Continuing Mounjaro... Part 23

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I will be back in the morning to add all of the information I had spent an hour on earlier on the original thread 23 that sort of went bust but I've just not found time this evening.

I'll cover UTIs again, as well as add the images from Miss Mounjaro, and the list of possible side effects.

Not quite the start to thread 23 that I had planned for, but I do think it's very important that everyone who had successful losses in thread 22 gets a huge congratulations and well done.

Happy thread 23 everybody!

I'm a bit despondent- lost 2 stone since august but I've stalled at the same weight for the last 2 weeks. I've just ordered a 7.5 pen. My appetite control has been the same.

I don't understand!

I am no longer obese!

Congratulations @MounjaroMunchie!

Do not despair! Firstly congratulations on your loss. Two stone gone, very well done. Next, stalls and plateaus are completely normal. If you look back to beginning of this thread or the last one you will find posts from me saying the same thing. And some kind folk telling me it would all be okay.

It will all be okay! The stall will break.

I stalled out just before 2 stone loss for nearly three weeks. Then woosh. Then again around 2.5 stone. And… no whoosh but a continuing of loss. Both points had been previous low weights for me.

And my rate of loss has slowed dramatically since I’ve reached a healthy BMI but I’m okay with that. I’m nearing 3 stone off.

If you’re confident you’re doing everything the same as before (not suddenly found yourself eating an extra 500 calories a day) just ride it out. It will break, this week, next week, soon.

I do totally get the frustration though.

Bloody well done! What an achievement.

Amazing. Well done!

That's awesome. I'm so pleased for you 🙌

@VioletsHeart thank you so much. That's really reassured me. Much love to you 💙

@Slimstar13 wow.. Well done. Just seen your stats.. I read a lot of these threads and just couldn't pass without a comment on how amazing you have done.
I'm 3 stone into a 6 stone loss.. but think I've come to a stall right now, but hey ho, I keep going.

@Slimstar13
Very well done on getting into the 13s today! It's a great feeling to pass a new stone mark, isn't it?
I now weigh 4lbs less than my OH, for the first time in over 20years, which is an amazing feeling too. First week of maintenance and lost another 2lbs so haven't quite got the hang of that yet!

I'm in a size medium top! Not comfortably, I will probably stick to large for the time being, but the fact it comes down over my boobs and my belly and doesn't show my overhang is quite impressive. Not weighed for a while though, been feeling a bit self conscious over the fact I forgot my dose for so long and am basically starting again when I'm so many months in already, doh!

I had a moment where there was a very loud voice in my head shouting "don't eat it, we're better than this, let's wait, let's find something else, you will regret it" but despite hearing that loud and clear I ate it anyway, it was a classic example of poor impulse control and I don't think I can go on without medicating my ADHD anymore but I really hate that it reduces my tolerance for everyday noises and stimuli. It was like watching a train wreck in slow motion, I may as well have had an out of body experience, but I've felt nothing but crippling guilt and shame because I felt out of control, but the reality is I am the only person that controls my body, so it was completely within my control.

Genuinely didn't realise just how good the suppression was before I missed that dose. I could still eat and I was eating normal portions, and that one incident has left me feeling like I'm just an ugly moral failure.

It's taken me a few days to pick myself up off the floor and remind myself that I shouldn't hold myself to the standard others keep for themselves because I have other mental and physical limitations and progress was still being made and it was just one slip up, and I am feeling better now and ready to be motivated again rather than feeling defeated.

I don't think I'll make my Christmas goal of 98kg but perhaps I can make that my new years goal instead.

@Jimmyneutronsforehead I can totally relate to that voice. Have you ever been medicated for ADHD? I'm hoping that once I'm off MJ that medicating mine will help me with self control. I'm planning to stop around April/May which is when I should be starting the ADHD medication.

Well done on the medium tops!

I've just got back down into the 13s now too. 4 weeks in and I've lost 12lbs.
Onwards and downwards!!

@Slimstar13 @BellaCriesAndThatsAlright I have tried a few different ADHD medications and some give me really bad headaches or make me clench my jaws, and others don't give me those side effects but they really heighten my senses and I'm also autistic so it can rend me really agoraphobic and aversive to doing just about anything incase I end up in a situation where I am overwhelmed but can't leave. I find it really hard to mask my discomfort, moreso as I get older.

The last time I tried medicating my ADHD I had a lot of burnout and skill regression and though my family know more about autism now and are more understanding, at that time they were quick to judge instead and I got called dramatic, childish, shameful, embarrassing, undignified etc, because I was having more classic style meltdowns rather than shutdowns which for most of my life, even childhood, I'd always internalised, so it was a huge change in character and behaviours that others hadn't witnessed. When these started happening in public I know it was embarrassing for them because it was also embarrassing for me, but at the time it was hard for them to understand that I'm not trying to give them a bad time, but that I am having a bad time.

I have a lot less demands in my life now. I am unemployed for better or for worse, and I am supported at home and although it took many boys in our family to get diagnosed with autism before there was a universal understanding, there is now more of an understanding thankfully and I am supported at home.

I think the past experiences though have just put me off from trying to medicate my ADHD again.

I am so forgetful, if any one gives me verbal instructions they may as well have said it to the wind. I've got such bad time blindness, I'd be late to my own funeral. I'm glad I don't have to rely on the contraceptive pill anymore and it's a miracle that when I was on the contraceptive pill I didn't end up pregnant because I was at probably less than 50% compliance with taking it. Alarms and reminders and post it notes don't work, they sort of become part of the furniture and they don't work. My impulsivity is ridiculous, and when presented with decisions I get this life or death sensation to make an immediate choice and when it's to do with food and the hunger pangs are intense it genuinely feels like an "eat this whole Terry's chocolate orange or you will die of starvation" sensation and no logic or reason can out-rationalise it. I can't form habits. I can't reliably brush my hair or my teeth every day, not through depression but genuinely because if I can't see my toothbrush or hairbrush it doesn't exist and I take prompting several times, especially if I'm knee deep in doing something else because as I mentioned, verbal instructions might as well be whispers in the wind. The ADHD medication does help me direct my attention a lot easier and takes away some impulsivity and gives me more space with my thoughts to make better choices but definitely doesn't cure everything ADHD related but it's just that in the past my experience has been that it exacerbates all of the struggles I have with autism, so it's like trading one disability for another.

@Jimmyneutronsforehead
I absolutely relate to all of that, with regard to my own neurodiversity.

I think the mounjaro has helped in a sense that it's helped me find a community that is really validating. So many people on these threads alone have tremendous struggles with their own disabilities and illnesses and there's no mentality of you're not good enough or you're not trying hard enough towards anyone and I've seen so many of these people finally have a win in their life because of the support they've found. I think that in turn has reduced a lot of social anxiety, because it's like finding your tribe.

The mounjaro definitely stopped the life or death hunger pangs and I was getting those every hour of every day before and that was a sensory nightmare to navigate because everything else was overwhelming when I was hungry.

On the impulsivity side of things it's still been a struggle. Things like, my nan saying "shall I make us a big pot of rice pudding" and the automatic answer being yes please because I haven't actually given it any thought and just jumped straight to appeasing, and then not wanting to disappoint her by not eating a full portion, so shovelling it in before my body can realise it's full. I really struggle to police my own tone of voice so I'm hypervigilent to not be assertive, because I really struggle to be assertive about my needs, especially when it contradicts what I've just said, without coming across as rude or mean or ungrateful. I usually sound quite cross but really it's myself that I'm cross with for not stopping and thinking before misleading anyone with answers I have impulsively given.

There have been times though where the mounjaro has just stopped me in my tracks though and I've had no option but to take a deep breath and say I'm sorry, that was lovely but I can't manage another bite, even if it's just been a few mouthfuls I've had, and it's left her feeling like she's wasted her time and I rely on her a lot for my daily support.

I think it would benefit everyone if I could get on with ADHD medication, so I am willing to give it another go. I tried to go the supplementary route, as there are lots of supplements that do benefit ADHD, but in true ADHD fashion, I put them in a drawer so DS can't get to them, and then I forget that they exist or that I'd committed to taking them.

@Jimmyneutronsforehead I relate to that so much. Which medications have your tried before? I'm supposed to be getting Elvanse but it won't be for a long time. I'm not expecting it to fix everything but I'm hopeful it will make my life easier.

I can't remember their brand names, but it wasn't elvanse. I think elvanse is relatively recent to the uk market and my last stint pre-dated elvanse, so it might be elvanse that they try me on this time, and you might find you have a much better first time experience than I had. I've still got the empty packets sat in a drawer upstairs somewhere so when I've got some time I'll dig them out and tell you the brand or medication name.

hi everyone - could someone tell me the expiry date on a 12.5 pen ordered recently?! I know it was really short life span for a while there. Thinking of ordering 2 pens due to some upcoming holidays but obviously want them to last! Thanks