Why are we not being vocal about the miracle of weight loss jabs. ?

[AboutVattime]

I started Mountjaro in April at 15 stone 10
I am now 11 stone . Which is my goal weight for my 5'10 frame. I have maintained that for 2 months having started regular exercise that I really enjoy - as well as ZOE healthy eating /cooking which I enjoy equally.

When people say to me 'Wow ! You look amazing (I'm not daft - they mean you don't look fat anymore) .. how have you done it . I am truthful and say 'fat jabs' .. and expand if they don't understand.

However , I have noticed on all the gazillion threads in here about weight loss injections, people are reticent to be honest . .. "my DH knows but haven't told anyone else " .. is a common remark . But WHY ???

Obesity is a life threatening condition. Like Dementia , cancer , liver failure etc etc .. if anyone had one of those conditions and found a drug to help , would they keep quiet or shout it from the bloody roof tops . ?

Or is the old adage true . Fat is a feminist (female) issue ? and we need to pretend it isn't ?

I rarely look at these threads. Do they often result in such (accidental?) honesty?

They usually result in such blatant hatred of fat people to be honest

Because of judgemental fuckwits like you, maybe?

I've lost weight through willpower in the past. It was hard but I did it, and I kept the weight off.

This time, it was impossible. It was impossible because of a medical reason- my metabolism had reduced and my appetite had increased due to perimenopause. The willpower to eat 900 calories a day was beyond me.

Wegovy helped but I still had to watch what I ate like a hawk. I just didn't have that awful.gnawing hunger.

I haven't told people only because one of my best friends is very anti it. She's very vocal about it so I couldn't be bothered with all that.

Some of the views expressed here are shockingly ill informed.

In addition to the fact some people have a lack of critical thinking and can’t see anything outside of their own experience, the other thing I am getting from this is there is a group of people who put a value on their own self worth by their perception of where they stand in a hierarchy they have devised in relation to other people.

Whereas there is another group of people who don’t care what other people are doing as they have a different internal value system of their self worth. I think in here we have the two groups colliding. Interesting to see.

These people assign value to us based on our weight.

Higher weight = lower value because we're "undesirable".

As we lose weight, we threaten their position in their hierarchy. It's sad

Really odd to think that some people don't tell others about their medication because they are secretly aware they're 'cheating'. I don't tell many people I'm on HRT either. I definitely don't tell people about the anti-depressants. It's no one's business. There are reasons people's medical information is seen as private.

I'm not interested in those follow-on conversations where I have to justify myself by sharing the conversations I had with my GP. I don't want to talk to someone, whose business it isn't, about how I should do mindfulness instead of take anti-depressants or take supplements instead of HRT. I don't want to explain the weight gain and weight loss journey I've been on to get to the point where I've made this informed decision. I don't know the medical or psychological history of the people I'm talking to and so I don't know what baggage they're bringing to the conversation. This is about my health and that's all there is to it.

I didn't consult anyone except my GP when I was making the decision to take these interventions, and I'm not interested in justifying myself to anyone else now I've made those decisions. Luckily the opinions and judgements of others have absolutely no bearing on the weight loss benefits I'm seeing at the moment, and how much more comfortable I'm now feeling in my own body.

I am all for these drugs if it helps people. Exercise alone doesn’t work for everyone (I am not taking these drugs myself but I can see how they benefit)
The problem is the judgement and jealousy, take the recent post about Alison Hammond

Has Alison Hammond even discussed her weight loss in terms of how she’s done it?

She looks fantastic btw, but it’s not anyone’s business.

No, but articles report she has "overhauled" her life.

I'd imagine she thinks it's none of anyone else's business! But she still gets hammered for it

I think the main take away from this thread for me is that people generally feel that women should have to 'work' for everything they have. Women are so used to being suppressed in life that it becomes ingrained that everything should be an uphill climb. I celebrate anything that makes a woman's life easier and happier, and that includes weight loss injections!

Please note that I know many men take these injections too, but they don't seem to be subjected to the same abuse for taking them. And certainly woman seem to struggle more with hormonal weight gain than men due to pregnancy and menopause etc.

I suspect by the way that many of us who have now lost weight with MJ have in the past also been the people who have lost through diet and exercise. Because most of us are people who have been trying hard for years. We haven’t skipped that bit. We’ve lived it.

I havent stopped hearing people talking about it.

I am also having to accept that when I've lost the weight and no longer qualify to use MJ I have to keep on the same kind of diet in order to keep the weight off and the prediabetes from coming back. I will never be able to eat how I used to.

The thing is, it's becoming easier for me to start to face that reality having lost half the weight. However, when I was insulin resistant, exhausted, constantly hungry, managing the biologically driven sugar cravings and fighting to just not put on an more let alone lose any, I did just think what is the point. It felt like my body was working against me - and it was. I'm about half way through my weight loss journey and I know that once all that weight is gone, and my blood sugars are under control, I will have my health back and my body back and that's worth the sacrifice of not eating pizza to hold on to.

@AboutVattime I've recently started Mounjaro also, and I think it's great. I'm almost a stone down within 5 weeks, I'm still at the gym and eating a lot less. I think it's great as my mindset toward food has totally changed and mentally I feel great. Wishing you all the best 💐

As someone who has managed to sustain weight loss in the past until a life change has come along and disrupted things, I agree. It's definitely easier to make sustained sacrifices when you can feel the benefit every day.

Women have been told
Slim is best for over 100 years.

Fat people male and female have been ridiculed for hundreds of years. Think old seaside post cards cartoons. Stand up jokes etc.

Fat people are seen as public property to judge and laugh at.

Those that have NEVER been fat see themself's as morally superior and are now shutting themselves that this pecking order will end.

This is why so called friends or colleagues make snide comments to you about any weight loss. Is it the over weight ones that comment? Not usually no!

One of my closest oldest friends can't bring herself to notice my loss. I've dropped two dress sizes from a 14/16 to 10/12. I KNOW she has noticed. She just won't acknowledge it for her own insecurity reasons

I'm the fat friend and she doesn't like it that
I'm not anymore.

I agree with this.
Surely these two industries will now be competing with each other?
Fake food giants VS the weight loss injection pharma giants.

Because this has been a lifelong battle for me, I have weight records going back 20 years or more.

I just looked at them. In that time I have lost 384lbs through diet and exercise. All in the same 50-75lbs chucks, over and over again. Partnered with putting on 445lbs over that time frame - in chunks. I have never not been fighting this, sometimes winning, more often losing. This chart is my weight - note how there has never been a single period of proper stability in it.

384lbs! There is no one that can convince me that MJ is taking the shortcut or that I don't know what it takes to lose weight, or that am not disciplined enough to lose weight the 'natural' way.

Yes. This is where my thoughts were sitting at the start of this thread. Concerns about some kind of dystopian future where food companies could sell us huge volumes of absolute shit and the pharma companies could sell us the ‘cure’. But learning a bit more about how people are using the treatments to make big inroads and how it helps to kickstart a long term solution has reassured me

What I love the most is that you’ve admitted you’re a fatty just like we are and you hate it….if your idea of how weight loss should work actually worked, you’d be slimmer.

Nobody has actually raised a legitimate concern that hasn't been uncovered to be BS yet, now it's "big food v big pharma" - I mean wtf??? Nobody is going to gorge themselves on £100000s of UPF just to take a jab, lose it all and then repeat the cycle 😵‍💫

I’m not convinced this sister even exists… you’ve referred to “her mum” and then “our mum”, “my sister” and “step-sister”.

Nobody is going to gorge themselves on £100000s of UPF just to take a jab, lose it all and then repeat the cycle 😵‍💫
🤫
Don't give people ideas!

I wonder if the amount of money that you save (from not eating the food that formerly made you obese) is similar to the amount of money spent on the weight loss injections?
If so then yhere will surely be some people who weigh it up like this-
'I'll have a few months enjoying all the lovely food and then for the next few months I'll spend the same money on weight loss injections and lose all the weight'
No?