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Discuss weight-loss injections and treatments, including personal experiences. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any treatments.

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Why are we not being vocal about the miracle of weight loss jabs. ?

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AboutVattime · 07/10/2024 18:59

I started Mountjaro in April at 15 stone 10
I am now 11 stone . Which is my goal weight for my 5'10 frame. I have maintained that for 2 months having started regular exercise that I really enjoy - as well as ZOE healthy eating /cooking which I enjoy equally.

When people say to me 'Wow ! You look amazing (I'm not daft - they mean you don't look fat anymore) .. how have you done it . I am truthful and say 'fat jabs' .. and expand if they don't understand.

However , I have noticed on all the gazillion threads in here about weight loss injections, people are reticent to be honest . .. "my DH knows but haven't told anyone else " .. is a common remark . But WHY ???

Obesity is a life threatening condition. Like Dementia , cancer , liver failure etc etc .. if anyone had one of those conditions and found a drug to help , would they keep quiet or shout it from the bloody roof tops . ?

Or is the old adage true . Fat is a feminist (female) issue ? and we need to pretend it isn't ?

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Nowdontmakeamess · 07/10/2024 22:02

I think it’s great something that is relatively simple to do and actually works has been found. I wish it was more widely available, I’ve been stuck at the healthy/overweight border for years and would love to be able to take it just to lose a stone to get me in the middle of the healthy range.

peonym · 07/10/2024 22:03

@Flopsy145 such a sad thing to say about your sister.

MurdoMunro · 07/10/2024 22:04

Flopsy145 · 07/10/2024 22:00

My poor sister ate herself into oblivion despite living with an exceptionally healthy mum who would cook her exceptionally healthy meals, a home gym that was very well stocked, no disability, no money issues, plenty of time. But tbh she was lazy and if I'm honest, gluttonous.

So no I don't feel sorry for her.

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Blimey. It feels like that needs its own thread to unpick.

CrazyGoatLady · 07/10/2024 22:05

Happyhappyday · 07/10/2024 20:50

I think this is really true. I am skinny and have pretty much always been and the honest answer is that I DO have trouble understanding why other people can’t stay at a healthy weight because it’s never been difficult for me. Objectively I know the reasons and understand part of my ability to stay healthy is luck (can afford food, not disabled, have time to cook and think properly about making sure every day I have a balanced diet etc). i think my judgment towards other people stinks but if I am honest with myself, is IS there.

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I absolutely applaud the straight up honesty of this post 👏🏼

Like I get it's uncomfortable to hear and all, but it's much better than the faux health concern that people often dress it up as to hide their internalised fatphobia and judgment of others. If we were all more honest about it, we might have more useful conversations about these things.

I'll be honest too - I have internalised fatphobia. I tried to do the body positive thing and accept myself and my body at a higher weight and I couldn't do it. I tried to embrace the whole health at every size thing - but I had become very unhealthy at the size I was. I accept some people can carry more weight than I did and not have prediabetes, but I couldn't.

I went on the jags because they were a last resort option after trying diets and failing and I am lucky enough to be able to afford them. I don't want Type 2 diabetes, I want a healthy middle and older age, and I can't see myself as healthy if I'm fat. There, I said it.

Flopsy145 · 07/10/2024 22:05

peonym · 07/10/2024 22:03

@Flopsy145 such a sad thing to say about your sister.

It's the truth though, why is that sad? She ate too much and didn't move enough and now wants her mum to pay to fix it, and is still eating too much shit. Is it unkind to be honest now in this snow flake world we live in?

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:05

Are you under a rock, OP? Or just an advertising bot?

CoverMeInMarmalade · 07/10/2024 22:05

Blimey. It feels like that needs its own thread to unpick.

Doesn't it just!

Doggymummar · 07/10/2024 22:05

itwasnevermine · 07/10/2024 21:17

Yes this is another thing, those on GLP-1s have reportedly been able to give up drinking and smoking a lot easier.

Of course that's a type of addiction that's accepted in society.

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Yes I gave up alcoholic for over a year, on wegovy. Mounjaro is not having the same effect

peonym · 07/10/2024 22:07

@Flopsy145 it's unkind to be unkind. Period.

Doggymummar · 07/10/2024 22:07

berksandbeyond · 07/10/2024 21:48

I wonder how many people would lose weight if they dedicated that £150-£200 a month to their diet and gym?

You need to do both, the fat doesn't just disappear into the bed sheets.

ItsAlrightDarling · 07/10/2024 22:07

Flopsy145 · 07/10/2024 22:05

It's the truth though, why is that sad? She ate too much and didn't move enough and now wants her mum to pay to fix it, and is still eating too much shit. Is it unkind to be honest now in this snow flake world we live in?

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I suspect you’re projecting your feelings of hatred and disgust about your sister on to those of us who are choosing to use a licensed medication, bought from a registered pharmacy, prescribed by a Dr, to improve our health.

Flopsy145 · 07/10/2024 22:10

peonym · 07/10/2024 22:07

@Flopsy145 it's unkind to be unkind. Period.

Tell me why it's unkind to say what I said? She is fat because she ate herself fat, that is true and she would say the same about herself

ThatsNotMyTeen · 07/10/2024 22:10

ItsAlrightDarling · 07/10/2024 21:57

I haven’t touched a single drop of alcohol since taking the medication. I don’t have any interest in it whatsoever.

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I’ve heard people say that too. I don’t drink so it’s not been a thing for me but it’s great

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 07/10/2024 22:10

soupfiend · 07/10/2024 21:47

I mean imagine a world where we are all slim and within a healthy BMI

No one will know who cheated, who took the injections or had surgery.

How awful it will be for the judgey ones, they wont know, they cant judge, they cant feel superior, all these 'other' naturally slim, all these 'Im careful about what I eat and watch my weight' people around them. They just wont know who 'we' are!!! They cant look down their noses at us!

Bloody hell, just listen to yourself.

I don't think the majority of people could give a toss or probably even notice. In fact, a high proportion of the population are overweight - more, I'd wager, than a low weight!

peonym · 07/10/2024 22:11

@Flopsy145 because if that were my sister I would be supporting her, not calling her lazy and gluttonous. I'd be trying to help her work out the root cause of the problem. Not judging her for it.

Flopsy you've come across as quite awful on this thread so I'll end the engagement here.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 07/10/2024 22:12

Flopsy145 · 07/10/2024 22:05

It's the truth though, why is that sad? She ate too much and didn't move enough and now wants her mum to pay to fix it, and is still eating too much shit. Is it unkind to be honest now in this snow flake world we live in?

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It’s plain you can’t stand your sister. Fair enough but this is clouding your judgement

Flopsy145 · 07/10/2024 22:14

ItsAlrightDarling · 07/10/2024 22:07

I suspect you’re projecting your feelings of hatred and disgust about your sister on to those of us who are choosing to use a licensed medication, bought from a registered pharmacy, prescribed by a Dr, to improve our health.

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I don't hate her, I love her and I'm sad for her that she got herself here despite literally every help afforded to her

itwasnevermine · 07/10/2024 22:14

@AmICrazyToEvenBother but this thread shows a lot of skinny people do care. A lot. And have a lot of hatred for those of us who are overweight.

ItsAlrightDarling · 07/10/2024 22:15

Flopsy145 · 07/10/2024 22:14

I don't hate her, I love her and I'm sad for her that she got herself here despite literally every help afforded to her

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😳 I’d hate to hear how you talk about people you don’t like, then!

ThatsNotMyTeen · 07/10/2024 22:16

Flopsy145 · 07/10/2024 22:14

I don't hate her, I love her and I'm sad for her that she got herself here despite literally every help afforded to her

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Sooooo

does this not tell you there must be more at play in obesity than you seem to think?

ThreeTescoBags · 07/10/2024 22:18

peonym · 07/10/2024 22:11

@Flopsy145 because if that were my sister I would be supporting her, not calling her lazy and gluttonous. I'd be trying to help her work out the root cause of the problem. Not judging her for it.

Flopsy you've come across as quite awful on this thread so I'll end the engagement here.

In fairness, I think the root cause of the sisters troubles may be apparent from this thread 😅

since1986 · 07/10/2024 22:18

pbdr · 07/10/2024 19:20

It's because there is such societal ignorance about the causes of obesity, and people genuinely believe it's just a lifestyle choice, and that injections are "cheating" and "the lazy way" to lose weight. So there's a stigma that leads to people feeling shame and hiding their treatment to avoid judgement.

It's all nonsense of course. The evidence is clear that obesity is largely a genetic disease. There are over 1100 different genes that have been identified so far that are linked to obesity, most of which affect appetite, food seeking behaviours, satiety after eating and compulsion to eat. Naturally slim people who don't have an obesogenic genetic makeup are often ignorant of what it is like for those who do, and imagine that it's a level playing field where obese people are just making worse choices than they are and are to blame for their obesity. In reality people with a significantly obesogenic genetic makeup can feel insatiably hungry, obsessive about food with an overwhelming compulsion to eat. The degree of self control required to continually override that is simply beyond what most people are capable of sustaining in the long term, and so obesity (in an environment where access to food is unlimited) is more or less inevitable. Naturally slim people do not generally have better self control than naturally obese people- they just simply don't need it, as their desire to eat and appetite are normal.
Because of these powerful genetic factors, in the context of unlimited access to food in our society, the success rates of diet and exercise interventions alone for long term weight loss are abysmal. These injections down regulate appetite and compulsion to eat to normal, controllable levels that makes sustainable weight loss possible for people for whom it has never been within reach before.

I am very lucky to naturally tend towards being a normal, healthy weight, but I am very aware that if I had just a few different genes I would be obese. I am a doctor and have seen how utterly life changing these treatments can be for patients. So many of them marvel at the loss of the "food noise" that that previously plagued them every waking moment, and even besides the weight loss, that alone can have a massive positive impact on their quality of life. Sadly right now there is very little nhs availability so mostly only patients who can afford to pay have access. I hope this changes with time as the huge health benefits of weight loss in terms of cardiovascular disease and diabetes reduction will surely make these treatments cost effective.

"feel insatiably hungry, obsessive about food with an overwhelming compulsion to eat."

Ironically it's a survival instinct and even only a few hundred years ago served humans well. Now it's serving us poorly but we're only just now figuring out how to turn it off.

In countries where food is scarce or in hunting communities, it's still very much part of survival.

But put those humans in places where food isn't limited in the same ways, and boom we're fucked.

For the 'naturally slim' people who just 'dont get it' and why certain people will always be predispositioned to be overweight - you never will. Because it's not a compulsion or drive your mind will ever feel. It's not a physiological or biological response that your body will ever have.

The other day I compared it to those who have an inner monologue and those who dont, or those who can see in images and those that dont, to a friend. And she finally understood.

You don't need to 'get it'. You just need to either educate yourselves if you actually want to, or just stfu and put your judgey pants away and let people who are impacted by obesity figure out the best way forwards that works for them.

Because you honestly have no idea what it feels like to be drowning, but also feel so worthless (because of society these days) that you're not even sure yourself if you're worth saving.

Maximusdecimus · 07/10/2024 22:19

I tried ozempic and shit myself. There was no prior warning except a hideous sharp pain and I broke out in a cold sweat then oh my Christ. I was driving, couldn’t do anything except let it happen. I thank god I didn’t bloody crash. Is this different? 😬

ChangeHasCome · 07/10/2024 22:19

If people talk about their "fat" sibling - whom they say they love - with such disdain, there's no hope for us randos online. Makes sense now.

Onlyonekenobe · 07/10/2024 22:19

Why does anyone need to be vocal about Mounjaro? Take it if you want to, don't take it if you don't. What business is it of anyone else's? You're literally only helping/harming yourself.