WEIGHT WATCHERS PRO POINTS - OUR THREADS ARE EXPANDING BUT OUR WAISTS ARE NOT

[Blondeshavemorefun]

STEPPING IN FOR NORMA

Welcome one and all to our 4th thread

If you're just starting out or you've been following WW for a while and you're looking for support you've come to the right place! :)

There are lots of regulars who are well on their weigh (get it! ) and others who have just joined us - we're a mixed bag, all shapes and sizes and all with different goals to achieve but we're all striving for the same thing. We're all here to will one another on with advice, support and lots of cheering!

Androbbob is our resident stat checker and keeps us motivated by totting up the total weight loss each week. !

We're quite fast moving at times so just dive in - pour yourself a or and make yourself at home :)

Ah Chewton....you lucky thing froot...ahhh (someone nudge me out of it!)

Loopyla - you've got to stop looking at it week by week and take an average, and your 1.5lb a week average is highly respectable...

Three weeks ago I gained 0.5lbs
Two weeks ago I lost 5lb
Last week I sts
And this Wednesday's weigh in I am expecting possibly around 3lbs loss (based on my sneaky weigh ins at home)

It goes like that sometimes but as long as the trend is decidedly downwards and the average is good - then so be it?

Hi everyone. I am feeling a bit sorry for myself as was supposed to be going to friends for Sunday lunch today - haven't seen them since DD2 was born, but have had to cancel as DD1 was ill on Friday night and now DH is coming down with something and has taken to his bed. I am currently sitting in a car park with 2 sleeping girls in the back seat as we went for a drive to give him some peace. DD1 has been playing up all day so needed to get out! On the plus side, we were going to have a steak pie Sunday lunch and was dreading the points total! I had a bowl of soup and 2 ryvita with wafer thin ham instead!

LoopyLa hmc is right - I often lose a chunk then sts for a while. Annoying not to lose every week though, isn't it?!

Shoulders LOL on the plus side

Blondes! what were you thinking of? Make sure you point it!

shoulders sorry dd isn't very well let alone dh. Shame you didn't meet your friend but least saved PP

Tilly I know :( very unlike me and no way I will lose next week and will prob gain

Moments of madness - the pizza wasn't worth the 36 PP - that's 2 leggy pizzas :(

Let alone the chocolate

'blondes sobs her Ickle heat out'

Hey all

I am winding down what has been the weekend from hell. My DS is driving DH and me to the brink of lunacy - we're actually so over it that we're both in tears. He just screams and shouts and throws massive tantrums and stops EVERY TIME I say ANYTHING that he doesn't want to here (so basically, all day, as I never say "you can have all the toys in this shop" or "here, have your 237th ice cream of the day")

WW is so far down my priority list at the moment that I literally just want to drink a bottle of wine to myself, and hunt down the secret stash of ciggies and try to blot out this week in general.

If anyone there can tell me that it gets better (he's 3.4), then I really need to here it. We think we do everything right in terms of boundaries, consistency, predictability of consequences, following through with punishments, but it seems to make not a blind bit of difference. At my wits' end, genuinely can't live like this any more. He's been like this since he was 15 months old.

I know this isn't a WW post, but you guys have been so amazing and so supportive on this thread, and I know that everyone is RL is just, frankly, sick to death of (a) my destructive, whirlwind child ruining every social occasion, and (b) of me moaning about it.

Rant over, but crying not

Sorry about the shocking spelling - if I were reading that post, I really wouldn't help anyone who kept writing "here" instead of "hear".

NoWay I'm sorry I'm childless so have no advice to offer just a very big hug. Have some wine as a treat when he goes to bed.

NoWay Oh poor poor you and OH! Is it just extended terrible twos do you think? Is he at nursery yet? Does he have the same behaviour issues there? Just wondering if he's annoyingly good for other people and naughty for you, cos if it doesn't make a difference then maybe there's something else at play like ADHD or something. I'm not an expert though.

My 3 year old can throw SHOCKING tantrums and not stop for hours - those mega ones are rare though and I don't worry about taking her to social occasions. I do all the wrong things like bribe with chocolate which works most of the time - but she always seems to throw a paddy in the most inappropriate places (church weddings/libraries etc. It can be exhausting and make you feel like shite.

JoJo I figured (apparently wrongly!) that because his terrible twos started early that they'd finish early too. Silly me.

His behaviour seems to go through good ad bad patches, but the bad patches are frequent and last longer than the good. He just literally cries and throws a wobbly as soon as I say "it's lunchtime" or "no TV" or "let's get dressed" - it's everything he doesn't want to do. He's also recently started screaming "NO!!" at me before throwing himself on the ground, and this is literally 30-40 times a day now.

He's at nursery 4 mornings a week, and they say he has he moments like all kids, but it's a different environment, one that has FAR more to occupy him than I could ever fit in our house and garden, so he just tends to get on with it there as he can basically do whatever he wants. They don't have to deal with the "put your shoes on" and "get in the car" and "don't pull that expensive box off the shelf in the shop", so I don't think it's as much of a problem there.

We had friends over for lunch today, and he was such a mare that they actually made their excuses and left earlier than they were going to. Maybe they weren't excuses, maybe they were genuine reasons, but if I were them I wouldn't have wanted to spend an afternoon with a child who stropped every 5 seconds, and parents who are clearly at the end of their rope.

noway ((hugs)) very un mn like but tough shit,i think you need one

i shall give you nearly 20yrs worth of childcare experience - he sounds like a normal 3yr boy

he sounds just like my current dc a year ago and also like my ex dc 7yrs ago

current dc is now 5, but from 18mths or so,he was a rascal, weeks he would be very good then flip, once started nursery, he was also a pain as when home he was bored - didnt help he is the eldest in the year and missed full time school by 2 weeks, so should have really been at school in 2009 sept, but instead when last year when 4yr 11 mths and 2 weeks

always said to mb that if she had given birth on time,instead of being induced 2 weeks late, life would have been easier

boys go though terrible tantrums,far worse than girls imho

a lot can be boredom, but also sometimes they get so much negative feedback/response, they think fuck it and just behave badly

i would recommend bribery star charts, they really do work or a marble jar when been good/helpful put marbles in, but also when naughty/not doing as told, then take out in front of him

when jar is full he can have a reward, whether a small toy, cheap dvd/cinema etc

give him 5 mins warnings, as when you need to do something, in in 5 mins im going to turn the tv off/you need to get dressed etc - if need be use a buzzer so when the 5 mins up he hears the ringing and knows it is time,as well as you saying to him

i find easier to get dressed before tv personally

i would also say to him that if he behaves like that when you turn it off, then you wont put the tv on and he wont be able to watch anything

when dc used to threw self on floor, mb and i would ignore and walk out of room -he will soon stop if doesnt have an auidence

messsage me anytime you want advice/moan/ear etc x

blondes, thank for taking the time to write all that and thanks for the hugs - I've also come over all MN-ey and a little weepy that there are such lovely people on here.

There are some things I do already (like the threats with TV about it not going on - and I follow through too!) and walking away from tantrums (although I've not been that good with that this week )

I REALLY like the idea of the buzzer, and of the jar of marbles (so visual), so will try that definitely.

It's soooo good to hear that it's not just my DS that's like this, although it makes me feel slightly more shite that there are other boys like this whose mums just cope so much better than me! But then, that's the story of my life as a mum - everyone else seems to find it so much easier!

i cope as i can walk away every night and drink

please dont think you are a bad mum, if anything, you must be a fantastic mum,as you reliese there is a problem and you want to find a solution x

and visual really helps :)

blondes I am having a and feeling slightly more sane, perhaps like it was all in my head! But I know it wasn't, it's just that weird rollercoaster ride of emotions where you go from wanting to kiss and cuddle them till the end of time to, 3 seconds later, wanting to throw them out the window

sounds like my day every day a few years ago

Loopy.. understand your irritation, but as everyone has said 6lbs is a good rate of weightloss.I find that if I eat my weeklies evenly through the week, my weight loss dips, but a blow out meal once every so often seems to kick start my metabolism and I lose more that week.

Noway.. hope your DS is now in bed and you are able to chill! DH always tells me that our kids smell weakness, so if he senses he is getting to you, then he will try even harder next time. Have you tried just ignoring him ( make sure he is safe, then walk away for a few mins ?) Reading your post again, you probably have tried most things

It sounds to me like you and your DH need to have some "me time" to preserve your sanity. Organise life so you can both have a couple of hours to yourself each week, and go out and do something different, play sport, meet friends, go to the cinema. DH and I both play different sports, so one night a week I go out, and he has sunday afternoons "off". Just gives you time to relax and not be a Mum 24*7

Hope this helps. They say the first 15 years are the worst!

NoWay my DS was a complete mare at that age - particularly from when his Dsis started school till he started. Someone on here recommended [[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Raising-Your-Spirited-Child-Perceptive/dp/0060923288 this book] and it was exactly him. It at least made me feel like I was not the only one

Yo definitely need to divide his time up between the two of you a bit so you can get a break. I know how difficult it is to "leave him to it" as my DS will follow you / shout as you can hear hin everywhere, he can carry it on for an hour if he is really on one, etc. He has always been much much worse at home than at school or out elsewhere, so he does know what is acceptable behaviour!

He is now almost 10 and is loads better - I think he has always been a teenager in his head and now as he's getting nearer to that chronologically it's getting easier.

Ooops! this book

My ds2 was hard work until he was 3 and 1/2
HE improved a lot since then
He is 4 next week and mostly perfect

Bit of a blast out weekend. Sins include a Cornish pasty, Chinese, beer and dinner out (steak and salad only )
But am still a touch lighter than Friday
so refocussed now...
Am going to make some 0 or low point soup.
Dh is away til Friday so can eat lightly more easily.
Will do an hour fast walking on treadmill in 2 bursts and run dogs down the field later.
Dd is poorly so can't get out easily today :(

BTM and piffle thanks again for helping me feel like I'm not alone! I'm so pleased that it's not just me, as most of his friends are just so much more sedate than him.

I guess all the qualitied that make him "challenging" now will stand him in good stead when he's older, so that's something to cling onto!!

Also not a great weekend - kind of ate with gay abandon, as they say! On the menu were things like Guylian chocolates, wine, hot cross buns, etc. THANKFULLY I hadn't used any of my weeklies before the weekend, so I've tracked everything and I've got 14 left. That's the second fewest number of weeklies I've finished a week with, so will be interesting to see WI tomorrow morning. Last time I ate this many, I gained...

In all honestly, I wouldn't really care if I put on though - this weekend I needed to be irresponsible in some way, as I've had to be so controlling with DS, and if that "letting hair down" costs me a lb or two, it'll be worth it. I can always start again with my new points tomorrow.

Sorry that I hijacked the thread - back to business!

How was everyone else weekends?

I have 10 weeklies only!
I am doing exercise points as using them first so hopefully will build it back up a bit
I reset on Fridays weekdays are usually ok

Well I have no weeklies left, and lost count at the weekend so usual drink-related disaster really. Don't mind too much as it was a social thing, and now that I've changed my weigh in day to friday I have all week to be a good girl and no temptations on the horizon. Find it much easier in the week.

Reckon I am about 12st 8lb now so if I have a big push I know it is possible to be in the 11s a week on friday. Which would be a massive massive motivation as I haven't been in the 11s for about 7 years!!!!!

So started off today with a 7.30am wii workout. Feeling smug.

OH NO!!!! Just remembered I have to go to 2 children's parties this week!!!!!!!!! Just when I though there would be no temptation. Am actually going to have to exercise self-control in the face of cake.

NoWay hopefully you are feeling better now - great advice from Blondes.

Going to make a batch of veggie chilli today, need some low point dinner in the fridge.

NoWay - both of mine went through phases of being absolute swine. DD had the terrible twos when ds was just a tiny baby so I went through about 6 months of not leaving home unless I had another adult with me to help manage dd (because I couldn't run after her at speed when I had ds in his pram). I vividly recall thinking she was worse than other children - she used to become so enraged she would literally foam at the mouth . She was improved by 3.5

However ds was a breeze at 2 years old and became an awkward little bugger aged 3-4. He improved when he went to school and was subject to more discipline both at home and at school (I guess what happened was that what I was doing at home was reinforced by the teacher in class)

morning all :)

hope we are all feeling a bit better

i said it before, but when someone has their wi and loses/gained/sts can you say how many weekies you ate lease if you dont mind

i cant seem to eat all my weekies or i gain or sts but was wondering who does eat them every week and always loses iyswim

after my pizza and choc blip, i seem to have 15 left so wont touch those all week

jojo take a ww cake with you or some low fat homous and carrot sticks so you dont nibble at the partys

Blondes - I eat all of my weeklies every single week, and although I haven't lost every week (I seem to be a two week person lately with a bigger loss every second week) my average weight loss is 2lb per week

I do exercise 6 days out of 7 though (have my own gym in the garden!) and don't tend to eat exercise points