I don't but they seem to be fine with it. Would it be realistic to let everybody eat when they felt hungry? What would you do about cooking? I never make DCs clean their plates but I do worry about forcing mealtimes on them. They don't seem to mind though, maybe children self-regulate better than we do?

Oh. I didn't wake when he said wake up. I put the disk on at 10pm and woke jut after 11pm, the disk only goes on for 30mins doesn't it?

Re counting - on one of the other cds he says "don't worry if you lose count, just pick up where you left off, or just drift" or something like that. It really doesn't matter - the point is to distract your conscious mind.

I count rather than listen to what he says, and I am asleep usually by 280 I always wake up when he shouts 3, 2, 1. It seems very loud to me!

Ok, I'll try to count but if I lose my way I'll just drift. I think it was working, as he said "you may feel one hand become warmer than the other" I was thinking 'oh yeah' and then found it difficult to move my arm to scratch my face. Either that or I was so tired! But maybe not if I didn't hear him telling me to come out of it.

Today is going ok so far. I had breakfast because I thought I was hungry. Normally I'd already be snacking but have had a glass of water and am fine. The 'hunger' feeling that I get, today, seems to be coming from my throat rather than my stomach, so maybe it is that simple, maybe that's all I've done wrong, thought every little feeling in my body is asking for food. But I have not eaten for 2.5 hours and I'm still alive and feeling ok.

I just watched a bit of the free dvd, the ds's weren't enjoying it so they are now watching Flushed Away.

Dinner tonight is Spag Bol so think I'll dish myself up a toddler size portion and start putting a jug of water on the table. I used to do that (the water for everyone) but got out of the habit when I started work and kids were eating at CM's. Now I am back at home, I can make more of an effort again.

Anyway, better get cracking.

Hey Ladies. Well, I've had a terrible time over the last couple of weeks. DP has been naughty and spent all our money, so reverting back to type, I think I've overeaten quite a bit over the last 2 weeks :( However, I really don't think I have eaten as much as I have in the past in these times, so still a little bit of progress (trying to stay positive) I got the 5 CD set from Ebay (before I realised how skint we were.....) and have just uploaded them to my phone to listen to- any idea what order is best? Hope you guys are all ok. I'm going to read the thread properly now, and am looking forward to getting back in control!

Thanks mintcake and greentoes. Think I'll get the app as I use my iPhone all the time so will at least have it with me. I'm also an instantaneous gratification-type person so this means I dint have to wait while it arrives in the post. Wonder if the instant gratification is related to how I eat. Something to muse on...

Hey MV sorry you're having a tough time. Hopefully your efforts here at least make you feel a little better. No advice on the cd set - I don't have that yet.

I find the discussions on counting really interesting. I have found sometimes that I am actively listening and don't fall asleep. Maybe that's because I'm not concentrating on counting enough. I'll try that today. I've never gone beyond about 275 before I fall asleep or lose track of counting.

I mostly listen to the trance session in the 'secrets of naturally thin people' C.D.Is there is a mistake in one of the C.Ds in the free set we got at the seminar anyone else noticed?

Silvery of course you're right about my DD; it's so good to hear you others not forcing yr DCs to finish everything on their plates; ex DIL does to my GD and it makes me very.

I had a discussion about meal times with a friend of mine a while ago. there are 3 of us who are very close and 1 friend makes her dc's clear their plate. She says it's to make sure they eat enough but me and the other friend both feel that this will prevent them from listening to their bodies and recognising when they are and are not full.
That is where I think me and my friend have got it wrong, from our parents making us finish the whole plate. I had to sit at the dinner table all evening until bedtime if I didn't eat mine. I remember it got to the point where I'd be asking if I could go to bed at 5pm.

Anyway, it's lunch time here, I am not hungry so just having a cuppa. Not in peace I might add. The ds's are annoying the hell out of each other and ds2 is a very angry tantrummer.So atm, ds1 is telling ds2 he is naughty and ds2 is screaming and hitting things. Really don't know how to deal with that, but that is for a different thread.

PP - do you mean the one that says 5,4,3,2 and then never says one? Drives me bats.

Very, very hungry today and finding it very hard.

I was given a Thorntons chocolate bunny yesterday :)

It's gone today :(

shrinkingnora, if you are very, very hungry today then why don't you just eat? Unless, of course, you suspect it's not physical hunger...

shrinking I haven't noticed that one lol I thought he misses a trance section in the craving buster I don't know!Silvery have you ever discussed that awful parenting with them?

Hii everyone, I was interested to read your discussion about listening to the counting. today i listened to the CD for the first time. I was mega stressed after being at a meeting that went a little disastrously wrong. I got home and could have easily eaten a mountain of chocolate, and probably would have done just a couple of weeks ago. But instead I listened to the CD for a calm down! I did find myself thinking - should I be counting? should I be listening to what he is saying? I found it incredibly frustrating when he is saying 2 different things, one in each ear. I feel like I am at home with the DC all talking to me at once! It did stop me grabbing the chocolate though!

Tea time is going to be tough tonight, on a Thursday I cook for between 8 and 14 people, never knowing how many will arrive, so end up doing lots. Tonight is pizza, to be honest I am not keen on pizza, which is sort of why I chose that tonight. I will keep a small portion of the one I do like, though and eat slowly enjoying every mouthful.

I've just faced my biggest weakness - conveyor belt sushi. I only had three plates and even sat for 10 minutes while I finished my tea and didn't eat any more :)

Well, after saying hello yesterday I haven't had chance to buy the book or read anything but in my head I am already doing better. I had a banana and a pear for breakfast, 1 sweet mid morning as I thought why not? Lunch was a salmon salad and 3 thin pieces of malt loaf and tea is undecided as yet.

I am not sure if it is physical hunger. I think I may have been eating things that aren't fuelling me enough for cycling - legs like lead on way home. It's possible that my body is just making its requirements known! Didn't help that it was rice krispie cakes for pudding at school today and they had sent too much....

8-14 people. Good god. I find pizza really difficult because it seems to come with an expectation of overeating (like Christmas dinner!).

Well done QS - do you feel a bit more in control generally?

TOF - that sounds yum. I love malt loaf. Eating it slowly does rather stick your mouth together...

ppea Yes I have spoken to my parents a number of times about how they used to do dinner times and also about their decision to actively restrict sweets and crisps by leaving 1 packet/chocolate bar for me on the kitchen counter and hiding the rest away.
They have both said they were so worried about me not eating, that as a toddler I went through a phase where I'd only eat crisps, cheese and carrots. My mum went to her hv about it and was told it was fine, but she didn't agree so from then on it was eat everything or don't move from the table.
As I got older, this continued and I remember it vividly. i also remember plenty of times sitting at the table for breakfast and out came last nights dinner!
Then all food was restricted, there was no other food but meals.
Then dad moved out when I was about 11 and I took advantage of my mum being the weaker parent and soon I was eating whole packets of bourbons or jaffa cakes for breakfast and a pack of fish fingers for dinner.

I know they did what they thought was best for me, and as a parent I completely understand the worry.
But everytime my dad (jokingly) tells me I'm a fat cow (we have a good relationship) I tell him it's his fault

(End of waffle)

I ended up having a sandwich at about 2, I left a quarter of it though. Still not 100% sure on how to recognise actual physical hunger...............
I did however, manage to give my ds's a caramel shortcake without having one myself Until 2 hours later, then I had to have 2 .

Shrinkingnora - My children love malt loaf too, so I made some. They did not like it at all. It tasted really weird and nothing like Soreen.

hello everyone. I'm still here. I'm just very horribly busy at the minute - everything is going tits up except for the eating which is just fine. I'm wearing size 6 (English 10) Ralph Lauren golf trousers which I bought in optimism four years ago and now fit perfectly.

But I don't know how much I weigh as I packed the scales when I was packing up some things and I didn't label the boxes .

Anyhow, I'm going slowly towards my goal, and I'll get there.

I may be namechanging soon, I will tip off various folks who I am. :)

Oh and my focus has now switched to 'Change your life in seven days' which seems to be fitting better with where I am mentally (i.e. it's not about weight loss anymore).

wmmc - lovely to see you. I bet you are looking amazing! (Would love to know your new namechange when it happens).

SilveryMoon - so for you. My parents weren't as bad as that but I do recognise that childhood eating patterns are part of an ingrained problem. Both my parents are emotional eaters/used food as a reward (still do with DS), we had to finish our plates, I had to eat quickly to "get my share" as I have two older brothers who were always vying for their part of the meal, etc, etc. I'm recognising that it's taking a little time to reprogramme 40 odd years of crap eating patterns, but I'm getting there. Hope it does the same for you.