Can’t get approved - v overweight

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I am v overweight size 16 I cannot get approved I have tried increasing my bmi they say I look too slim in pics! I am over 82kg !!?? Help!

I am actually really concerned that MN thinks this is ok.

Wonder if MN wants to be known as somewhere you can come find all the tricks to get medication you don’t qualify for. Discuss buying medication from dodgy sources, risking your health and treat it like it’s a joke.

Its akin to pro-ana chat rooms.

This thread confirms everything I've feared about these weightloss drugs. Bloody hell, it's so scary. And I say that as an overweight person.

To be fair, that is the first time I have seen anything like that on here. It's in the main giving sensible advice.

How making it more difficult for those that need the meds by trying to claim it fraudulently, in the spirit of supporting other women too I wonder.

yes I suppose so
they aren’t and won’t be the only ones doing this

you only have to spend a few mins looking on insta or tick tock find the “off prescription ones

This is so true. I was interested in Mounjaro and so read some of the threads on here, where it was routinely suggested that people should flout the rules and lie to get drugs.
A lot of weight problems stems from emotional issues, and the disordered thinking is very very clear from people's attitudes to these drugs. It goes from a food obsession to a Mounjaro obsession, whatever the cost. Every concern is shouted down with "but obesity is bad for my health!" as if that justifies taking drugs that haven't been approved for them.

That’s scary. Pretty much since the history of man, have people tampered with medications like this. I remember when people were unknowingly scammed by silicone injections in their body instead of dermal filler for example.

There could be absolutely anything in what your friends are getting from their “gym contact”. Are you not worried about them?

I also think it’s irresponsible of the gym to allow this to continue. They can’t be expected to police conversations at the gym especially if it doesn’t involve their employees, but it absolutely ruins their brand image if their business was the source of people getting poorly. I go to the gym and would feel preyed upon if someone approached me trying to sell me weight loss injections

the clue is in 'celebs'... its money! i'm fairly sure anyone can get anything if they have the money!

size 16 is not massively overweight to some people! some people have worked very hard and overvome some massive obstacles to get too a size 16! perhaps you need to speak to someone about your views on your own weight and how you view it?

100%! I’m a nurse and we know of a case recently in our area where a young adult was taking more than they were prescribed and died of kidney failure. There’s something to be said for lying to obtain a drug to put your pancreas into overdrive when nobody knows the long term effects

This.
You dont qualify
You've admitted eating too much.
Adjust your portion sizes

Just to be clear. I am overweight (talking bmi of 40) And have other health issues and am on MJ.

However, I am also really concerned about these types of threads with people normalising lying to obtain it, or normalising obtaining it from someone’s mate at the gym.

These medications have their place, imo. But I find this really concerning.

There are vastly more people who don't and have never advocated any kind of fraudulent or illegal behaviour regarding these medications. There always seems to be these odd posters who pop up and say variations along the lines of my mate gets it from the gym/beautician or similar and claims it's easy.

The weight loss injections threads are full of people who have legally obtained them from registered prescribers, using them properly and being responsible. There are a small minority of people who suggest things that are either dubious or illegal. I challenge it when I see it, and would encourage others to do so too.

I’d try somewhere else and knock 2 inches off your height. That’ll make your BMI 30.

I had to fib to get mine.

Not only that, in addition so many people advocate to do whatever with the drugs too ie not follow the instructions. It’s openly discussed…

Please stop advising this!

Quite. Unfortunately people buy all kinds of medicine on the black market. There's a big market for ADHD medication, for example. Doesn't make it right, but also doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with ADHD medication being prescribed properly. Just that where there's medication, there's money, and where people want to save money or take stuff they aren't entitled to, there are ways to get it illicitly. Unfortunately not limited to weight loss injections, which generally are very safe when prescribed and supplied by a pharmacy or doctor, just like other prescription medication.

People have always taken black market weight loss stuff. I remember in the early 2000s a lot of stuff about weight loss pills people were buying that caused harm because you don't know what's in them.

Contacts in the gym are likely selling semaglutide powder (which may or may not be mixed with god knows what).

Every concern is shouted down with "but obesity is bad for my health!" as if that justifies taking drugs that haven't been approved for them.

Mounjaro has been approved for weightloss. This isn't the issue here.

Why? The OP is very overweight, she’s only fractionally below a BMI of 30. Mounjaro will change her life and make her so much healthier. An arbitrary BMI threshold should have a bit of flexibility.

Stop advising that someone lie to get medication. You can do what you want with your own body but don't be responsible for someone else possibly making the wrong choice.

I'm not sure about it confirming everything you've "feared about these weightloss drugs" but hopefully what it tells you isn't anything about the weightloss drugs themselves but about people who will do anything to get what they want, just like for any other medication/hard drug and in any other way (politics, religion, etc).

The issue is unscrupulous people (I don't mean OP, just the ones who're commiting crimes), not the legal drugs or the registered and licensed medical providers.

They probably pay. Or go to a quack doctor. Join a slimming group.

If too many people like you try to bend the rules and lie to get a prescription for it, it could well cause supply issues with people who are genuinely obese by a significant degree obtaining it. Please be considerate.

If you are only in the overweight category then clearly your body hasn’t suffered the same long-term damage that others have (I say this as someone with a BBI of 40+) there is every chance that you can get things back under control quickly. Have you tried weight loss groups like slimming world?

Exactly. Some of the responses are batshit crazy when a lot of people carry on using the medication at BMI below 30.

The OP’s BMI is 29.9. Just 0.1 away from qualifying. No-one considering Mounjaro has not tried dieting before this point. It’s really patronising and insensitive to suggest this or a slimming group.

No-one would advise tweaking her stats by a hair’s breadth if she wasn’t so close to obese. Alternatively, she could overeat for 3 days and she’d be there anyway. That’s how close she is.

As has already been said, the people who take Mounjaro with a BMI below 30 predominantly started when their BMI was much higher, and have been gradually titrating up from a low dose to carefully introduce the medication into their bodies. As has already been said, this is in line with how Mounjaro has been carefully and intentionally designed as a prescription medication for weightloss in extremely overweight people. It has not been designed, or intended, for use in patients who start at a lower BMI. How is this so difficult to understand? It is the very definition of 'batshit crazy' to use prescription medication in a way which goes against the intent of years of medical research!