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Discuss weight-loss injections and treatments, including personal experiences. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any treatments.

Mounjuro August starters - thread 10 !!!!

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Blondeshavemorefun · 23/12/2024 21:40

Crazy we have come this far

Heading to 5mths - that's almost half a year

We have all done so well.

Be proud of ourselves

Yes we have Christmas Day to come but remember that eating a meal and some yummy stuff isn't going to make us all gain the weight back

We have to have some treats or else what is the point in life

Saying we are never going to eat ...... again isn't sustainable

But having one /small portion of something we want is a good thing

We have learnt restraint !!!

To 2025 one and all

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Blondeshavemorefun · 14/01/2025 21:24

Maybe we all can as eventually prices will go down surely x

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Motnight · 14/01/2025 21:25

I watched the Panorama documentary. I thought that it was quite balanced. Interesting that neither of the 2 very overweight people lost huge amounts of weight.

MrsHerbs79 · 14/01/2025 21:32

I haven’t watched the documentary but I think the issue with NHS prescribing it is that the majority of people will do the bare minimum and expect weight to fall off and that it’s an easy route. Don’t get me wrong has been a very effective weight loss tool for me but deffo not easy and still requires will power and commitment. The other thing that concerns me is that ‘healthy’ eating isn’t cheap……..so you may not be paying for the jab but unless that holds hands with better choices then a bit of a waste of resources…….make clean eating more affordable xxx

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/01/2025 21:35

Agree

but if paying for it more likely to try harder

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WorriedRelative · 14/01/2025 21:36

Slimhopes · 14/01/2025 21:11

Evening all, just catching up on the thread as work has been busy. And I’m struggling for work clothes that fit properly as the first top I put on today looked like maternity wear😛 that’s great about the vinted jeans and pp photos looked amazing! And @AuntieDote experience is a helpful reminder about life outside of MJ and the struggles, definitely my worry as I can’t afford to stay on MJ forever.

There is news today that a tablet form could be available by next year. That is likely to be cheaper.

NippyCrab · 14/01/2025 21:59

God yeah we has the same conversation about food being so expensive, but you can get fast foods for 99p, I eat a lot of fruit, berries bananas dates etc and it's bloody expensive. DH thinks that because I've paid for these jags I'm determined to stick to it more, it's like physio, if you get it free the majority don't do the exercises, if you pay privately for any sort of session you do the work!

NippyCrab · 14/01/2025 22:01

How would a tablet process in our bodies compared to the jag? That would be interesting for me to know re absorption.

owlyboo · 14/01/2025 22:02

Fab @Weepixie and @PoemsForTea

Well done @MrsHerbs79 looking great!

Slimhopes · 14/01/2025 22:28

@WorriedRelative i hadn’t seen that re tablets, that’s encouraging.

20bloodypounds · 14/01/2025 23:16

I can't remember if I posted on here or another thread, but I find it fascinating how much control we (on private prescriptions) are all taking over our own MJ journeys.

The people on the original clinical trials, and those on an NHS prescription are following a specific regime. In a clinical trial there is no room for any variation, and most people on an NHS prescription will follow the advice of their GP - and the GP will be following a recommended protocol (and in their busy work will understandably not have time to research microdosing etc.)

I have a friend who was on NHS prescribed Ozempic but has given up because of the adverse side effects as the dose increased. That's it, back on her previous diabetes meds, no discussion of a variation in regime.

If I (or any of the other MJ weaklings) had been on an MJ clinical trial we would have dropped out early, and all that would be recorded would be adverse side effects - there's no option in an ethically approved trial to make variations mid-study - so no-one looking to see if continuing on a low dose might be a possibility. Clinical trials just cannot be designed with that kind of structure.

We are all part of a different process - citizen science - where real people are making real decisions, reporting real results and contributing a huge amount to the increasing body of knowledge. We all deserve a pat on the back for the part that each of us play in that by posting about our challenges and triumphs, our worries and our experiences.

There are threads about what people eat, how they split doses across months, how they manage adverse side effects, how they are managing the end of their weight loss journey... Of course this happens on any specialist health forum but it is often build up slowly over years. Here, and on other MJ forums, this is happening rapidly.

Encouragingly, what we are seeing is the private prescribers responding to citizen science - the emerging maintenance plans are a great example. The original clinical trials had maintenance on 15mg, however, prescribers are being flexible about what people think they actually need (and because it is lower doses they will feel confident that there is very little risk), and now we are even hearing about microdosing. I believe this is the first time this (citizen science) has happened on such a huge scale, and so quickly, in relation to medication. [It has been part of tech development for a long time].

I also think this is a step change in empowerment for us regarding how we adjust prescribed medication (private or NHS) to suit our own bodies - and as we see from MJ, we are all so different. If it's like that for MJ, then of course it's going to be like that for other medication. I was on medication for high blood pressure, managed to make lifestyle changes and reduce my bp, and reduce my meds. If I took no meds my blood pressure was pretty unstable, and therefore quite dangerous. If I took half a tablet daily everything was stable. But the half tablet was 'clinically ineffective' (or not tested) so my GP can't prescribe a half dose. So I get a full dose and throw half away. What a waste!

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/01/2025 23:42

NippyCrab · 14/01/2025 22:01

How would a tablet process in our bodies compared to the jag? That would be interesting for me to know re absorption.

guess similar to pill v implant

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Blondeshavemorefun · 14/01/2025 23:50

This is interesting. Had a quick google. There is a pill out for diabetics but hasn’t been tested the way mj has been for weight loss

Rybelus

https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/diabetes-type-2/mounjaro-vs-rybelsus#

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FlappingMadly · 15/01/2025 00:11

@MrsHerbs79 looking fab!

All good points @20bloodypounds
We are a reflection of changing attitudes to health care . When I was considering MJ I was amazed at how many tests and treatments are available to buy now. Research is accessible.

Panorama perps - , I.don't think it's about paying for it. More that we were self motivated to explore and jump.in. And those on Paronoma had it imposed. For good reasons but still not under their own steam. And they were being managed so probably very NHS ideas of 3 of how 3 meals a day should look.

Ithinkimrincewind · 15/01/2025 06:14

NippyCrab · 14/01/2025 09:16

@owlyboo howling here, a family of 5 lol. Gosh that's a lot of weight to add on isn't it.

@MargoLivebetter my swimming bag has been packed for a year 🙃 I joined last January and bought 2 new swimsuits 🩱 it makes me feel daunted because if I'm swimming I can't see without my glasses and i can wear contacts. There's one instructor led class and I've been told not to do that which is pants! I'm definitely going tomorrow afternoon, it will be fine, I won't die if I can't see xx

@nippycrab If you check Amazon you can get prescription goggles really cheaply which may help?

Weepixie · 15/01/2025 06:43

@20bloodypounds - what a fabulous post. Thank you.

Weepixie · 15/01/2025 06:46

There’s an article in the DM today about BMI and the new approach to it that some practitioners are already using. This picture explains it better than the article does

Mounjuro August starters - thread 10 !!!!
Motnight · 15/01/2025 07:25

NippyCrab · 14/01/2025 21:59

God yeah we has the same conversation about food being so expensive, but you can get fast foods for 99p, I eat a lot of fruit, berries bananas dates etc and it's bloody expensive. DH thinks that because I've paid for these jags I'm determined to stick to it more, it's like physio, if you get it free the majority don't do the exercises, if you pay privately for any sort of session you do the work!

Yes that's true. My DD makes to the two if us a huge fruit salad to last the 2 of us 2 days. She uses m and s fruit. It must cost around £15. We can afford it, and it's worth it to us. But if someone is struggling to find the money to feed their family for the next week, a fruit salad won't even be affordable 😞

Motnight · 15/01/2025 07:26

Weepixie · 15/01/2025 06:46

There’s an article in the DM today about BMI and the new approach to it that some practitioners are already using. This picture explains it better than the article does

Really useful @Weepixie, thank you.

NippyCrab · 15/01/2025 08:49

Morning, i love your science brain Mrs 20Pounds,
@Motnight exactly, even the savers items are often unaffordable for some. We are lucky too that if we want an item we have it but sometimes I refuse to pay the price and will choose another fruit that week, at least I have the option.

@Ithinkimrincewind thank you that's really helpful to know that, i will see how i get on today. I'll have a look this morning on Amazon, I'm blind as a wee bat without my specs.

@Weepixie after all this time you would think they would've updated the BMI 😂
Thank you for sharing this, I'll save it and read it later on.

@FlappingMadly i didn't think of it from that view thank you, yes we were motivated and maybe at the well this is our last chance stage of weight loss journeys. I know I was.

NippyCrab · 15/01/2025 08:53

I've run out of coffee ☕️ 😩

I forgot to pick it up yesterday so I've had one, I've not got any fresh either ffs, sack the housekeeper what is happening in this household!! Just can't get the staff..
These dogs need to buck up their ideas and earn their keep 😂😂

MargoLivebetter · 15/01/2025 08:55

@20bloodypounds I agree, it is interesting and also a good thing, IMO. I wish that general healthcare in the UK involved more of a dialogue and working together with the GP to find optimal health in a way that works best for the individual. I realise that GPs are bound by the terror of being sued if they don't follow the NICE guidelines and all the other many constraints that protect them, but I don't think it leads to particularly great outcomes, particularly with chronic conditions (of which obesity is one).

FlappingMadly · 15/01/2025 09:06

OMG I am sending my owl with some now @NippyCrab . Be strong.

Well yes you can get 99p ready meals but that's one meal. EG: A small pumpkin, a couple big parsnips, with available flavourings makes a thick soup for several days. A bag of lentils is cheap. Go for the veg and have an apple or a satsuma, not a fruit salad. My.mum.goes to a huge hospital opposite a massive housing estate. In that estate there's a shop selling mouldy looking veg and next to it, a big chippy. Which are you going to get?

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