Coming off the Jabs - please tell me what happened?

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I’ve been off Mounjaro for 2 months now. I got down to my target and started to worry about the injections so decided to stop - I’ve gained 5lbs in that time.
Currently trying to maintain by counting calories (1350 a day) 10,000 daily steps plus running 5K x3 times a week.
Was anyone able to maintain following a similar pattern?
I’m sure the 5lbs gained has gone straight to my stomach and hips, but otherwise I still feel quite lean.

Any advice and tips welcome!

TIA

@Sal7252 tell me more!

Download the ChatGPT app, tell it what you want to achieve and let it guide you. Simple as that.

I started to gain weight and couldn’t get a March to agree so went down another route to get it, have then been on it for another year on a low dose to maintain which costs me about £50 a month (and yes I know what I’m doing, yes I’m safe). Came off end of December to prepare for surgery and just started eating again. Had my body recoup surgery two weeks ago, still off it so that I can heal properly. I’ve eaten everything I can lay my hands on! I’m trying my hardest by getting rotisserie chickens in but the food noise is currently food lust.

I always knew that would happen, it’s my mad ADHD!

I’ll be back on in a weeks time and will hopefully have not ruined all this money I just spent on a super invasive tummy tuck

Well done OP for getting your body into the fitness mindset by running. Motivation, commitment and consistency is important for any weight management programme. What you need to do especially after weight loss medication which causes some lean muscle loss is to do strength training in the gym e.g. lift weights. Strength training is generally better than running alone for long‑term weight maintenance because it preserves and builds lean muscle, which raises resting metabolic rate and stabilizes body composition; combining both strength work and regular cardio gives the best results.
Strength training preserves and increases lean muscle, and muscle tissue burns more calories at rest than fat, so keeping or adding muscle helps maintain a higher baseline energy expenditure. This makes it easier to stay at a lower weight without a severe calorie restriction. Progressive resistance training also improves insulin sensitivity and body composition, meaning the scale may stay stable while fat percentage drops. I suggest two days strength training and one day running and eat more protein rich meals e.g. whole grain porridge, oats and granola, meat like chicken breast, tuna in water, pork, lean beef (grill, bake poach), avocado, pomegranates, protein desserts like yoghurts and natural greek yoghurt etc

Yes some allow up to a year, look at maintence pharmacies on monj.co.uk, and email a few and ask. Also weigh yourself at the end of the day and clothed as 22 maybe the cut off for some, and you likely are that at rhe end of the day,

I thought I was posting on the other WL thread is it really a issue for you

Yes - as long as you evidence of previous jabs although many of the maintenance clinics have minimum BMI of 22 (some 21). I use Swift can’t remember what theirs is.

I was 9 stone 2 coming off wegovy to conceive in Nov, fell pregnant immediately and have gained over a stone up to 10 stone 3 now at 12 weeks pregnant. I think I would’ve gained regardless but obviously pregnancy has played a part in that!

I never intended to stay on MJ but reading this I know I’ll end up on it for life. I lost 6st but even on between 7.5 and 10mg I’ve only lost a few pounds in the last year. I’m now on 5mg but I’m constantly hungry and it’s getting worse week on week. I’d have no chance going without the jab.

Trying to understand those that stopped and gained weight - did you just stop, or titrate back down slowly? I titrated up over a year and am doing the same in reverse as I come off - apart from gaining 5lbs at Christmas (which I have now lost) I have had no issues maintaining.

I can’t eat as much as I hoped but realise I need to do some weight training and increase activity levels as this was a factor in gaining the weight in the first place (I have a sedentary ‘job’ as a PG student, parental uber etc, although i do walk the dogs). I think people underestimate how menopause and aging impacts the metabolism - I know I have to do 5:2 and follow a lower carb/high protein diet for life now. Am hypothyroid and had PCOS [latter not supposedly an issue post menopause, but am not convinced].

ETA I lost 6.5 stone over 15-18months

There's a lot of magical thinking about willpower on here which completely ignores the science about obesity. It's very frustrating. Dr Giles Yeo is really good on this - he says that obesity needs to be treated as a chronic disease with periods of remission and relapse. Follow the science and ignore anyone who doesn't, is my advice.

Try eating two meals a day and get lots of exercise

Really good to hear it’s possible, and how. Thank you!

This is the horrible truth

My TDEE is 1550 at a BMI of 26, a smidge less at BMI 25

It is what it is.

Exercise makes me ravenous so although I might do around 200 cals worth of exercise a day, the temptation is to eat more than that, I try not to. I find exercise and rushing around counter productive. makes me want to eat

Same here - 2 meals, low carb/high protein and working on weight training to boost my metabolism. It IS about lifestyle and diet changes. I just accept I can’t eat UPFs/Carbs/sugar any more.

I put a stone back on in a month

I think the reality is its life long isnt it, shouldnt people be in a lowish dose to maintain, providers should help with that

This really should be on the NHS

I mean this politely but weight doesn’t magically come back on. Part of that weight will be water due to increased carbs or salt, but to gain a lb in weight you need to eat 3500 cals more than you need. So you must have increased what you were eating to significantly above what was required to maintain your body weight,

as said, it is incredibly hard to maintain, it takes daily dedication to eating only to maintenance.

What kind of exercise are you doing? Cardio will make you hungry and won't grow your muscles. Lifting weights for hypertrophy doesn't even need to involve a particularly raised heart rate but it will grow your muscles and increase your resting metabolism and TDEE.

This is an interesting discussion. I think it’s normal to put on weight as we age. The few post menopausal women I know who are still slim in their 60s work hard for it through careful diet & exercise.

Partly I wonder if we would be happier just accepting we aren’t all meant to be slim? That’s a fine balance though because I also appreciate that being obese has health risks. For me I feel like being a size 16 is ok. Though I would love to be slimmer and am always drawn to thinking about weight loss drugs & whether they would help or hinder my relationship with food.

I expect @Fancycrab is well aware.

I don't completely understand this (I am obese, btw, if anyone is interested, but haven't taken medication). Why do people regain weight after stopping the medication?

Was @Fancycrab asking why the weight had come back on? Or were they simply answering the OP's question about what had happened to others who'd stopped the jabs?

My husband came off two months ago and has upped his running to five times a week plus weights. Seems to be working.

My long-term plan is to go onto the maintenance phase of the fast diet - 11-7 eating window every day plus complete fast once a week. Will also row and do weights 3-4 times a week.

You don’t understand why I, someone at the start of a weight-loss journey, would find it dispiriting to read how hard it is to maintain weight-loss at the end?

Or you don’t understand why the regain happens??