Plodders Club 🐌

[PlodAlongPolly]

Hi,

Anyone on WLI and in the slow lane v. welcome here for a bit of plodding supportive chat!

Plodders, bobbers, plateau-ers, stallers and stuck ducks come on in! Would be great to chat with others who are in the same boat, ie travelling at the speed of snails on their WL journey.

I have a mountain to move (nearly 5 st), am not ready to give up on Mounjaro yet and would love a bit of company here on this long haul to reach a healthy BMI. 🦥 🐌 🏔️

Come join me if you have a long way to go (either due to slow losses or amount to lose) and would like some peer support to keep going when the scales are being stubborn. It’s hard being on WLI when it’s not working as well for you and progress is slow or stalled. This is a safe space to share anything, the good, the bad and the side effecty. Anything positive (scale or non scale related) as well as freedom to vent and grumble as much as you want

If you taking WLI and trucking along nicely or nearly at your goal weight that is fantastic but please post on a different thread.

I'm only losing a 1lb a week, started October, but since Xmas eve I started drinking more water on top of coffee, as i rarely did for decades, and I definitely noticed a difference. I had a 2 week plateau again at start of feb, hadn't been looking after myself, eating more carbs at every meal and not drinking extra water other than cups of coffee. Within a few days of extra water and less carbs, I dropped a kg easily. Would be great of we can all pass on tips to each other that work.

Sorry I missed this msg. I've just taken my 2nd jab of 10mg yesterday. I went up a bit slow on some taking half doses to bridge the doses, as starting off I had a lot of anxiety and low moods, so was afraid it would happen again but it was probably due to other situations going on same time. I took 2 pens of 7.5mg as I thought it was suppressing OK but the 2nd wore off 2 jabs in so rest was will power.

I do have prediabetes and insulin resistance so I think this is why I'm a slow loser, I think 1lbs a week is slow compared to lots of others! I think I needed higher dose as they wore off quickly for me and my body needs higher insulin, the 10mg seems very good so far with suppression but also keeping my hypoglycaemia stable, I've had them for around a decade maybe, get shaky, mood swings, brain fogs when I don't eat regularly, which is hard when you commute 82 miles a day and work 37.5-40.5 hr weeks on top. I've commuted far distances a lot over the decades, some places 135 miles a day, so I don't exercise too as when I get home 6.30pm it's time to cook to eat.
I do notice when the jab wears off at end of the week I'm back to irritable, shaky etc feel like Jekyll and Hyde.
I started at 13st bmi 32.4 now I'm 11st 6lbs bmi 28.4 exactly 5 months today.
Carbs is my weakness, I only eat around 1000-1200 cals a day so would expect higher losses. Are you calorie tracking?

Hi everyone, thank you so much for your messages and replies, I am so encouraged reading them! It looks like there’s quite a few of us out there, so hopefully this thread will be a good meeting place for us, whatever the weather (moodwise) be it hopeful, fed up, optimistic, frustrated, happy or just meh 🫠 sometimes all in the same afternoon! 🙈

It’s a bit hectic here with the DC so I’ll check in later and reply more. Hope you’re all having a good weekend, is good the see the sun at least ☀️

@ChristmasLightsLover ‘I love how threads make me do things differently. When someone mentioned water, I got up and necked a pint. And have had two more before bed. Makes me realise that I'd not kept that going...’

Oh totally, me too! Actually reading your message made me get up and get some water, necking a pint right now! 😁

I said about the water. It’s really important and does help

remember a lb a week May seem not a lot and slow but over a year that’s almost 4st

so 6mths 2 stone

3mths ideally a stone ish

it’s the beginning of March . See where you all are beg of June so 3mths time

good luck

Ok DC are fed, one napping and the other practicing some groovy dance moves to one of their shows 😆 so have hopped back on to catch up with replies.

Thanks so much for sharing @ChristmasLightsLover ! Well done for sticking with it a full year 👏 👏 a real achievement and v inspiring. Am planning to stay on this for as long as finances will allow, so is encouraging to see how slow losses can stack up over a longer period of time. I weigh about once a week too but has slipped to less since being stuck in a stall. Yeah consistent movement has been an issue for me too, a little loss in Dec then bobbed, small loss early Jan then stall. Yeah I think MFP shows what nutrition groups the cals are covering so hopefully will help give you a good picture. I didn’t manage it for long when I tried a few years ago (basically felt like I was failing to hit my macros and got quite discouraged, that ‘another failed diet’ feeling) but maybe will give it another go. The one I used was a free one called MyNetDiary.

I can’t remember how I found out my recommended cals for height/ weight before but think it is similar to yours - did you use an online calculator?

Good question and I’d have to say I was doing better when the meds were working in the early weeks, didn’t feel hungry and was getting a better balance of nutrition with good amount of protein and vegs and smaller portions as the feeling of fullness was there. The suppression being gone has def not helped :( and lots of food noise, some craving back like sugar. Eating generally has been quite pants but is also down to us having an awful Jan/ Feb as a family too.

Thank you Blondeshavemorefun it has helped to prompt and bring drinking water back to mind!

Yeah a lb a week is still good. Would love to lose a lb a week, unfortunately is just not happening atm. No loss for 8 weeks :(

Taking a positive though that being on MJ has absolutely helped me maintain. Progress has stalled but haven’t gained it all back. Before I would have regained for sure if I was off the wagon so that is a huge benefit, one I’ve overlooked actually

Hi @BackToWegovy 👋 thank you that is so kind. Did you find moving up doses helped you? I would agree it feels like being in the minority when progress is hit and miss, halting or glacial. Do you have much further to go on your journey? You are right, maintenance is better than gains so holding on to that for now!

Thank you I did have a read through the slow losers thread, some good helpful stuff on there. On the whole though I’m inclined to agree with PinkSour that they seem a lot further on with many approaching GW’s or getting close. That’s so great and not to diminish anyone’s success, but is a particular (and peculiar) headspace when you’ve not got very far but have a long way to go, and things aren’t moving along well.

That is a good point about downwards trend, I might look into plotting it on a chart or something to have a look. I tend to shy away from recording progress as in the past as soon as the line goes the wrong way I get annoyed and demotivated! Same with tracking if my cals are over budget or poor macros etc. I don’t think I’d find it a helpful tool right now in all honesty but will put it in the maybe pile for a later date.

Yeah with you on this @PinkSour I was considering just not looking at the MJ threads for a while, but thought it would be better to be proactive and seek out a bit of company instead!

That’s great the second 10mg side effects have gone and I hope they don’t return for you when you go up. I remember reading that someone found the side effects on going up a dose much less when they drank extra water on jab day and the days after, so am planning to do this when I step up. Are you due to go up this coming week?

Yes and agree re: weather!

Hi @DarlingCoffee 👋 Yes you are v welcome, come join us for some plodding chat! Totally get the frustration, and well done for sticking it out since August, that takes a lot of strength and steely will. 9 lbs less than you were last summer and more to follow for sure 🌸 keep going! Sending you a slothy hug 🦥 and here’s to higher doses waking up our systems to get things moving!

That’s great it is doing something for your appetite so that will help against gaining. I joke with myself a bit that if this was the maintenance phase would be smashing it!

I’m more mindful of drinking since starting this and people say it does help. Will actually post it here for accountability, it is 5:52pm and just finished pint 3 (of water that is!)

Hello - yes moving up the doses does help I think or at least going back down in the times of shortage made me start gaining again. I do have further to go although I am perhaps not that optimistic I will get to a healthy BMI. Maybe I will but my next target is halfway through the overweight BMI range.

I get that you guys find the slow losers thread too long running to be very helpful but hopefully the fact the the slow losses have added up over a long time is encouraging. I post on there on the rare occasion I meet a new milestone of which I have a long list all very close together to keep me motivated.

re tracking progress I use the Happy Scale app and weigh daily. It smooths out all the variations and it it interesting to see the long term changes. But yes, if you find it puts you off then there is no point.

I think that’s a good plan for doseage @1clavdivs 👍 I hope it’s ok with @BackToWegovy to quote them here, but feel it’s an encouraging point
‘It is still working for us if the trend is downwards or even maintenance for a while instead of more gains’

I’ve recently, in the middle of this stall, tried to keep in mind where I would have been now without WLI. Which in all honesty is at best no change from start weight and at worst a good stone more or thereabouts, with joints more achey, energy worse than it is now and self confidence too. So looking at the overall trend could be helpful, just to see how far we’ve come. 2 lbs a month is still significant and v well done 🌟

This is great, thanks @Mysticmaiden !

Typing this and onto pint 4 💦 Group momentum is a fantastic nudge, thank you! ❤️

How are you feeling after your 2nd 10mg jab @Mysticmaiden ? Hope you get the good benefits without it impacting your MH. Your losses are great and that MJ is having such a good positive effect on your bloods, win win 👏 Are you planning to stay on it long term, to help keep your blood sugar stable/ health as well as the WL maintenance? I’m not tracking at the moment but maybe will give it another go at some point.

Wow that’s a long commute and working week, you must be tired when you get home. I struggle to exercise and don’t even have long travel to contend with. Maybe the pre-D/ IR makes progress slower, but you are getting there! I can only dream of the 11’s atm, you’re well on the way so keep going!

Well I'm hoping when I've lost enough, my blood sugars and insulin resistance will correct itself, so I won't need it anymore. I've actually not had bloods tested since 2.5 years ago when i turned 40, due in summer for my 3 year healthy heart check. Last time they said I had low haemoglobin, didn't mention the sugars.

If when I reach maintenance, hoping mid 20s bmi as I'm in high risk of health conditions due to ethnicity and family history diabetes and heart conditions, I'll go on an oushk maintenance plan, the £15 a month to rejoin and see how tapering down goes with a stock pile of pens on maintenance calories. I think another stone and a half will take me around there. I might even buy a blood sugar monitor since it affects me so much! If all fails I'll stay on a low dose, hopefully tablets will be released at some point that I can move on to.

Yes I'm constantly tired, especially with chronic anaemia, B12 injections help. I also work in the NHS and recently promoted to a team manager which is even more tiring as I have to resolve staff issues too 🙈 very tired today as its first day of period eugh and my food suppression hasn't kicked in yet, takes 2 days for me, so I just want to snack!

Let us know if drinking the extra water helps 😊

@PlodAlongPolly I'm grateful to you for starting the thread, I haven't found a space to talk until now.

That's a good tip with the water on jab day, I will try it. I have faffed about changing my jab day to get the best effect when I'm most tempted, I think if it were possible, I'd need a jab every 5th day. Maybe going up to 12.5mg will help with that. I have 3 jabs left in my second 10mg so not quite moving up yet. I jump around providers for the best price and had found it takes a couple of weeks to get a pen. This time though I stuck with medicine marketplace and they surprised me by dispatching it the same day as ordering, came the next day.

I like what you said about looking at the overall trend and thinking where you'd be without them. I sometimes despair over the amount of money I have spent but I doubt I'd have lost my 24lb if I hadn't.

Thanks @BackToWegovy that is very helpful to know your experiences going up the doses and sounds promising! Sorry it sounds like shortages disrupted your journey, that must have been v frustrating. I hope you didn’t have to wait too long until your provider was able to fulfil it again and you could carry on. You’re doing great to get through that and back into loss again.

Do you think the mini targets helped you along? I don’t have any atm, drifting a bit so will have a think on this. Maybe a non scale one, something like sticking to 2+ ltrs water consistently this coming week, I think that would be achievable.

Thanks for the tracker idea. I have tracked in the past for a while but stopped when I fell off the diet wagon (did not fancy tracking gains, arg!) If I can get back to losing I think it would be good to start some kind of tracking again.

Yeah is definitely helpful to get a picture of what the future (hopefully!) looks like! I will dip in and out of that one but will prob post here in the main. GW is a distant dream atm and feels quite abstract. I am really enjoying getting this chance to meet you all and have a new found sense of camaraderie! Has only been a couple of days but honestly feeling more bucked up already! 🥲

Yes I'm definitely getting a good vibe and energy from everyone 😊

That’s a great plan @Mysticmaiden and will put you in the best position for blood sugars being corrected as you say. I love this benefit of WLI. I would do the same if I can get to the point of maintenance, with Oushk or Cloud I think. Ah you’ll make it for sure, 1 1/2 stone is not too far out of grasp, keep plodding and this will be your year! ✨

Sorry you’re struggling with tiredness, monthly does not help either, I find desire to snack and sugar cravings spike in the days running up to period, even when the suppression was stronger. Sounds like you have a lot on your plate with work too, hope your week coming up is a good one.

Thank you I will report back re: the water!

Am resolving to set a mini target like @BackToWegovy . As the scales aren’t budging for now am going to make it a non scale mini target of getting in at least 4 pints or more of water (on top of teas/ coffee) everyday next week. I managed it today - yay(!) by counting them properly, rather than half-arsed estimation.

Ah me too @PinkSour thank you for joining, it looks like lots of us are in the same boat and we can encourage each other along the way, and obvs have a place to grumble when we need to too! ❤️ yeah I’ve changed my day around lots too, what is your day? I’m currently on Sunday night, just about to do final jab from 5mg pen then off to bed. Here’s hoping your current dose will kick in more over the next few weeks too, before you step up to 12.5. Next day delivery is super quick, will bear them in mind if I ever need a fast supply!

Yeah it is a lot of money, I try and think of it as a health investment and I think we’ve def saved on things like takeaways and junk so must be a saving there. 24lbs is a still wonderful achievement though so well done you. I don’t think I would have got off my 8 kg (and kept it off) without MJ

I said before you are on a too low dose and should be higher. Go up every month till get good weight loss /suppression

I know you said had to say low due to medical stuff but hopefully that’s sorted now

Can I join ? I feel so seen by this thread !

My journey has been so long ! But I have lost 10 kg in the last year, so that's good. There have been ups and downs, as I had some nasty side effects. I had some investigations to make sure my pancreas and liver/ gallbladder was healthy and was OK'ed to continue.

I've gone very very slowly up in doses so my weight loss hasn't been great.

I'm now on 6.25mg. I spent 6 weeks on 5 mg.

Since the beginning of this year I've lost 5kg. I started the year at 95kg. I reached 91 kg at the beginning of February and I didn't lose any more weight until this week. I'm now at 90kg. It's always like this for me. It's very very slow and painful process to lose weight.

I'm reading the threads where people lose 1 kg per week. To lose 1 kg per week I literally need to stave myself. Maybe eat 600-800 calories a day or less. Which I find difficult, even on mounjaro.

Right now I'm very hungry for example. Yesterday I didn't really eat.

My day looks like this:

No breakfast, just coffee with milk ( which I count calories for ) 150-200 calories ( as coffee suppresses my appetite )

Then I might have a small lunch of salad with chicken or sometimes no lunch. I try not to have lunch. Maximum 400 calories if I do.

Then dinner I try to keep small as well. Focusing on protein and veggies. Again around 400-500 calories.

I know it's not the best approach. Say if I have days where I have 1000-1200 calories- I don't lose weight. Or it's painfully slow. I need to literally go down to 1 meal a day. I lost a lot of weight for my wedding and that's what I had to do. Starve all day. I used to eat some cucumbers for lunch just to fill me up and then salad and chicken breast for dinner.

It's just completely unsustainable though.

Anyway, mounjaro makes it easier to eat like this. But I'm still hungry a lot.

I think I haven't found my ideal dose yet.

I also exercise a fair bit. 3-4 times a week. Exercising makes me retain water and sometimes I don't lose any weight if I'm very active.

It's a mind fuck but I just want to feel like myself again

My goal weight is 65kg. I was around 101 kg this time last year. But it's not even been a steady loss at all. I went down to 92 kg in summer and then I gained 3kg when I had a break. Then I lost the 3 kg quite quickly somehow but then regained it again.

Since my last streak on MJ, which started in October ( when I was 95 kg again ) it took me until February to lose it again.

I have completely given up on ever being able to lose the weight on my own again. As I just can't starve myself as much as I need to without help.

I've tried everything - keto, intermittent fasting, lots of exercise, no exercise and it's just so painfully slow.

I can't ever imagine losing a KG a week unless, I stick to 600 - 800 calories every day and I find that extremely difficult.

Anyway, that's my story. I'm pretty down about it all. I just want to stop looking pregnant !

Oh @leklo I totally hear you! 😢 You’re v welcome here 🌸 sorry for the quick reply (my toddler needs help to be a budgie at the moment 😅) but read your post and wanted to acknowledge and welcome you, thank you for joining and will come back on later when free handed x

Welcome @leklo!

-10kg is better than 0kg or even +10kg but I'm with you in that it's such a grind. I definitely haven't experienced the 'I didn't eat because I just didn't think about it' thing people talk about. I find it way too easy to go over my calorie allowance.

Mini celebration here today, I've hit 25lb lost, a quarter of my initial 100lb loss goal so that feels nice. Also if I stay consistent, I should be at that goal in 24 months which actually doesn't feel like a horrendously long time and before my little one goes to school as I'm so scared of being 'the fat mum' at the school gates and embarrassing her.

I’m a slow loser but given I’m menopausal and my quality of life and health has already improved I’m ok with it.

Been on it since May and lost 3 st 5 lb