Has anyone started on a micro dose of mounjaro? How many clicks?

[ByRareNavySwan]

I can’t seem to find out how many clicks to microdose my pen to avoid side effects. 😓

Definitely agree with this too

@ByRareNavySwan I started 2 weeks ago on 2.5mg and 48hrs after each dose had awful side effects, the 2nd dose last weekend wiped me out, very very nauseous, tired, low mood, cold, then vomiting sunday afternoon. At which point I said I was done with it. However Monday until today feel absolutely fine. I don’t want to give up so am going to try 40 clicks shortly which is about 1.6, in the hope it lessens the side effects. Has anyone else done this?

It really does work like that, look at the folks on the kind/fake glp,patches, even knowing it’s fake and they are rubbing cinnamon on their skin they still think it works because they desperately wish it to, the mind is a funny thing,

Well if it works it works I guess. I’ve tried herbal weight loss supplements before and they’ve done nothing so I’m not the kind of person who is able to make things work due to a strong belief in them. The half dose is still working well for me on day 3 - no insatiable hunger like I normally have.
My DP was eating Ferrero Rocher last night and I had one. Normally I love them but they tasted artificial and sickly sweet. So the sugar cravings seem to have disappeared and I seem to do best on natural whole foods. I’m also trying to get 100g of protein per day.

Okay I thought I’d do an update on my microdose results for anyone who doubts it works or thinks it’s placebo. I started on 30 clicks of a 2.5mg pen so 1.25 and now do 40 clicks so about 1.7. My reasons are fear of side effects and also wanting something that I can maintain longer term (if I get total hunger suppression then if I come off it I won’t know how to cope with hunger).

Side effects: very few. A bit of burping but not sulphur burps, just normal ones.
Suppression: initially quite a lot of suppression but now I would say not much. I feel hungry for meals but I don’t have cravings for sugary stuff and am satisfied with healthy stuff. I can eat something and not immediately want to eat the whole packet. I couldn’t do that before.

And now for the results. I know what rate I usually lose weight at because it’s not my first rodeo. My rate of loss on a normal diet (which inevitably id give up after a couple of weeks) was about a kilo a week. I can hand on heart say that taking even a microdose of Mounjaro has led to results that far outweigh my expectations.

I am now 3.5 weeks in (took 4th jab on Monday).
Height: 170cm/ 5’7”
SW: 87.8 kg (193.5 lb or 13 stone 11.5)
CW: 81.3 kg (179.2 lb or 12 stone 11.2)

I have lost a stone in 3 weeks. Gobsmacked. I have been eating around 1600 cals a day so not starving myself. I want to lose another two stone to get to goal weight but I feel so motivated now!

I am not advocating for anyone else to try microdosing but for me it works. I am also going to choose to use my pen for 35 rather than 30 days but again, not advocating for it and it’s my personal choice.

I have had great results micro-dosing on around 15 clicks and have recommended it to my friend who has reported the same. I lost the stubborn peri menopausal stone plus that I couldn't shift, and I feel amazing. I don't actually want to be too slim so I'm maintaining now.

That’s not micro dosing, micro dosing is small quantities more regularly, that’s just taking a reduced dose, significantly so.

Sorry to ask but you didn't have much weight to lose - were you actually obese when you started? Did you get prescribed this legitimately? I'm asking as I don't think it's healthy or helpful for people who were lower weight to start with to be sharing their experiences on this board since their bodies are likely to respond differently to those of us who are/were obese. 'Microdosing' for people who have a small amount of weight to lose might be a thing that is licenced in future but for now it's people using a drug in ways it hasn't been tested or prescribed. Apologies if I misunderstood and you did meet the prescribing guidelines.

That’s great - well done!

You could have checked it using a BMI calculator online before making that accusation but yes, I in fact was obese and I obtained it entirely legitimately. I guess it’s all relative and I don’t have much to lose compared to someone who starts at 20 stone but medically I was an unhealthy weight and in the range where I am at risk of various weight related conditions. Yes, it’s mild obesity rather than morbid obesity but I have been a stone heavier in the past and my BMI then was 33 and if I’d gained yet another stone I would have been morbidly obese.

I did preface it all by saying I was not recommending it - this was MY experience in case anyone found it useful. Microdosing is practiced by plenty of doctors and while overdosing on a drug is likely to be dangerous, underdosing is not (unless you need it for diabetes). Technically 2.5 is a microdose because it’s not at what is deemed to be therapeutic levels. What I’m taking is an even smaller microdose.

I think saying that people shouldn’t be allowed to post unless they fit your criteria of a typical user (even though I actually do as my BMI was 30.4 to start and is still very overweight at 28.1) is taking it too far.

Ah, is it not? I didn’t realise that you also had to take it more frequently because nothing I have read suggests that that is the case. Okay then, it’s a reduced dose.

I think saying that people shouldn’t be allowed to post unless they fit your criteria of a typical user

that is not the least what I said. I asked politely, you clarified, no need to take offence.

Well you did ask whether I obtained it legitimately despite my starting weight being nearly 14 stone (not exactly a low weight). You then said it wasn’t healthy or helpful for people of lower weights to post their experiences on here. But maybe I misunderstood.

Micro dosing is the practice of taking little and often, so instead of taking 2,5 once a week, you’d take 0.8 three times a week.

i guess if you use tne term micro to mean tiny, then yes but the term micro dosing isn’t what you’re doing, you just take a tiny amount weekly and make it work for you. Physically it will be making little to no difference, so more placebo, but if it works for you, that’s a positive.

They discussed micro-dosing on The Morning in fact. Here.

I meant it isn't helpful for people with low starting weights who don't meet the prescribing guidelines to post on here as their circumstances aren't the same as those who are obese at starting. By 'lower starting weights' I meant people under BMI 30/27 not people at the bottom end of obese. I didn't state that you are one of those people, I just asked. Lots of people are getting hold of WLI to lose a stone or so despite not being obese to start with. It's unusual to be obese and only be looking to lose a stone though obviously it is your prerogative to lose as little or as much as you like! It just sounded unusual, hence the question.

Where have you read that it needs to be little and often to be defined as a microdose? Just out of interest because the podcasts and doctors that I follow where it’s been discussed just talk about a lower than therapeutic dose.

As I said before, 2.5mg is also technically a microdose because it’s not therapeutic. However, loads of people lose lots of weight on it and never move beyond it.
I mean it could be placebo but I tend to think I don’t defy the logics of science and on my quite modest calorie deficit, no way would I have lost a stone in three weeks because I haven’t had a sufficient deficit for that to happen. I’ve also done things like Fast800 and low carb and traditional calorie counting in the past and lost nowhere near that in that time. So it is clearly doing something, albeit not at the same levels as if I was taking the full dose. And I’m happy with whatever it’s doing because it’s getting me towards my goal.

Just to clarify, I have lost a stone since starting. I have another two stone to lose. In total, the amount I’m seeking to lose is 3 stone. I did put this in my post. That will take me from obese to healthy BMI.

Yes I did watch this with interest. I don’t think the lady was even in the overweight BMI yet was prescribed this by her doctor which is a bit 🤔 She says in the daily mail that she was “nudging the overweight category”.

I also think the This Morning doctor isn’t totally clued up on the pens in the UK because you very much can administer smaller doses with the clicker whereas in America, you can’t. By the way the doctor on here seems to define microdose as taking it less often, not more often (or just a lower dose). So it’s the opposite of what the pp said on here.

@Dietingfool I don’t know where you’ve got that idea - there is no official definition of microdosing that suggests it means little and often.

In fact the term ‘microdosing’ grew in popularity a few years ago as more and more people started experimenting with psychedelics and in that world it means taking a smaller dose (often 1/10th) to give a sub-perceptual effect that is still beneficial.

With GLP-1s similarly the idea is that you can often get benefits from much smaller doses. I’m sure you can also try taking that dose more often than weekly, but there’s no official line on what it means, especially as - like with microdosing psychedelics - it’s often something that the user is doing independently because they think it suits them to experiment in this way.

Um yeah there is.

I’m not quite sure what the right word is to describe someone who enjoys telling people with great certainty (but very little authority or knowledge) that they’re WRONG, but I do know what microdosing means.

i am not sure, you can look it up if you feel you need to label yourself.

But taking it more often wouldn’t be a microdose would it? It would just be splitting the dose. Anyway this is the definition from the Oxford dictionary:

a very small amount of a drug used to test or benefit from its physiological action while minimizing undesirable side effects

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Micro dosing comes from psychedelics, where people took a tiny fraction of the dose on a very regular basis, that’s the basis for it.

micro dosing is not, taking an irrelevant and non impactful amount of a glp 1 once a week and using the term as it hit the internet and is seen as trendy.

however if folks want to think they are micro dosing fair enough. It is irrelevant. I’m off to cut a nurofen in quarters and micro dose that.