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Do Not BLW!

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user1494494728 · 11/05/2017 10:29

Yesterday was the final straw, I can’t keep my mouth shut any longer, Baby Led Weaning has gone seriously, dangerously wrong (if it was ever even right to start with).

I attend a weekly mums group, of which I (as far as I’ve worked out) am the only one who is doing traditional weaning. Yesterday, I sat quietly and watched a 7 month old baby have a bacon sandwich for her lunch. A BACON FUCKING SANDWICH. After producing this nutritional feast for her toothless child the mother then looks around and asks where she needs to go to get baby vitamins. It took everything in me not to scream out ‘try the vegetable aisle in the supermarket you stupid bitch!’. I asked if this was the childs lunch or just a snack, to which the reply was, oh no it’s her lunch, she loves bacon and it’s so easy for her to hold’, well… so is a fucking shoelace but I wouldn’t give it to my baby for lunch. Meanwhile, another mother next to me opens a tub of humous and gives it to her 6 month old baby (yes, the whole pot) with a handful of toast. The other mothers chimed in and said how incredibly healthy the baby was because it was eating chickpeas, clearly they have no idea how much salt is in a slice of bread let alone a full sized tub of humous (some pots of humous are known to contain 4 entire crisp bags worth of salt). For dinner that night this same child would go on to sit at the table and gum at a piece of carrot and lump of chicken. Try and working out how much nutrition this child has had today?

In reality there’s only so much you can give a 6 month old baby who hasn’t got any teeth and has swallowed nothing but milk it’s entire life. Going from this to sticking a lump of celery of even chicken in it’s hand is bloody cruel. Naturally it’s going to want to play with it before it eats it, which is why all BLW mums say 99% of the food lands on the floor and very little in the childs actual mouth.

I recently found out that not only has virtually no research been done on BLW, but it was also invented by a Healthvisitor. We have been feeding babies on healthy, nutritious purees for thousands of years then a health vistor comes along with no research whatsoever and starts a fad. The only clear research done on BLW shows that it can be harmful to babies who are struggling to gain weight, doesn’t that tell you enough? (for the mum who’s thinking blenders haven’t been around that long remember that in third world countries today women are still chewing food up and feeding it to their babies, it’s naturally what we are supposed to do, BLW is NOT natural).

Then there is the choking hazard which I’m only going to step on lightly, the day you see your own child properly choke (and one day it will happen) will possibly be the worst day of your life. Why risk this earlier than need be? It’s ludicrous, what’s the rush and what’s the point other than putting your child at risk for a fad? One of the mothers at the group recently said ‘oh he’s only choked a few times’. Well for me that’s a few times too many. And no, a baby CAN NOT choke on puree, if you’re confused as to why look up the definition of choking.

Bread is easy, cheap and soft, it’s fast becoming the staple food of choice for BLW mumies and there’s no arguing that, I’ve watched it happen first hand. In those first years of life a babies cells are developing the fastest they will ever develop again, this is the time that as their mummy we need to step up and make sure we give our child everything they need, it not about giving the baby a choice it’s about giving them a chance and a healthy start. Yes if you want to give your child hand held snacks, great - do it all day AS SNACKS, but please get in your kitchens and make up some healthy, nutritious pureed or mashed foods and spoon feed every last little drop into their mouths, this time will go so fast and least then you can look back and say you gave them the best start you possibly could.

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seafoodeatit · 11/05/2017 11:20

'We have been feeding babies on healthy, nutritious purees for thousands of years'

and here we have the remains of an anglo saxon man with the traidtional burial items of brooch, spear and what appears a blender motor.

are you trolling by any chance? Either way you clearly know nothing about weaning or it's history. So, in the fashion to which you're accustomed to speaking to people, do fuck off dear.

user1494494728 · 11/05/2017 11:21

furballfantatsic, sorry do you mean the same way that mothers in third world countries do for their babies when that's the only option they have??

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TortoiseBeep · 11/05/2017 11:21

I really think Ella's Kitchen need to re-think their PR strategy.

Grin
furballfantastic · 11/05/2017 11:23

furballfantatsic, sorry do you mean the same way that mothers in third world countries do for their babies when that's the only option they have

I meant what I said.

toomuchtooold · 11/05/2017 11:27

We have been feeding babies on healthy, nutritious purees for thousands of years

Fuck yeah. I remember seeing those Bronze Age moulis when I visited the British Museum.

TurquoiseDress · 11/05/2017 11:27

I've never 'got' the whole BLW thing to be honest.

For my LO, just made loads of purees with vegetables and chicken or fish, they loved it (presumably, as they ate it all up) and it was very easy to see how much they had eaten i.e. would freeze puree in pots.

It's just one of those things that parents will debate about forever IMO, neither way is better than the other.

Personally, I could not be bothered with all the mess (there's enough mess with puree!) and wondering how much exactly has been eaten by LO.

The funniest thing I saw was this woman in a restaurant with her baby, who could not have been much more than 6 months- trying to feed it a roast dinner, and making such a thing about thing about how clever & advanced her baby was by 'eating' a roast dinner.

As far as I could see, most of it ended up on floor- and had to be picked up by the waiting staff after the family had left.

JassyRadlett · 11/05/2017 11:29

We have been feeding babies on healthy, nutritious purees for thousands of years

In a golden post, this was the bestest bit. Thanks OP! Grin

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/05/2017 11:29

There is no one size fits all. I wished when dd was far less than 18 months that I'd done blw with my dd because by then she would only eat one type of food for weeks or months, then go onto something else and it was a hell of a job to get the right balance. I don't think there is one size fits all and yes, I thought the added benefit of this was as it encourages children to eat vegetables as they got older.

ekfjieiowhjiodffiojefkl · 11/05/2017 11:30

We have been feeding babies on healthy, nutritious purees for thousands of years

do you mean the same way that mothers in third world countries do for their babies when that's the only option they have

user1491572121 · 11/05/2017 11:31

*Turquoise# I did it because it was easier than making purees. Obviously I did a few purees but why not just hand over a potato rather than have to mash it all up?

They do enjoy holding things and eating them. I also found spoon feeding a bit tedious.

TheBruteSquad · 11/05/2017 11:31

Wait, is that suitable for babies?

No, ok I better just eat it then.

JassyRadlett · 11/05/2017 11:32

MiniAlphaBravo they chewed the food and then gave to the babies. Like birds

Depending on the period and culture, exclusive breastfeeding often lasted a lot longer, until babies/toddlers were more able to chew for themselves.

user1494494728 · 11/05/2017 11:33

poster ekfjieiowhjiodffiojefkl - PUREE DEFINTION - creamed / liquidised or CRUSHED fruit or veg. It doesn't matter how it got there, teeth or blender... shocked at how many people can't get their head around this??! Babies have been having puree for thousands of years.

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underneaththeash · 11/05/2017 11:37

OP there is quite a lot of research on BLW, if you google "baby lead weaning abstract" you'll get a long list of the research that has been done and most of it is positive, there's only one paper, which I suspect is the one you've read, that is very negative.

There's also three papers that show than the risk/rate of choking is similar with purees as it is with BLW, one with good methodology is here.

[]pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/138/4/e20160772]]

I did home-made purees with DS1, DS2 didn't like being spoon fed, so I did BLW, DD didn't like eating at all, she only really started on solids at 10 months and we did a mixture of both.
All three are fairly typical eaters, they eat a range of fruit and veg, prefer children's food still, but generally eat similar things.

It is very clear from the guidelines though that babies shouldn't have salt added to their food. But you can do BLW without giving them a bacon sandwich.

rogueantimatter · 11/05/2017 11:38

Hello?

Hello?

My questions about blw were genuine!

Jaxhog · 11/05/2017 11:39

Err, isn't it none of your business?

ekfjieiowhjiodffiojefkl · 11/05/2017 11:39

Are you going to inform the baby group of all this information then? Surely your campaign would be better started at a grass-roots level? This seems very important to you. The best place to start would be IRL surely.

Hullabaloo31 · 11/05/2017 11:42

And I'm sure they were handed chunks of food for thousands of years too.

Craiconwithit · 11/05/2017 11:42

Bored Daily Fail journo?

hiimmumma · 11/05/2017 11:44

This is hilarious.
*grabs popcorn and places in front of 6MO baby..

So ridiculous. What exactly is the intended outcome of this post?
No ones going to change what they are doing.

Makes more sense to me that my what baby eats vaguely resembles what it's supposed to look like. Rather than everything being mushed beyond recognition.

silkpyjamasallday · 11/05/2017 11:45

Well I think your examples are quite extreme but I agree that the fad of BLW is a bit Confused the family I know who do 'pure BLW' have a baby a little older than my dd (who has mostly purée with some finger foods off our plate if suitable) and she was 2lbs heavier than our dd at birth and is now 5lbs less despite being older and I think it is because she weaned herself off milk because she was having three 'meals' a day from early on most of which wasn't actually being consumed. I'm very much sticking to food before one is just for fun and making sure breastfeeding is still DDs main source of nutrition, so I only give one 'meal' a day of purée with some finger food snacks if I have any to hand.

People need to be well informed on nutrition before they start weaning their baby whichever way they do it, someone feeding a bacon sandwich to a baby is clearly intellectually challenged.

seafoodeatit · 11/05/2017 11:47

rogueantimatter What is the point of puree weaning? apart from what, the fact that you can give it a lot sooner than guidelines suggest? Why does food need to be pureed? What is wrong with acknowledging that a lot of babies can manage textured food around the recommended age of weaning? Why would you assume that someone BLW would not follow guidelines on salt, sugar and fat based on their weaning method alone?

Maybe you should consider that BLW is only a 'thing' as many people have moved against nutritionally empty baby rice from 3/4 months and trying to move away from the idea of it being 'traditional' weaning when in reality it's a lot more complicated than that and linked much more to what became commercially available 50's onwards rather than medical research and health advantages, see also formula, or anything else marketed at parents.

Lolly49 · 11/05/2017 11:52

I tried all purée turned my back for a minute at party and Dd age one is munching on a chicken leg like Henry viii.Gave up then ps Dd now 20 and vegetarian

waterlego6064 · 11/05/2017 11:54

GET IN YOUR KITCHENS

Lol

Bisquick · 11/05/2017 11:55

Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but I'm preeeety sure BLW wasn't invented by a HV (and no need to sneer at a HV either). In Asia, where I am from, babies went from breast milk to whatever the rest of the family was eating until just a generation ago.