Use of MJ at healthy weight

[TheBlueDeer]

Anyone on here who has obtained MJ by lying about their already healthy weight etc? I’m v curious to know your experience, have you only needed the lower doses, did you stay on it for maintenance etc etc

All the bargaining - that’s a brilliant way to describe it. I’ve never thought of it like that before.

For me, I have spent most of my adult life on or off a diet. I know how to eat healthily, count calories, macros, you name it - none of that was the problem - it was staying on the weight loss plan long enough in order to make a serious dent in my weight. So I’d ’start a diet’ on Monday and by Thursday would be hankering after carbs or cake or ice cold Sauvignon (pick a thing) but I was never able to just have a bit, nope, it had to be a full meal with all the treats. I’d bargain/tell myself I’d been good for 4 days so I deserved a treat and I’d get back on it on Friday but of course, Friday is nearly the weekend and you can’t be on a diet over a weekend. I’ll start again on Monday and so on.

The thoughts were so powerful it just wasn’t possible to swot them away. It was constant, perhaps almost like a form of intrusive thinking. Once I’d decided I was going to have that ‘treat meal’, wild horses would not have been able to stop me. I would then think there was something wrong with me, did I have some kind of OCD/chronic self destruct button? And that would make me feel like a failure too and of course, the best antidote for feeling rubbish? Food, of course! It’s so weird and hard to describe but it is/was completely exhausting and self-defeating. I’d say that for most overweight people, their struggle is far more likely to do with the mental challenge rather than the physical one.

Within 24 hours of starting MJ, the silence in my head was almost gloriously deafening. I could feel physically hungry and I just think, ‘I’ll have some chicken and salad’ instead of drooling over the thought of chocolate eclairs or a roast dinner. Even now if I fancy a treat, I can have a small bit and not feel remotely like I need to finish the lot. Incredible really! Have lost 4 stone and have another 2 to go. I’ve changed my whole approach to eating and have also started with a PT. I hope that my newly developing love of my emerging body will be what I need to keep me on track post MJ.

Anyway this is not the point of this thread!

Within 24 hours of starting MJ, the silence in my head was almost gloriously deafening. I could feel physically hungry and I just think, ‘I’ll have some chicken and salad’ instead of drooling over the thought of chocolate eclairs or a roast dinner. Even now if I fancy a treat, I can have a small bit and not feel remotely like I need to finish the lot.

This is why I would love to be on some kind of permanent low dose that cuts out the noise.

Recently I had some kind of mad menopause related hormone surge, or maybe it was a virus, but I completely went off food for about a month. Normally I get home from work and have a coffee and slice of toast but with this, I'd look at the toaster and genuinely think, Nah, I don't want it. It was completely bizarre to me!

None of the 'I know I don't need this slice of toast but it tastes so nice and I deserve a treat for making it through the day, and I promise I'll only have one slice even though I know I'll want another slice and probably will have another one or maybe i should have some plain rice cakes instead because I know I'm really only going to eat toast out of habit or should I just have coffee and try and ignore the toast, but toast is so niiiice I really want it and I deserve a treat...' and on and bloody on. Jeez!

Good it got sorted for you.

My BMI was 28 when I started MJ. On HRT. I would have lied if it had needed to be 30.

Turned out Cloud Pharmacy accept perimenopause as a condition. They’re not the cheapest, but well run and easy to use.

@SexyFrenchDepression yeah I'm quite a bit lower than that,also it's cheaper but thanks

Quite a bit lower than BMI 19? Then you're underweight and shouldn't be on it at all surely?

@SexyFrenchDepression of course not! which is why I'm not taking it legit,?!? 😒

I get that you're not taking it legit but I don't understand why you would be taking it all if so underweight.

And thinning hair or hair loss.

Mine is awful. I always had great hair.

Following. How can I get it? I’m technically at a healthy bmi but med express need a video and photo from me?

@SexyFrenchDepression oh ok yes, it's for the many other benefits,mainly brain calm.

Use one that doesn’t require a video

There's only a few that will start a prescription at a lower BMI (as opposed to switching from a higher starting point) and I think they all require video consults.

Obviously you have to say you weigh more

i was bang on BMI 25 (had just returned from an Indulent holiday so likely water weight as well) I’m two weeks in and lost 5lb on a micro dose. I’ll use it for 2/3 months max and I’ll go up then taper back down. For me it makes eating well simple, I focus on protein and have drastically increased my water intake. I was also creeping into drinking 5-6 nights a week which I’ve cut back on. I went through Voy

Well yes but I don't think there's many companies who will prescribe just on what you say - the ones that prescribe for higher still require photos and ID? Unless it's somewhere dodgy.

Contact The Healand Clinic. Or there are other private dr led clinics too that offer it based on your whole medical profile, not just bmi. The only draw back is that they are not cheap. The cheap online pharmacies are more strict about bmi as they have a high volume, low price model. Private Drs are low volume, high price.

The Harper Clinic is another one. They focus on GLP1 benefits in perimenopause.

If you are so confident then why can't you lose the weight without drugs in the first place?

Doctors shouldn’t prescribe drugs that bring people from a healthy weight to an unhealthy weight.
It is a problem if they’re doing that.

Why do you care? If @PinotPony wants to use a method that helps her control her weight in a sensible manner, why shouldn’t she?

Maintaining a weight is very different from losing weight.

There are many legit pharmacies who will give you the jabs on photos even if you alter your weight. Just google it.

It seems weirdly inconsistent. I only did photos with Voy but I know others needed more than that.

Well you can - just lie. I did. Its easy. BMI23/24 and want it to stay at 20/21.

This thread shows how typical it is for a few to potentially ruin it for those of us who actually need the drug. I hope the pharmacies start cracking down on the liars.