Why are we not being vocal about the miracle of weight loss jabs. ?

[AboutVattime]

I started Mountjaro in April at 15 stone 10
I am now 11 stone . Which is my goal weight for my 5'10 frame. I have maintained that for 2 months having started regular exercise that I really enjoy - as well as ZOE healthy eating /cooking which I enjoy equally.

When people say to me 'Wow ! You look amazing (I'm not daft - they mean you don't look fat anymore) .. how have you done it . I am truthful and say 'fat jabs' .. and expand if they don't understand.

However , I have noticed on all the gazillion threads in here about weight loss injections, people are reticent to be honest . .. "my DH knows but haven't told anyone else " .. is a common remark . But WHY ???

Obesity is a life threatening condition. Like Dementia , cancer , liver failure etc etc .. if anyone had one of those conditions and found a drug to help , would they keep quiet or shout it from the bloody roof tops . ?

Or is the old adage true . Fat is a feminist (female) issue ? and we need to pretend it isn't ?

@BruFord link to any sources? A quick google shows these are all side effects you are made aware of.

Well, given that you can be subject to pancreatitis, kidney damage (and I've already had that for other reasons so I don't want it again - it was awful) and gallbladder problems, I think I'll avoid it. I know these are extremes but I'd probably be one of the unlucky ones!

@itwasnevermine Ah, sorry for jumping to conclusions, I genuinely didn’t get it, I thought that you meant that exercise made you very hungry and perhaps triggered cravings.

@BruFord because your mind jumps to a fat person obviously phrasing and being gluttonous.

Gallstones are a bitch. Risk factors include being obese and also losing weight.

They are quite common.

@itwasnevermine Why do you think that you’re being picked on? I genuinely couldn’t understand what you meant when you said that you gained weight the morning after exercising, I’ve never heard of that. I assumed that you meant that you ate more than usual.

Re. The lawsuits. The first suit was filed in August 2023 and nothing’s been proved yet, they may be thrown out. It’s quite possible that people are just trying to make some fast money. The US is very litigious.

www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ozempic-mounjaro-lawsuit-gastroparesis-stomach-paralysis-side-effect/

I'm not sure it is such a good thing having injections for every sort of difficulty. All medicines have side effects and it's possible those side effects are not visible for some time.

I realise that for some people it is imperative that they lose weight, and that might be very difficult for them. But I believe that every other avenue should be explored before resorting to medication.

Do you say the same to people taking medication for other mental illnesses?

Or when someone has a headache do you suggest natural remedies before they take a painkiller?

For those with type 2 diabetes should they try natural remedies first?

I’d say most if not all people taking the injections have probably explored the more traditional avenues for weight loss.

Wow, I didn’t realise how polarising weight loss injections are! I’m really surprised at how popular this thread is.

Again, I do see both sides to this. I think maybe there needs to be more compassion and understanding on both sides. I think it’s completely valid for people to be sceptical of the weight loss injections, and valid for people to feel the injections have really helped them.

In terms of scepticism - Ultimately I’m only in my 20s, but I’ve had it drilled down into me that losing weight is as simple as a calorie deficit (which I do agree with). It’s likely people older than me have lived a life where that was drilled into them too, so it may be a situation where a significant amount of society relearns what the appropriate options are. It’s undoing what was previously taught almost. It’s natural to be sceptical.

Again, I’m taking the injections myself so I don’t think they’re inherently bad or harmful, but I imagine it will take years or decades before the public perception of them changes. It’s likely the younger generations will live life with weight loss injections being a normal option long-term - stigma will naturally dissolve in time.

Because so many people are extremely judgemental about them. Because they're not 'natural". And it's 'cheating'. If you just got a grip on your eating habits and exercised,you'd lose weight. Always said by someone who has never had a weight problem in their life. I have struggled with my weight for years. I managed to lose 7 stone the 'natural way',but got totally stuck with 4 more to go. I've been using Wegovy for 6 weeks and I'm already a stone down. I say do what works for you.

They don't go into your veins they go under your skin!........

I am 100% pro them @AboutVattime They are diabetic medicines and as I'm diabetic, they help me manage my blood glucose fabulously, so will help reduce diabetic complications and that is plenty enough for me..
If they help with weightloss all the better!

BTW well done with the weightloss, that's amazing :)

What are the other benefits of Monjauro?' Someone mentions it helps with inflammation - sounds miraculous. I've always had a layer of fat around me and would love to lose a stone.

They don't go into your veins they go under your skin!......... Oh dear God. This is why they are so dangerous if not prescribed. You don't possibly think something can find its way into your blood? 🤦‍♀️.

Because I was curious as to why the OP felt we needed to be ‘more vocal’.

If you read my response fully, you’ll see that I made a suggestion about sharing to those people who may want to investigate further, as I said I might if that became something I needed to look into.

I don’t believe that shoving an opinion down people’s throats often works.

@Fluoreto the poster is clearly making a distinction between a self administered intravenous injection and a self administered subcutaneous injection. Of course the poster knows that the injected medicine then is absorbed by the body and ends up in the blood.

That's a novel stance. Usually people consider the balance of risk.

You are unlikely to be a candidate for treatment if you only need to lose a bit.

Did you say you're a bit overweight, not sure if Im following the right conversation

if you are and you develop type 2 diabetes you would be given these drugs then, would you refuse to take them given what you say?

Exactly! Depressed people should just try harder. Smile more or something.

Menopausal women should just hormone harder - using synthetic hormones is just cheating.

Smoking is disgusting so it must be really easy to give up, nicotine gum and patches? Also cheating.

Erectile dysfunction? One should just manifest a hard on. Taking viagra? Also cheating.

Not ‘toxic’ but licensed and aproved

studies show 2 years is safe and will likely be extended as more data comes

nit veins but subcutaneous

will revolutionise health. Fewer heart attacks, less dementia, reduction in diabetes, reduction in cancer

@PickleSarnie in 10 years I think we'll look back on these medicines as world changing. They have the potential to help so many people with so many ailments

I wouldn't be so sure, having read some of the threads on this topic!

@Fluoreto you're the one who didn't know the difference though?

Perhaps because Thalidomide was a miracle drug in the 50s and 60s. These are new and experimental, and work well for some people. We still don't know the long-term side effects.