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pavillion1 · 27/09/2026 15:42

Can someone explain to me what is going on in Northern Ireland? As Simply as possible.

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LeanBackAgain · 27/09/2026 15:42

In what respect?

Crudd99 · 27/09/2026 15:43

Do you mean about the march that was meant to go on today?

pavillion1 · 27/09/2026 15:44

Crudd99 · 27/09/2026 15:43

Do you mean about the march that was meant to go on today?

Yes if you wouldn’t mind

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Viviennemary · 27/09/2026 15:46

Crudd99 · 27/09/2026 15:43

Do you mean about the march that was meant to go on today?

That's possibly what OP meant. In a nutshell. The protestants want to march through a Catholic area banging drums. Catholics said no way. The court gave permission anyway for march to start at 8 am. Last I heard was it hadn't gone ahead yet.

UserName001002 · 27/09/2026 15:48

The parades commission were finding this whole peace malarkey a bit boring so decided to spice it up a bit by sanctioning an orange order parade (proddys) through the Catholic garvaghy road for the first time in 28 years.

pavillion1 · 27/09/2026 15:48

Viviennemary · 27/09/2026 15:46

That's possibly what OP meant. In a nutshell. The protestants want to march through a Catholic area banging drums. Catholics said no way. The court gave permission anyway for march to start at 8 am. Last I heard was it hadn't gone ahead yet.

Thank you and it’s not happened since 1998 ?

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Allmydays2 · 27/09/2026 15:49

Viviennemary · 27/09/2026 15:46

That's possibly what OP meant. In a nutshell. The protestants want to march through a Catholic area banging drums. Catholics said no way. The court gave permission anyway for march to start at 8 am. Last I heard was it hadn't gone ahead yet.

There is also an alternative route that they have used for over 25, years but the orange order want this one,through a Catholic area. Last time they done it there was people killed. So the residents don't Want it. As far as I am aware this is what is happening.

Crudd99 · 27/09/2026 15:49

I'm not an expert but the protestants wanted to march down a road and the Catholics wanted to stop them. There hasn't been a march for 30 years to keep the peace. A lot of people on either side are angry about it. Perhaps someone will add to this as I don't really know much. I'm on neither side by the way.

pavillion1 · 27/09/2026 15:49

Thank you for replying.. it’s seems pretty prevalent on the news today

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DoubleShotEspresso · 27/09/2026 16:01

To answer your question, there has been no parade on Garvaghy Road for 28 years, since 1997.

This is a deeply Catholic enclave, but within a largely Protestant area.

Due to what awful evebts happened in 1997, involving the murder of 21, including 3 young brothers and 10 x Catholic Churches being set alight, the Parades Commission have declined requests for the Orange March (Protestants/Prebytsrians) as its so contentious.

Yetvthey have applied every year, to make their point, sensibly their requests have been refused.

The Parades Commission declined again this year, BUT….

Fir reasons nobody of sound mind from either side will understand, at about 2am this morning, the High Court overturned the decision, instructing that the Orange March must happen no later than 8.30am

They assembled at a church at 8am but are yet to be permitted to March due to the PSNI stating they’re unable to facilitate it as there are 1000’s of residents and protestors linking arms blocking the road since late last night, despite torrential rain.

Neither side are backing down and both crowds growing in nimber.

Both sides have bussed crowds in.

Riot police are on site but not enough in number to move protestors or remove Orange men and their crowd.

Sun is now out.

Unhelpfully many senior politicians have publicly sided with crowds, one wearing a Rangers jacket (fgs) and Sinn Fein are adamant this March won’t happen.

if police in riot gear attempt to move Catholic protesters it’s safe to say any chance of a united Ireland will be decimated.

Yet the Orange men are insisting the “rule of law” be applied and are behaving as if these folks are all of the “help your granny across the street vsriety”. They’re not.
Neither are many being bussed in wearing balaclavas for the Catholic side.

I doubt this will end well, it’s impossible for authorities to make decisions as any decision is likely to result in a bloodbath riot.

This is a simplified explanation but I hope this helps.

Anonanonanonagain · 27/09/2026 17:08

@DoubleShotEspresso perfect summary I have to say. Whomever approved this needs to be removed asap.

HollyhockDays · 27/09/2026 17:21

It’s an absolute disgrace. The parades commission should be totally ashamed of themselves. Expect absolute scenes in Stormont tomorrow and possibly a collapse of the government executive. How can they work together.

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 27/09/2026 17:23

I have no connections to Ireland and no skin in this game but my understanding of the Orange Order is that they are basically Protestant supremacists similar to white supremacists thinking they are actually superior to Catholics and that this parade is a blatant attempt to assert their (mythical) authority and they know full well it's nothing but trouble.
I am old and saw the Troubles unfold and this is a scandalous provocation and attempt to return to the past horror rather than take the path of healing and reconciliation. IMHO.

DoubleShotEspresso · 27/09/2026 17:32

Anonanonanonagain · 27/09/2026 17:08

@DoubleShotEspresso perfect summary I have to say. Whomever approved this needs to be removed asap.

Thanks have just seen my awful typos, am wearing old glasses because my normal ones are “here somewhere”!

What a bloody disgraceful decision, I really hope crowds clear but cannot see how…

DoubleShotEspresso · 27/09/2026 17:34

TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 27/09/2026 17:23

I have no connections to Ireland and no skin in this game but my understanding of the Orange Order is that they are basically Protestant supremacists similar to white supremacists thinking they are actually superior to Catholics and that this parade is a blatant attempt to assert their (mythical) authority and they know full well it's nothing but trouble.
I am old and saw the Troubles unfold and this is a scandalous provocation and attempt to return to the past horror rather than take the path of healing and reconciliation. IMHO.

Yes, correct.

It would not be an exaggeration say this is probably the earliest these men have been up n doing in decades.
Deeply offensive & dangerous. The inflammatory element here is so high it is unspeakable.

DoubleShotEspresso · 27/09/2026 17:47

Now I am reading of Gerry Adams arrival at the protest 😠🙄😑

Viviennemary · 27/09/2026 18:50

DoubleShotEspresso · 27/09/2026 17:47

Now I am reading of Gerry Adams arrival at the protest 😠🙄😑

That should help calm things down.

pavillion1 · 27/09/2026 18:53

I was just saddened that with everything else going on in the world right now this has happened. I was born in the 80s and remember the constant unrest but to young to know anything..
why would they do something so stupid 🤷🏻‍♀️

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BareGrylls · 27/09/2026 19:06

@DoubleShotEspresso
Thanks for the explanation.
I'm old and English so I grew up knowing about the troubles but like most English never really understood the passions involved.
When I saw this on TV this morning with Michelle O'Neil and Mary MacDonald having conniptions I was curious as to why after all these years the unionists were wanting to do this. I admit I didn't know that the orange parades were even still a thing because it never gets a mention in the press or TV. The parades commission - that there is still such a thing in 2026 is unbelievable. The GFA should have knocked all that sort of thing on both sides for good.

I wondered if it was anything to do with Trump's comments and the unionists wanting to make the point that not everyone in NI wants unity.

DoubleShotEspresso · 27/09/2026 19:24

BareGrylls · 27/09/2026 19:06

@DoubleShotEspresso
Thanks for the explanation.
I'm old and English so I grew up knowing about the troubles but like most English never really understood the passions involved.
When I saw this on TV this morning with Michelle O'Neil and Mary MacDonald having conniptions I was curious as to why after all these years the unionists were wanting to do this. I admit I didn't know that the orange parades were even still a thing because it never gets a mention in the press or TV. The parades commission - that there is still such a thing in 2026 is unbelievable. The GFA should have knocked all that sort of thing on both sides for good.

I wondered if it was anything to do with Trump's comments and the unionists wanting to make the point that not everyone in NI wants unity.

There has been a great deal of commentary today referencing Trump.
I detest the man & he’s surely nit helped, but think there’s more to this. I saw the news come in late last night & just find this chilling and such a disgraceful setback for all of Ireland.

pavillion1 · 27/09/2026 20:16

Can I add and it’s my sinister head thinking . to agree to this at 2am could it be that what has been found in Gloucestershire today has it been allowed on purpose to take heat away from what has been uncovered in England .

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Calling · 27/09/2026 20:20

pavillion1 · 27/09/2026 20:16

Can I add and it’s my sinister head thinking . to agree to this at 2am could it be that what has been found in Gloucestershire today has it been allowed on purpose to take heat away from what has been uncovered in England .

I really don't think so.

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