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Just a note re "I did x and mine are fine"

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hunkermunker · 24/10/2008 23:14

If the children to whom you refer aren't 85 (at least), it's not all that bright a statement.

That's all.

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mrsruffallo · 26/10/2008 22:56

But PC says you musn't speak for other women, Awen. Just yourself

Beachcomber · 26/10/2008 22:57

Again for the record, I only started to consider vaccination as having played a part in DD1's illness because she reacted badly at the time to her DTP.

She had two jabs, with the first one she went into a deep sleep, was unrousable for over six hours and then woke with high pitched screaming which continued off and on until the next day. I now know this is certainly an adverse reaction to a vaccine.

The second time her leg (injection site) almost doubled in size and was very red and hot to touch for about two weeks after vaccination. DD ran a very high fever and was out of sorts for weeks. She had a nodule in her leg for three months at the injection site.

I only began to read up on adverse events after the event but had been keeping a food diary on the advice of an osteopath for quite some time. Looking back on this diary, it is clear that DD's condition worsened in the days following her DTP.

At 4.5 months she was diagnosed failure to thrive, had constant intestinal pain, bowel problems, hair loss, temperature control problems, lymph gland nodules and her eczema had spread to her whole body.

I know that her vaccines played a role in all this. I know of many other parents who have a similar story and feel the same way.

Sorry, don't want to move this thread away from the importance of BF and not weaning too early but I really feel that there are deeper, more controversial issues that use BF/weaning to hide behind.

PoppyCock · 26/10/2008 22:58

nope. just you, mrsr. you're the one appointing yourself the guardian of women who may feel guilty... when your time might be better spent helping them to access information so that they could make informed decisions thus giving them No Reason to feel guilty again.

you are dealing with a symptom, not the problem.

AbricotsSecs · 26/10/2008 22:59

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mrsruffallo · 26/10/2008 22:59

No one is disagreeing that extended {over a year) breastfeeding is best are they?
What's all the fuss about?

hunkermunker · 26/10/2008 22:59

Designed to be divisive? It was started in some frustration, granted, but designed to be divisive, no.

You seem to be confusing me with Awen there, though, Mabanana? And I've not been on this thread since the very start of it - I had stuff to do yesterday and today. But if you know me on here, you'll know the last thing I am is sneering and ill-informed.

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FrankAwenstein · 26/10/2008 22:59

Will come back tomorrow nite, but off to bed now. Been up since 5. xx

mabanana · 26/10/2008 23:00

But I'm not in that 'we' am I?
What is unsubstantiated is the claim that breastfeeding reduces the risk of allergy (particularly in the long-term risk), and the woolly use of the term 'early weaning' when there is no link between solids after the first three months and allergies.

PoppyCock · 26/10/2008 23:00

shit, beachcomber, sorry to hear that, sounds awful. i've got a dd who was six weeks prem, they want me to immunise her according to the normal timeline, from her d.o.b. this seems early to me, cos she's still so tiny... do you have any thoughts?

mrsruffallo · 26/10/2008 23:01

I am not appointing myself guardian of anything, just offering some insight and a distaste for the style of the OP.

hunkermunker · 26/10/2008 23:02

MrsR, come on now, don't be disingenuous. It's distaste for me, not the style of my OP. This isn't the first time you've done this to me and it won't be the last.

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mabanana · 26/10/2008 23:02

"sorry i should have worded that 'I feel I and other women who breastfeed'. That better?"
Awen, why do you assume that everyone who has breastfed a baby feels and thinks exactly the same? That there is a 'them' and 'us' that is only between people who breastfeed and those who don't. And God knows where you pigeonhole all of those who did both.

hunkermunker · 26/10/2008 23:05

"Actually it really does piss me off in the whole bottle breast debate that often breastfeeders are often understanding that some mums would have loved to have bfed but havient for various reasons but we still get branded for being pouncy superior what nots."

Don't think that's quite an accurate take on what Awen was saying, Mabanana. It's often "women who breastfeed" who are lumped together into a mass by those who choose to sneer at them, be they women who don't breastfeed, men young and old or the media.

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 26/10/2008 23:06

Ah i see. No, breastfeeding doesnt reduce the risk of developing allergies.

Formula feeding has been linked in some studies to it, and, weaning before 17 weeks has. Slightly different thing.

mrsruffallo · 26/10/2008 23:07

What?
No,it's not you Hunker
I am aware we have disagreed in the past but I would not argue with you for the sake of it, only if I truly feel I had a point to make. I don't know you, it's not personal.

I actually think I have argued in the past with everyone posting on here, not just you

And I was always right

trixymalixy · 26/10/2008 23:07

I am another one who is still breastfeeding my nearly 2 years old DS.

He was breastfed exclusively for 6 months and then weaned at 6 months.

He has multiple food allergies.

These allergies were apparent before he had eaten any of the foods. He had been exposed to the allergens and was reacting to them through my breastmilk.

I have been wondering recently about the virgin gut theory and breastfeeding and allergies and whether breastfeeding really is better for allergies, and I have been really interested reading mabanana's links.

mabanana · 26/10/2008 23:09

Er, that's a direct quote Hunkermunker!
I asked who the 'we' in Awen's post referred to.

hunkermunker · 26/10/2008 23:12

Breastfeeding will never protect all children against everything (or all mothers - eg there are women who breastfeed who will get breast cancer and osteoporosis).

It's a risk thing. You have a higher risk of x, y and z if you are formula-fed than breastfed. Like you have a higher risk of a shark biting you if you're in the water than you do on dry land (although there was a man who was driving behind a dead shark on a flat-bed truck - it stopped suddenly and the shark came through his windscreen and "bit" him).

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hunkermunker · 26/10/2008 23:13

I know it was a direct quote, Mabanana. I was saying I thought it could be read two ways.

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Beachcomber · 26/10/2008 23:13

I'm off to bed folks. I'm in France and it is an hour later than the UK plus clock change!

Hope to continue this discussion tomorrow.

Hoochiemomma I will contact you when I have a mo.

Poopycock, I would take your time and do some research. There are lots of good books and websites on the subject. I know a lot of people think this is a good book to start off with www.amazon.co.uk/Truth-About-Vaccines-Without-Knowing/dp/1903933927/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1 225062658&sr=1-1

Thank you for your kind words.

Both my DDs were slightly prem and I now know that this added to their risk of adverse reaction.

TinkerBellesMum · 26/10/2008 23:15

Aitch, leave it till you feel she's ready. Once you've been late for one they will adjust all the others so they're the same gap. They can't make you take her and will just do it when you do.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 26/10/2008 23:16

There is still so much unknown about allergies. Much of DD's were present at or just after birth. I've pondered everything from diet (avoided all the stuff you are told to) syntocin drip to vitamin k injection.

Beachcomber · 26/10/2008 23:17

Sorry POPPYCOCK not Poopycock!

'Tis definitely time for bed.

PoppyCock · 26/10/2008 23:17

is that what you did, tm?

tiktok · 26/10/2008 23:20

why was I deleted???

I can't remember what that precise post was, but it would not be anything terrible!

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