November starters thread 3 - the one where we get eggy burbs 😂

[Mounjaropen]

Follow on from this thread kindly started by @keepcalmandgiveitago

www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5210618-november-mounjaro-starters-thread-2?page=40&reply=140196790

Well, you can have some sympathy from me because that sounds really frustrating and unrewarding. I hope the scales start moving again soon.

Like you @TooExtraImmatureCheddar by this time I would be having mince pies, festive pate, chocolate etc. and a regular glass of Bailey . I will probably save the cost of my December pen by not buying all the festive food I normally munch through before Christmas. So that is a good NSV

Commiserations to everyone that’s feeling disappointed with their stalls/lower than they would like losses. I know from previous dieting attempts how frustrating that is. Hopefully your bodies are just saving up for a big whoosh soon.

Stalls are the worst. It’s easy to say just keep going when you need to dig really deep for the motivation to do so….. especially when it’s costing money

Thank you all, that was such a frustrated rant earlier, I’m just mindful of the sacrifices I’m making to spend the money on this medication. Especially at an already expensive time of year. I’d hoped by starting when I did I’d feel so much better in my Christmas clothes but it seems like I’m going to be no better off than I was back in September when I got down to this weight just being mindful over what I was eating and upping my exercise as so far I’ve only lost the 7ish pounds that I had put back on since then.

In terms of what I’m eating, it varies but breakfast/lunch is pretty consistent.

Breakfast: Egg white on wholemeal or Aldi protein yoghurt with granola. (Both approx 200 cals)

Lunch: Ready meal (so I can be sure of cals and find that I go wildly off piste if given the choice of anything in the fridge) eg Lamb hot pot or chicken casserole - between 350-450 cals.

Tea: bolognese/chilli/stir fry/sausage & mash/fajitas that kind of thing. Normally between 600 and 1000 cals depending on portion size/ amount of veg etc.

Average of 10000+ steps per day every day.

MJ has been absolutely great at cutting out snacking etc. I’ve not wanted to do that at all yet previously I couldn’t pass the kitchen without shovelling in a chocolate digestive or two. I normally go absolutely mental for Mr Kipling’s Festive Bakewells and I’ve had the same box in the cupboard for almost 2 weeks. Previously I’ve been known to smash two boxes in a week. So there is some effect. I’m just not seeing it on the scales yet.

Other people’s stories are giving me hope though. I’ve ordered the next one already so I’m committed for at least the next 4 or so weeks. Final official dose of this pen on Thursday.

Feeling more positive after no loss in 7 days, I’m 2lbs lighter today so I’m keeping on going. That’s 1stone off since I started (1 week of dieting pre mj plus 3 weeks on mj). I was really bloated and I know I had a lot of water retention. I think drinking lots has helped (giving up Pepsi Max cold turkey).

Interestingly, I had a brilliant day at work yesterday. I supported a member of my team and she was grateful, another colleague not in my team witnessed and praised me for my approach and my meeting with my manager was great too. This sounds small but I’ve had to really re prove myself in a very toxic environment so it was a great feeling.

I’ve also concluded that I need to stay away from bread 😭

Are you counting the clicks , what will you do with left over as I thought pen only lasted 30days from when opened ?

I've just injected my second dose. Today was the first day I wanted to eat breakfast, so I do feel like the 2.5ml dose is working for me now and lasted most of the week. I managed to lose 6 pounds in week one, but not expecting to be able to sustain that rate of loss. I have significantly cut down on how much I'm eating though, as from my daily weigh ins, it seems I simply cannot lose weight unless I do. I feel sad thinking that to maintain any weight loss at the end of this, that I will have to be so careful around food indefinitely. But I know it's important for my long term health to get down to a healthy weight. I really miss cheese and wine though!

Sorry you are struggling. That does sound so frustrating

How tall are you? I'm 5ft 2 and really need to stick to approx 1200 calories a day to lose weight. That seems very low to a lot of people but that's just the way it is for me.

I’m the same, over 1200 and I don’t lose, over 1500 and I gain. I’m 5’4” and it feels unfair but it is what it is.

Good job on the snacking front.

I'd wager if you entered onto a nutrition site your intake you would find that your macros will be skewed in favour of hidden carbs rather than satisfying proteins or fibre. Unfortunately whilst the calorie count is certain, the emulsifiers etc in ready meals could be playing havoc with your system and your body might be hanging onto them (for want of a better phrase!)

Without sounding patronising (I don't mean to at all!) Could you try:

Bacon/Egg muffins - these are dead easy, you could make a batch keep in the fridge and eat over 2/3 days. Simply get a deep muffin tin that holds 12 muffins and then spray one-cal or a rub of butter around the edge. Then wrap a rasher of streaky bacon around the inside and cut another in half and place in the Bottom so it forms a 'case'. Then crack an egg into the middle, sprinkle with fresh chives/chilli flakes and bake for about 15-20mins at 180. Each is 219 calories assuming the egg is large. v low (if any carbs).

Just plain unadulterated greek yoghurt, a tablespoon of maple syrup (if you want something sweet) and make your own granola so you know what's in it? I know it's a bit faffy but you'd probably save money in the long run.

Lunch - could you prep a salad in advance and have that? Rocket/tuna/Egg/Green beans or Roasted butternut squash with Harrissa/Feta/Rocket/Pumpkin seeds are my faves.

Dinner - my go to is chicken thighs roasted in the same tray as a variety of veg and toss the whole lot in harissa seasoning,oilve oil, sea salt. I usually have cauliflower, courgette, sweet potato, fresh mini plum tomatoes and red pepper. Minimal washing up and sweet potato is lower in carbs than white potato.

On the white potato front, if you cook white potatoes then let them cool and reheat the starch bonds alter so that you actually absorb less carbs than eating them straight away.

Pistachios are great if you buy the in the shell. They take longer to eat and a large bag at Tesco is £2.65 and lasts a few days.

Personally I find lowering carb content is my go-to for losing weight and they are pretty much hidden everywhere (including natural sugars in milk for example)

I’m 5’2” too. It’s really frustrating, but I suppose every pound lost is a bigger % for me than for taller people. Shotsy says that I’m 20% of the way to goal (BMI of 25) so I might make it there in 12 weeks, give or take?

Also 5ft 2 so resemble a weeble currently 🤣

Thank you for the detailed response @Mounjaropen. it’s just frustrating when you see people do things like cut out alcohol or snacks and drop 3 stone almost instantly!

^^ This 😂

Oh I hear you. My issue is wine. MJ had completely turned the chatter off in my head about that.

Festive Bake wells sound awesome tho 😂

I’m 5’3 and feel your pain. My body is amazingly good at holding onto fat - if I was living in a time where food was sparse and starvation was a reality I’m sure I’d be in my element! If I want to loose weight I have to stick to about 1,000 calories, depressing as that is. I find it totally possible with MJ because it turns off the part of my brain that obsesses over food. I love cooking and baking - I must have 100 cookbooks. I usually make interesting salads or spicy soups but since being on MJ I’ve embraced tinned soup - low in calories and quite comforting. I don’t eat bread at all - if I need to spread something I use rye crackers which I actually prefer.

I think the best thing about MJ is learning what I need to eat to loose weight and then it’ll be how much I can eat whilst maintaining. I really hope my body will get used to this reduced calorie diet and I won’t feel hungry when I stop taking Mounjaro.

@JasonTindallsTan not sure if this is helpful but I used to have a set of scales that measured things other than weight such as body fat %, muscle density, bone density and hydration levels. I always found this useful when my weight stalled as there were usually other improvements going on in my body that proved things were changing even if the scales didn’t say so. Boots machines do body fat % and I think maybe bone density

I'm not taking my jab until tomorrow now and if I get bad side effects this week it will 100% be my last one. I'm going to do 3.75 again.

@jasontindallstan sorry you are struggling, I know how frustrating it is when you are doing all the right things and the scales aren't budging. I spent 3 months in a solid calorie deficit and didn't lose a thing (hence the mounjaro!), it's soul destroying.

Like others, I don't think I can lose weight at the recommended calorie deficit made by most TDEE calculators, I need a more extreme deficit. Its infuriating when the basic science and maths doesn't actually work (less in and more out SHOULD equal fat loss but in my experience its not that simple).

Hope you get a whoosh soon!

I decided to move from Voy to Medexpress last week as I wasn't making use of the coaching and medexpress is so much cheaper. I initially filled in the request for a 5mg pen and paid for it last Thursday. I received an email on Monday saying they had a backlog.

Today I email them and got this response

We've received your email and will be in touch as soon as possible.
Due to an influx of injectable weightloss orders, we are experiencing some delays. Currently, we're aiming to reply to all emails within 2-days and we're actively working to bring this down.
If you're waiting for your order to be prescribed - we currently have a process time of 2-3 day delay. We're working our absolute best to speed this up and we appreciate your patience.
Our pharmacy opening hours are Monday to Friday, 9am to 5pm. If you have an urgent medical enquiry, please contact your doctor or dial NHS 111, and in the event of an emergency please dial 999.
All the best,
MedExpress Customer Care

They've taken my payment but so far havent even checked my previous Voy orders. My status with them just says order received.

So if anyone is due to reored soon, I'd reorder a bit early as they seem to be having issues fulfilling the delivery of current orders.

Weird I reordered from med express yesterday and it arrived today.

Were you doing 10,000 steps a day previously? Because if not that’s a huge amount of exercise and you may be converting fat into muscle & just need to be more patient. I know how infuriating it is though I’ve been watching the same 1lb go on and off for 2 weeks and it’s driving me nuts

Yeah I started doing the 10,000 steps in July. Between July and September I lost just over a stone by eating sensibly and doing the exercise. I went from 17 stone 3 to 16 Stone 2.

I then went on two holidays in fairly quick succession and my weight yo-yo’d back up to between 16 stone 10 and 16 stone 6ish. After the last holiday I had a week or so before I started MJ with an official starting weight of 16 Stone 7.3 (I think).

The constant since July has been the steps.

I’ve added in football training/playing since October.

(Annoyingly the massive spike in my steps in September correlates exactly with the first spike back up in my weight - 40+ miles walked over 5 days in NYC did not correlate to any kind of weight loss 🤦🏼‍♀️😂)

We need to start the 5ft 2 weeble club @TooExtraImmatureCheddar @JasonTindallsTan @cadburyegg 😂

I am 5ft 2 as well

I had the same when I ordered to titrate up from 2.5 to 5 but MedExpress processed it and dispatched within 24 hours. Royal Mail then took 3 days to deliver it, but I've still got another week on the 2.5 to go anyway. I think they're just hedging their bets with warning people there may be a delay especially with Xmas deliveries imminent.