Sustainability. An outsiders question

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I am curious what happens when you lose all the weight. If no lessons about adequate nutrition have been learned do you need to be taking these injections for life?

Thank you. I did not notice your response in between all the name calling.

Thanks as well. This makes sense.

The very first post on the thread answered that for you. With no name calling.

I actually don't know yet. The current plan is to keep doing the activity I've been doing, and as far as the medication goes, all I know so far is that I won't stop suddenly. I've spoken to the pharmacist and they're happy to work with me to see what course of action is best. We've discussed either keeping on the same strength but increasing time between doses, gradually titrating down, or a combination of both.

While you're back here, Twat, could you answer for everyone else why the fuck you care?
I've never considered badgering ex smokers online to ask why they are so thick and what they'll do when they finished a course of Nicorette patches. I'm just pleased for them that there's an option to help them get healthier.
Why do you give a shit if mounjaro works long term or not?

You’ve already received several responses, but I’ll have a go too.

For me personally, I don’t plan on stopping, as this is a long-term medication—just like my SSRIs for depression. If someone asked what I’d do if I stopped taking those, the honest answer is that I’d likely spiral again. Have I learned good habits to manage my low mood? Yes, absolutely. But my SSRIs help me apply those habits every day—without them, I simply can’t, and that’s not my fault. It’s the same with WLIs. Taking them allows me to eat well, exercise, and break free from the binge/restrict cycle.

Some people may choose—or need—to come off them. If they struggle to maintain their weight afterward, it’s not a failure, nor does it mean they didn’t learn good habits or are somehow lacking in willpower. These medications address metabolic, mental, and emotional factors that influence our ability to regulate food intake.

Ultimately, everyone’s journey is different, and there’s no shame in needing long-term support.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

You seem a bit angry. I am sorry if I have triggered you.

I will be on them for life. I am diabetic. I will be taking mounjaro or one of its successors along side warfarin to stop my blood clotting inappropriately and levothyroxine for my knackered thyroid.

Like the other two drugs I take, mounjaro isn't a cure, it helps to manage my symptoms or substitutes things my body can't do on its own.

@Itcostshowmuchnow it is a fair question. Why do you want to know?

Mrs A Twat has generated enough for her own bingo card

Don’t think you have been that successful . Try harder.

I'm curious - what does this mean? Are you also a 'fattie'? If so, are you one of those 'fatties' who believe the only solution to weightloss is eat less, move more; can't manage to do that yourself but eager to preach it to others unsolicited?

If not , are you a 'slimmie' (just made that up, ha!) who's oh so curious about fatties and eager to preach 'eat less, move more' at them because you think they have no idea about this concept?

Option 3: Were you once a fattie but now a slimmie luckily through eating less and moving more, and you believe it applies to everyone. So you're here to do your good deed of the day by preaching to fatties hoping to educate them on this concept and get them off the 'horrible WLI'?

This is funny because I'm not triggered and you're not sorry.
Again though, you aren't keen to explain why you'd like this one, very specific question about WLI answered? You didn't have any questions about how they work, the successes people are having, how people's lives are improving? Just the one question about how they might fail?

She wants to hear we will all regain; so don’t have an advantage over her.

People who have a normal relationship with food ie eat to live not live to eat must think obesity is a lifestyle choice especially when over the years science has told us we are what we eat, apart from the odd person with a health issue of course. Do we disbelieve the science ?

I don't even think it's that the OP wants confirmation for themselves that MJ users will regain; I think it's either someone bored knowing they'll get a reaction with this kind of thread and for some reason needing that kind of attention in their life or it's simply a mean instinct to need to put fat people in their place - even if you lose the weight you're still stupid and weak and greedy and inferior. The not very veiled language and hints of 'if I say what I think there'll be a pile on', the dismissive 'eating too much isn't a disease' and refusal to engage with the WHO conclusions on that, the way they resolutely ignored all good faith answers to the original question until days into the thread, it's all about trying to make sure fat people, even if they lose weight, don't feel good about themselves. I think the only thing we do know for sure is that there was never any actual interest in getting an answer to the question and only in provoking emotional reactions. But every time someone comes on here and posts this kind of unpleasant stuff, a wealth of information and explanation gets posted and I think it's so useful for other posters to see and understand more about these injections and people's experiences on them.

Science moves on and there is better understanding now. The WHO says:

In most cases obesity is a multifactorial disease due to obesogenic environments, psycho-social factors and genetic variants.

I think people often disbelieve science, I think it's always evolving and there is always more to be learned and understood plus we live in an age of so much information and disinformation that it's not all that simple. I don't blame people for believing what they've always understood to be true, but if anyone is genuinely interested in an issue then they should probably go and find out a bit more and consider what sources their information comes from. Simple, catchy slogans like 'you are what you eat' are never likely to give you the full story, it's surface level and banal. There can be truth, or elements of truth in pop science, but there's usually a bit more to it.

I think they are fat themselves. I do think this is the poster who is in her sixties and a bmi bordering on obese, but could be wrong, however I think this is someone who is fat. Can’t get the drugs, and is being goady due to it.

Like the equivalent of internalised misogyny - internalised fatphobia maybe?

My take is they haunt this sub forum, read all the posts about the drugs, and it has become some form of obsession to them. They can’t have the drugs, either due to money, health or both.

the posting style is very very similar to someone who claims to be an hcp in their sixties, bmi 29, claims not to be fat at that weight, claims their weight went up due to medical issues, but feels at pains to repeatedly comment everyone else it is due to poor choices, and harks back to the 50s. Tells everyone they should move more and eat less, that they don’t understand nutrition. Feels they are perfectly healthy at bmi of 29. Won’t let it go, constantly doubling down on it.

as said, could be wrong, and it’s one of the other obsessive, there are a few clearly haunting this sub forum.

I think the problem here is that OP did drip feed rather.

She didn't begin the thread by explaining that she had lost 5.5 stone using Mounjaro and now wanted to know what would be likely to happen if/when she stopped taking it. That came later after she had already got people riled up with her apparent criticism of obese people and the implication that they are lazy and have no idea about nutrition.

I have recently begun using Ozempic (sometimes sold as Wegovy). I qualify for it on the NHS because I am diabetic and have other medical conditions which have all contributed to my obesity. At the moment I don't even know whether or not it will do anything for me as I am still on the starting dose for now.

OP, I don't have an answer, other than that medications are usually long term for me and I don't suppose these injections will be any different.

I'm not stupid though. I do understand nutrition and portion sizes. I'm not lazy either. Eat less and move more is a good idea in principle but doesn't work for everyone. It doesn't work for me, my body just fights tooth and nail to remain as it is.

None of this is a lifestyle choice. I can assure you that obese people (I am one) did not begin by looking at pictures of other obese people and make a choice to be like that. They often have an understanding of them though, and the frequently lifelong struggles they have been going through.

I don't think the OP has lost 5.5 stone @Topseyt123, I think they were just quoting someone else who has in one of their goady relies. OP always uses 'they' rather than 'we' when talking about the fatties in disparaging terms.
I'm pretty sure we'd all have wanted to help someone who the WLI are working for, who has genuine concerns about what happens next. There is a lot of research about the potential to regain but there are also some helpful 'what happens now' threads on the forum.

She was quoting a previous poster, summarising what they said.

OK, perhaps I read that wrong. The rest of it stands though, and if she hasn't gone through the struggles that others of us go through then she has no right to judge and be such a goady fucker.

Obese people (like me) did not make a "lifestyle choice" to be or become obese. Why would we have done that? It makes no sense but it is a trope that is often trotted out.

This is a very complex issue, but that doesn't seem to be understood by people like OP, and their judgement comes across crystal clear.