January 2025 Starters Thread 4 Let's lose some more!

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So, yesterday I declared myself queen of tortoises as I’d only lost 3.5lbs in 4weeks. I weighed in today to find I put on 1.5lbs so that makes it 2lbs for 4.5 weeks. That feeling of hopelessness and misery is all too familiar and I hate it.

Clearly not a tortoise but I can’t think of any creature which is in reverse.

Intellectually I know it’s not possible I put on that weight in a day, but emotionally I feel despair. It’s that horrible thing of it setting your mood.

I weigh erratically as I’m only at home (where the scales are for - usually - 2 or 3 nights a week, max.

I’ve not told my boyfriend I’m doing this as I don’t want it to define our relationship - it did with my husband who clearly thought I was at fault. But he’s v empathetic (the bf) and he knows when I’m feeling sad.

i can weigh in again tomorrow and I’m trying both to focus on possible good news then - and simultaneously trying to guard against further failure.

Sorry for the epically long post, but I needed to get it out.

Thanks for that link @Jins I read their notes about coming off glp1 and they say if you’ve made lifestyle changes during treatment and have a different approach to food and exercise that you’ll likely be able to keep the weight off. Which in some ways is encouraging, but I’ve been through that process before - lost weight through lifestyle changes, put it back on when life changed around me and that routine I created was no longer sustainable.
I’m hoping what I’m doing now is a bit more sustainable - a gentle 20-30mins at home everyday in the week, and one PT session at the weekend. I’m losing on average 1kg a week which is the maximum rate I’m comfortable with. But I’m barely into perimenopause right now and I think in another 5-10 years I’ll go through a more drastic hormone change where I’ll need another reset, possibly need to review TDEE and muscle composition.

I think of WLI as similar to HRT - and I’d like society to catch up with how perfectly acceptable it is nowadays for women to discuss how they’re on it without judgement.

I’ve had to change needle mid injection as the pen jammed so was grateful I had spare needles. It was fine on next dose thank goodness. My Fitbit is on a smaller hole too.

@Grecianrainbow I have a policy of ordering the next pen up so far so it gives flexibility which means I am on a 5 pen but doing less and have a 7.5 for next time. I don’t think I will do a 10 for the one after though as doubt I will be anywhere near that but will see what is happening nearer the time. My average loss is bang on the 1.5lb a week that I am aiming for. I find my calorie deficit as calculated with Nutracheck and Fitbit is currently working spot on with the 3.5k calorie deficit equals 1lb loss in terms of the average and currently I am target for 6% loss by end of month 2, though I know it could change at anytime.

Friends and weight loss are a strange thing. When I lost loads of weight before it totally ruined what I had thought was a good friendship. One became really argumentative and confrontational towards me and blew up at me about something she totally took out of context but didn’t say anything to the other friend involved, it was really weird.

And congrats on your milestone @Jins

@0ncemorewithfee1ing sorry you’re feeling down about the numbers.
If it helps, ive also had weeks where I’ve gained each day for a few days into the week and then slowly lost it so that I’ve ended up 7 days later at exactly the same weight. It coincided with extreme sleepiness too. Decided I was actually on too low a deficit and needed more energy to move more and keep burning. I’ve also gained in the lead up to a period and over the few days around ovulation. I’m only 7 weeks in, but I’m tracking when the gains happen to see if it’s cyclical for next month and I just have to ride it out, or if I can help tweak with managing my calorie deficit up and down.

@DGonMJ I think I’m going to go with Oushk for my next pen. I’ve been reading their maintenance plans here https://www.oushkpharmacy.com/maintenance

I think either the flex or the taper plan would suit me well as I do really want to come off it eventually.

I’m going to email them today I think and switch over for ongoing weight loss. I’ve got a bit of credit on my MedExpress account but I’m not too worried about losing it.

I ate 1300 calories yesterday, normal level of food intake for me. I was cold and hungry, my office was cold so I came home early to wfh and just couldn't get warm.

Anyway on the way home I called into M&S and bought a Gastropub steak and old peculiar pie for one as I was home alone (I rarely eat pastry so not sure what that was about) and some posh greens thing. Didn't enjoy it but I ate it all!

I've had a sneaky weigh in this morning ..... -1 kilo, clearly a fluctuation!!

Not sure I expect to lose weight this week, I've booked a 9 course tasting menu tomorrow night at a lovely restaurant for an occasion dinner with DCs, and a 5* hotel breakfast the next morning. At least I know that the portions will be tiny lol, plus I don't drink, that must count for something.

@0ncemorewithfee1ing , apologies I missed your post earlier. That is tough, especially when surrounded by a lot of people who are losing on here. Ignore the gain, they happen for no apparent reason sometimes and usually come off in a few days.

Have you gone up to 5 now? It may be that you are one of the people who need to go up a few doses to see much affect. I totally get that doesn’t help now though.

Commiserations to anyone doing a reverse tortoise, we've all been there.

I did my bonus jab of 2.5 today, order is already in for 5. I'm away at the weekend so I'm going to do my 1 month weigh in on Friday. I would be delighted if I could get to 10lb but I think staying at 8lb is more likely, I've been eating more these last couple of days, and not drinking anywhere near enough water.

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Thank you for your reply (and @DGonMJ ). Yes, went up to 5 on Sunday night. I have enough suppression to reduce my meals but still have the same food ‘noise’. Smaller meals and less of them still doesn’t seem to be reaping the rewards. Trying to be stoic and carry on - what else can I do.

Yes Cherryblosson, I had two periods two weeks apart. This happened to me about a year ago too and is the main reason I suspected I'm perimenopausal (I'm 42). The second period lasted ages too, like 8 days!

Sorry, sending hugs 🩷 can totally empathise with you there. I've not lost any weight at all the last two weeks despite tracking my calories to the nth degree and being well under my goal. Despite loads of steps and water. I weighed in this morning and felt pretty hopeless too 😢

I have an underactive thyroid and typically lose quite slow. I think this maintenance is probably cycle related, I'm on the Mirena coil but still get all the same totm symptoms which I have this week.

The only thing we can do is keep being consistent and hopefully it shows in the next few days. If I was on a 'normal' diet I probably would have thrown the towel in and had a binge by now, resulting in a gain and then feeling despair and starting the cycle all over again. With MJ it's just not possible to overeat and I feel it's helping my mindset so much to just carry on! We've got this 💪🏼

@emmsyg it’s a nightmare isn’t it the unpredictability! It must be a combination of being peri and taking MJ.

@0ncemorewithfee1ing sorry you’re feeling down. I wish I had wise words, just wanted to say, keep going and I hope your scales budge a bit more soon.

I’ve a day out planned in a couple of weeks (arranged long before I started MJ). I don’t often go out so would really like to enjoy this (I’ll be in good company, always a laugh). I’m not so bothered about what I’ll eat (happy to adapt and go for a lighter/smaller option) but would like to enjoy a couple of drinks. I’m not a big drinker anyway, bit of a lightweight in honesty, but not sure what effect MJ will have. My injection day is a Friday morning (used to be a Thursday night but my last pen arrived late) and I’d be going out on a Saturday. Do I try and hold off to the Sunday morning and hope I’ve still enough in my system from the previous week to stop me going overboard or do I inject a day early on the Thursday and hope I don’t have any side effects. Haven’t had any side effects on first 5mg dose other than very high suppression for the first 3 days and slight nauseous feeling. It would be my third 5mg dose.

Apologies if this is a stupid question!🙈

I’d inject a day early (I’ve done this past 2 weeks to fit in with being away this weekend). I’ve also had 2-3 drinks and felt fine.

I found the MedEx had quite a short expiry on my 2.5mg, but the 5mg has come with a December expiry.
And yes for extra needles, I got an extra one.

I'd quite happily sink a bottle of prosecco or white wine a night before this (not EVERY night).
I had a glass of wine with DH yesterday (250ml so a big one!) as the DC were happy at home while we nipped to the shops.
Coffee turned into wine (clever how that happens), and as I stood up to leave, I almost fell over!
So I'd stick to small glasses or lower alcohol maybe?

I'd quite happily sink a bottle of prosecco or white wine a night before this (not EVERY night).
I had a glass of wine with DH yesterday (250ml so a big one!) as the DC were happy at home while we nipped to the shops.
Coffee turned into wine (clever how that happens), and as I stood up to leave, I almost fell over!
So I'd stick to small glasses or lower alcohol maybe?

I think that will be the plan. I don’t want to “ruin”
my losses so far or binge eat crisps and other rubbish. And I suppose the aim is to be able to do things like this and enjoy yourself but without going OTT - like a “normal” slim person would.

Do you think I should inject early this week (on the Thursday) or wait and do it next week? I’m not great with decisions 😆

@Constantdieter definitely wouldn’t be strong drinks - at the moment I’m saying I’d be too scared to do that. Hope my good intentions work out 😅

Just clipped this from a Telegraph article:

Hussain says: “This [newer] class of drugs works by mimicking a natural gut hormone (called GLP-1), which is involved in telling your brain that you’ve eaten enough, along with increasing insulin production and telling your liver to use the glucose better.”

So there is something the drug does chemically as well as just suppressing your appetite.

@0ncemorewithfee1ing 🙏, very sorry I missed your post too. Fluctuating is difficult mentally. I hope you see a loss next time you weigh. I’ve fluctuated by 3-4kg for two years despite restricting my food intake and it is so disheartening.

Hi all
I'm new to this and this is my first post. I took my third dose of wegovy last night (0.25ml).

SW: 83.8kg
CW: 82.0kg
GW: 65kg

My BMI was 27.7 and my BP 161/105. I haven't told my doctor I'm doing this, nor my husband.

I am happy so far and seem to have tolerated the wegovy well except that I took my third dose last night and woke up with the sweats and terrible stomach pain and wanting to vomit. I am not sure if it was food poisoning or the wegovy but I will be persisting. Will see how it goes.

Anyway - just wanted to say hi. 🖐
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Does a Thursday fit better for you overall? I’ve moved from a Tuesday to a Sunday, so I can have a few treats the next 2 weekends 🙂

Email to Oushk has been sent. Hopefully they’ll confirm my understanding and I’ll switch over to them