Why are we not being vocal about the miracle of weight loss jabs. ?

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I started Mountjaro in April at 15 stone 10
I am now 11 stone . Which is my goal weight for my 5'10 frame. I have maintained that for 2 months having started regular exercise that I really enjoy - as well as ZOE healthy eating /cooking which I enjoy equally.

When people say to me 'Wow ! You look amazing (I'm not daft - they mean you don't look fat anymore) .. how have you done it . I am truthful and say 'fat jabs' .. and expand if they don't understand.

However , I have noticed on all the gazillion threads in here about weight loss injections, people are reticent to be honest . .. "my DH knows but haven't told anyone else " .. is a common remark . But WHY ???

Obesity is a life threatening condition. Like Dementia , cancer , liver failure etc etc .. if anyone had one of those conditions and found a drug to help , would they keep quiet or shout it from the bloody roof tops . ?

Or is the old adage true . Fat is a feminist (female) issue ? and we need to pretend it isn't ?

The GLP1 receptor drugs (Monjaro/ Wygovy) are life changing. Once the license expires in 18 months they will become cheaper to buy privately. It has been licenced for the NHS through N.I.C.E for people with a BMI over 35. According to many doctors I speak to this is the most important scientific discovery since penicillin. As well as being a drug for diabetes and latterly weight loss, it is having an effect on addictions, parkinsons, dementia and certain cancers. Side effects are minimal. The cost-saving to the NHS of reducing obesity related illnesses is massive. These drugs are nothing short of a miracle

At last! Someone who understands that losing weight isn’t just about eating less and moving more. Food noise and a compulsion to eat is a real thing. You can’t just stop. There’s a mental process to go through to try and mitigate these. Medications can lead to weight gain and if you’re one of those people that struggle to lose weight being put on these is a nightmare. I was in steroids for 5 years, then HRT. I started Mounjaro because I didn’t know what else to do. The NHS is overstretched and even if you’re referred to a dietitian they use outdated dietary information that is no use. Personally, I think these injections should be available on the NHS as in the long run it would be cheaper to keep people at a healthy weight than have to deal with the consequences of long term obesity on an aging population.

Here, Here 👏 We should all be celebrating as we all stand to gain so much for this miracle medication.

I’m so pleased that the NHS will fund for people over 35 BMI. Everyone deserves the chance to change their life for the better. It shouldn’t just be available to people with money. This will make people more economically productive and happier- it’s worth every penny invested because we stand to gain so much as a country by finally breaking the obesity epidemic.

Because when you are that weight exercise is difficult if not impossible. Once you have lost some of the weight it becomes easier to maintain momentum. We are talking about obesity here not just ‘I would like to lose half a stone for a holiday/ whatever).

(same journey as OP).

Some people just scroll past, I know, imagine that.

This. This is why people don't want to talk about them.

For those who don't believe they work, or that we're all just lazy fat buggers

First picture is me in August, just before I started mounjaro. As you can see, I was at the gym. Progress was very frustrating - if I went too hard on an exercise I'd gain weight the next morning. I'd gain 7+ pounds before my period, I'd be uncontrollable before my period and so hungry. I was trying my hardest but it felt like I kept stumbling.

Second picture was tonight, I'm a week before my period and I've got very little bloating, or even any side effects at all. I'm peaceful and finally working on my health. That wouldn't have happened without MJ.

They're not an easy way out, we're putting in the work

I'm vocal OP. I tell people.

It’s just that the average weight people - who occasionally stray in the overweight category - simply do not want the overweight and obese category to lose weight so “easily”. This means that a very large segment of the population is jealous. If the obese can suddenly and reliably become average weight or even slim, they are suddenly left without a very important resource of social superiority. They couldn’t care in the slightest about anyone’s health, or the “unknown” long term side effects of the jabs, yet they’ll chant to you about the latter until they go blue in the face. But it’s actually because they’ve lost their imagined moral standing that makes them so cross 😅

The jabs are not miracles

They're man made

Yes you hit the nail on the head. It's just more business for everyone in the end at the cost of our health

For a post grad paper I looked into the effects of neo-liberalism (i.e. loosening of regulations) on the food industry. An interesting point is that the less water food has in it the less time you will feel full. So now I make sure I drink a glass of water with any meals/snacks that I have and I eat much smaller portions.

Reading your post it might be worth having a chat with your doctor about Pre-menstrual dysmorphic disorder- excessive binge eating is a symptom of this. Essentially its and intense version of PMS. On my last period I ate an entire cheesecake (very unusual for me) and I still didn't feel full it was insane!

I'd like to lose a bit (the menopause is not your waistline's friend!) but the side-affects sound pretty horrendous. I'm not sure I want to subject my body to something so powerful.

I don’t particularly want to hear about them, in the same way I’m not interested in anyone else’s gym routine, or diet.

If I was interested, I’d research it myself. If you were to write down your experience somewhere, for people to find, that would be more helpful than evangelising about it.

So why are you on this thread?

Progress was very frustrating - if I went too hard on an exercise I'd gain weight the next morning.

@itwasnevermine Do you mean that you’d overeat after exercising?

No, I'd retain water etc., terribly. I'd literally gain pounds out of nowhere. I'd drink massive amounts of water but continually be gaining water weight. That doesn't happen now.

@Ger1atricMillennial it's horrendous, but now on the mounjaro it's gone. It's more like I was just hungry all day and would snack all day

I love that even when confronted with a fat person working hard to lose weight your first thought is "they must be overeating!"

@DisabledDemon tbe side effects are renowned for being very minimal so what do you mean by them ‘being horrendous.? They’re usually limited to a bit of nausea at first. Some people have a bit of an upset stomach. At first. Then your body adapts and you’re fine.

Absolutely agree with this. This is the drug of the future, and will change healthcare forever.
Such ignorant posts from some people who have zero knowledge about how this drug works, & clearly no interest in learning about it.

Thats great, and I am not saying give up mounjaro, but getting a diagnosis and a treatment plan for the issue rather than just dealing with the symptoms could help you in the long run.

@itwasnevermine I genuinely didn’t understand what you were saying, as people don’t generally gain weight the morning after exercising, do they?

I do appreciate that many of us gain a few pounds through water retention before our periods.

@BruFord when you exercise you get microscopic tears in your muscles which then retain water to heal. As you work up muscle etc., it's supposedly meant to reduce.

But I would just hang onto water. I'd go to the gym and the next morning be 2-3lbs heavier, which was obviously demoralising. Mounjaro has anti-inflammatory effects as well which is obviously helping me a lot

@Serendipitousnight I’m in the US and here the media has been talking about the lawsuits that are being brought by some patients against various manufacturers.

It’s quite possible that the lawsuits will be disproved and thrown out, because they allege some very serious side effects.
Presumably @DisabledDemon is referring to those-we’ll have to see whether any are proved.