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(how) would you respond to this punishment from school?

107 replies

catonthebeds · 30/06/2026 18:42

DS is in Yr9, no issues with behaviour up to this point. Had a call today from a teacher to let me know he had made an inappropriate gesture in class today - she described it as he made a "simulated oral sex" gesture to a friend. This has been classed as inappropriate sexualised language and DS has been given a level 3 sanction - a day in the 'reflection room'. This is the level below an exclusion.

She explained the decision to award level 3 was the decision of the head of year, and also that my son had claimed not to know what the gesture was. So as not to drip feed, the lesson was a history lesson on Section 28 so she said this added to her judgement that it was particularly inappropriate as could be reflecting homophobia. I haven't spoken to my son yet as he is at a club, however he has messaged me on the way to tell me he has a detention (obviously he doesn't know it's actually a L3) and he thinks he shouldn't have one because he says he was copying a friend to ask what the gesture meant - I am dubious of that excuse TBH, but I do think he wasn't being intentionally homophobic.

I felt on the call that a day in reflection room was perhaps a bit harsh for what DS did in itself (though appreciate that the extra context of the lesson topic means the it could be viewed as more offensive). Regardless, my basic assumption on behaviour is that parents should support the school. Both teachers involved have always been positive about DS in the past so I figured - this is their call, they are making it based on their professional judgement and knowledge of the behaviour policy, not from any ill will to him. So I told her thanks for letting me know, we'd support their decision.

However now I am fretting a bit, as I do think a full day out of lessons is pretty harsh. I don't know if it's even worth raising with the head of year as, having looked at the policy, there is no lower sanction for inappropriate sexualised language. I can't work out if it goes on his record in a more permanent way than a standard detention.

I never wanted to be that parent who kicks up a fuss for their special child, but faced now with something that feels unfair a big bit of me wants to argue on his behalf for a different sanction or at least work out how long it will be on his record and if it will impact a trip he is booked in on for next academic year (and argue that it shouldn't, if it does).

I think I want someone to either remind me that he has to accept the consequences and give me some pre-emptive resolve to deal with his complaints when he realises the actual punishment. Or, to tell me that actually yes I should stand up for him because it is a harsh punishment. but how would I do that, is it even worth challenging or do I just end up damaging our relationship with the staff?

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WhatNoRaisins · 30/06/2026 18:47

I'd let it go. It's just one day and it's not like he's going to have to declare it to future employers.

Visiblyabove25 · 30/06/2026 18:47

TBH even if you do think it’s harsh, I would support the school.

There is a really big problem with sexualised behaviour from young men in schools, and given the context, there’s every chance he and his friend were being homophobic - even if it was for a joke, rather than malicious.

If it were me, I’d sympathise with my son but tell him he needs to take the punishment and learn from it.

I wouldn’t give him any further punishment at home though, other than an open non judgmental conversation about why he did it and what he’d do differently another time.

Hopefully it’s a good opportunity for him to reflect on the fact it’s not just your intentions that matter - you need to be mindful of how other people might interpret them.

TheFallenMadonna · 30/06/2026 18:49

I would fully support the sanction and have a conversation with my son about sexualised behaviour.

Balloonhearts · 30/06/2026 18:50

I think that's fair tbh. Like fuck he didn't know what it meant. He's what 14? Not 4. It's a disgusting gesture to be making and especially inappropriate in the context of the lesson. I'd be punishing at home as well for that, he'd be on mandatory Internet detox. No phone for the weekend.

pimplebum · 30/06/2026 18:50

Great that the school are clamping down on sexualised behaviours

good that he is getting a sharp lesson in what is acceptable

you need to suck it up and back the school

Smartiepants79 · 30/06/2026 18:50

Support school.
Sexualised inappropriate behaviour is a serious issue with boys his age in schools. It needs to be dealt with quickly and firmly. Hopefully he will be put off being so gross another time.

kaylot · 30/06/2026 18:50

He knew what it meant and it was having a laugh. The gesture isnt homophobic ffs

Tulipvase · 30/06/2026 18:51

I work in pastoral care in a secondary school and that doesn’t seem overly harsh to me.

WhatNoRaisins · 30/06/2026 18:52

I do think, particularly with boys, they often need to be told that while they may not have had bad intentions they have to consider how this sort of thing looks to others or makes other people feel.

AgnesMcDoo · 30/06/2026 18:52

I’d totally support the school on this. He needs to learn this is completely unacceptable.

SweepSqueaks · 30/06/2026 18:52

I just think that things like this are in the policy or in the school rules and that’s the consequence and you just need to do it.

It’s like getting a lunchtime detention when the bus is late. Schools do not have the time to investigate every lateness so if you are late you get a lunchtime detention.

Claiming he didn’t know what it was probably made it worse. Like not knowing 8x8 in a maths lesson. He was arsing around and he wasn’t concentrating on the lesson.

Fedupwiththecuts · 30/06/2026 18:53

As the parent of daughters who are subject to this behaviour around them frequently, I wish all schools took it as seriously.
It starts with a 'joke' copying etc, but escalates quickly.
I would support school in this and talk about appropriate behaviours with my son.

LondonKara · 30/06/2026 18:53

there is no lower sanction for inappropriate sexualised language

Unfortunately given the culture in schools around inappropriate sexualised behaviour, which usually targets girls and lgbt kids, this hard line is something I would support. You should have a conversation with your DS about why it is taken so seriously if it seems out of proportion to him too. There is a reason for the harsh zero tolerance.

NearlyNewNonny · 30/06/2026 18:53

I'd be OK with that.

Teenagerantruns · 30/06/2026 18:54

Let it go, school doing what punishment they want is fine.
Hes not going to fail his exams for one day out of lessons.
Also l can absolutely guarantee he knew what gesture meant😂

Backstop · 30/06/2026 18:55

Didn’t know what it means😂😂😂
He tbought he could get away with it. That it was potentially homophobic too is something to investigate but even if it isn’t it is not ok in a classroom. The biggest issue ish where he doesn’t like a day in the reflection room.

HRHCurmudgeon · 30/06/2026 18:55

Your son behaved like a dick (pardon the pun) and the punishment is appropriate. Much better to come down hard on him now. I would let my child know I supported the school and why.

catonthebeds · 30/06/2026 18:56

Ok thanks all this has strengthened my resolve. Agree that it's highly unlikely he didn't know what it meant!

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Blimms · 30/06/2026 18:57

His behaviour was outrageous tbh. He knows exactly what it means. if my ds behaved like that I would be angry and really embarrassed.

You really need your work with the school to nip this in the bud, and you need to have a proper conversation with him. If you give him a pass on this you are creating the environment for even worse behaviour in the future.

Honeyhonayboo · 30/06/2026 18:58

Completely inappropriate behaviour from your son, whether or not it was homophobia no teacher should have to put up with teenage boys making sexual gestures in the classroom.

I think it’s actually insane that you are against the school here and feeling like your poor wee dear is being unfairly punished.

Honeyhonayboo · 30/06/2026 18:59

kaylot · 30/06/2026 18:50

He knew what it meant and it was having a laugh. The gesture isnt homophobic ffs

Having a laugh 🤦‍♀️

Snorlaxo · 30/06/2026 18:59

Of course a 14yo knows what it means 😂

I don’t think it was meant to be homophobic and it will hopefully be the last time he does the wanker/tosser gesture in class.

Blimms · 30/06/2026 19:00

Snorlaxo · 30/06/2026 18:59

Of course a 14yo knows what it means 😂

I don’t think it was meant to be homophobic and it will hopefully be the last time he does the wanker/tosser gesture in class.

He did worse than that. OP said it was a gesture simulating oral sex.

catonthebeds · 30/06/2026 19:03

And to be clear I agree he needs punishment and it was inappropriate and my first instinct was to trust the school s judgement. I think my reaction after that was that it felt like a lot to go straight to the second highest level, but I'm glad to get a strong and clear response that reminds me my first instinct was the right one

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KateSixer · 30/06/2026 19:04

I just think you have and he had to accept the punishment. There is no point battling the school.

Tbh I am way more concerned given the incredible range of genuinely fascinating British and global historical topics that could be studied that some strange person has decided s28 should be at the top of the list!

Not that I am in any way anti gay. But it's just so virtue signalling. I am fascinated to know what would happen if a child wrote an essay supporting the s28 legislation. Would they get excluded for this too?!