Can stables weigh my daughter rather than accept my word?

[TheQuaintLemonDuck]

Are stables entitled to weigh my daughter rather than just take my word for it?

So @TheQuaintLemonDuckdud dd manage to ride same pony or now a year older she’s too heavy

ive just come across your other thread. Wasn’t looking for it as know some mn like to stalk previous but popped up as someone replied on it

i don’t know why but was thinking your dd was 8/10/12 kinda age and gained weight

but shes 17 and it’s obvious she has - due to what you said

sounds harsh but if th club say no to this horse - it may help her acknowledge she has gained and to do something about it if she wants to ride

God, 17??
She shouldn’t be on a little kid’s pony at all, even if she hadn’t piled on the weight.

Lots of adults are small enough to ride ponies.

Why do you want to see ‘on Facebook’? You haven’t even weighed your daughter for 6 months. Kids grow! Stop being weird! Are you just a wind-up? Your posts are really odd.

To be fair - the op could have more than 1 daughter.

Though it is suggestive that her two posts on here are both about weight.

Remember ponies are up to 14.2 hh. They're not all little.

this. my daughter still rides her 12.1hh pony and she's 5"1-2 and nearly 12 stone. No issue.

Sorry?? How can there not be an issue at that weight and height on a 12.2 pony??

There is evidence that a pony of that size carrying that amount of weight is abusive.

For a start at those sizes your daughter couldn't even fit her arse in a saddle that was clear of the last rib. She's either spilling out of it or the saddle is too long.

im sorry but thats cruelty.

your daughter is quite heavy for her height. if she is a young adult i think if you were to check the bmi nhs calculator it would say she is overweight. i dont think ypu can use the calculator for kids though.

it could be that she is a good little rider and not thumping up and down on that poor pony’s back so not as bad as a beginner of that weight, but she is still too heavy for that pony.

i had a 13.1 connemara and rode bareback at 10 stone (the saddle would have taken me up another stone which i felt was not fair on him) so im not some kind of person whose lost touch with reality.

i knew i was a little too heavy for him and my legs dangled down past his belly so i checked with our old school sensible vet who knew him for a decade said he should be ok but will tell you when he’s had enough. I didn’t do much and he didn’t complain - until one day he just refused to canter (he never did that) and i thought fair enough and did not ride him again.

Now i dont know if you have checked with your vet but i cannot help but think your child is far far too heavy for that poor pony and should not be on it.

my 6 foot ex-boyfriend weighed 11 stone. id never have put him in a 12.2hh pony. Not because of his legs dangling round the pony’s legs but because he’s too heavy for it. 11 stone is not light.

please stop your heavy child riding a tiny pony.
at the very least you will damage its back and it will cost you in vet bills. i cannot understand why you think that’s ok.

I would imagine it's more to do with growth spurts and accuracy.
Parents might be filling out the form and think "weight - sure - last time we knew was 6st", and not realise their child has had a growth spurt. For the stables, they just want to be accurate for their ponies' safety.

Well, there should be an issue!

Why are you allowing this to happen?

Cobs are not the weight carriers people think. They are built for driving, their backs are typically short and can’t accommodate a saddle suitable for a heavier rider. My friends 13.1 can only take a 14 inch saddle which is the typical size of saddle for around a 5 yo dc. As below, a dead, non moving stag with its weight draped over a horse specifically bred to carry it is in no way similar to a heavy rider on their back. Absolutely horrified anyone at 12 stone is riding any 12.2 pony. My friend is devastated that my dd can no longer ride her ponies as they can be little toads for a smaller rider and she used to keep them ticking over. Dd is probably only about 8.5 stone

firstly its not for very long at a time. secondly if you saw her you wouldnt see any issue. she rides really lightly. I can even show you a pic/vid if you dont believe me x

what on earth

Rides lightly? Oh FFS this is cruelty. Please stop it. You need to have a conversation with her now.

you wouldnt say that if you saw her riding. PM me.

I think that's the correct thing to do. Actually actions like this would give me more confidence in a riding camp. I'd be happy there took the welfare of the horses seriously.

@BeAmberPanda is on a wind-up I think 😬 but we do actually know a stocky teenager who bought a tiiiny 11/12 hh pony. I honestly couldn't watch the videos she posts as it makes me so sad for the pony. I think people think that height matters more than weight so small in height teens/adults consider themselves petite enough to ride small ponies regardless of their weight.

Unfortunately, our riding school doesn't weigh anyone and allows pretty much anyone to ride anything, which is very hard to watch 😞 I have new respect for very strict organised riding schools like Trent Park (in North London) where they are very strict about weight restrictions and who can ride which pony and how much work the pony did that day.

@BeAmberPanda no frankly I don’t believe you because there’s no such thing as ‘riding lightly’ - 12 stone on a pony’s back is still 12 stone. Yes if she’s an experienced rider then she won’t be unbalanced and landing heavily but it’s still much more weight than a 12.1 pony should ever be expected to carry even for a second. If you and she care about the pony’s welfare, she should not be riding the pony and you should not be enabling her.

Is there any point in threads like this? OP is convinced it’s more important for her DD not to be embarrassed than for a pony to suffer with an overweight rider. OP, get over yourself, and get your DD onto the riding school scales.

You cannot "ride light", you weigh what you weigh.

You can "ride heavy" with insufficient core strength to properly control your own weight, and since fat had no muscle in it, people with obvious fat will nearly always fall into this category.

I defy anyone to be the size your daughter is and fit their backside into a saddle short enough to fit a tiny pony.

She is too big to be riding that pony, for any length of time, full stop.

I’m sorry but I consider that abusive. I wouldn’t let a 12 stone rider on my 14.3hh partbred welsh, let alone a 12.1hh pony.

And you can’t ride ‘light’. You can ride in balance so you don’t feel heavier than 12 stone to a horse, but you cannot ride lighter than 12 stone if you are 12 stone.
I do wonder where people’s brains have gone.