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The Ninth Republic - stand by for the return of Year 10

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 10/06/2020 16:24

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

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ohthegoats · 17/06/2020 21:58

It’ll be contracted out to Kip McGrath or Explore or whichever company donates most to the Tories

Yep. Or will be somehow linked to Teach First, or Michaela, or Reach, or blah blah usual suspects.

Piggywaspushed · 17/06/2020 21:59

Not Teach First : they are sacking trainees.

Maybe Eton...Cambridge, Oxford. Russell Group. STEM graduates.

noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 22:01

I currently charge £37-42 per hour

I suspect you won’t be interested in what they’ll be paying these tutors.

  1. The tutors will be current Y13 who are taking a gap year because they don’t want to go to Zoom Uni. They’ll turn up bright-eyed and bushy-tailed with a ‘just tell me what you want me to do!’ This will take some time.

  2. League tables, Ofsted and Performance Management will be back on and therefore the big catch-up for current Y10 and 12 will fall to their class teachers. This will be after school and unpaid.

ohthegoats · 17/06/2020 22:05

I used to do booster for SATs, and I also did tutoring in my NQT year - that scheme for PP children maybe? Also did some GCSE maths tutoring. But that was all about money, I don't need the money at the moment. Also don't agree with boosters for SATs.

noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 22:13
  1. There will be a row about how to fairly distribute the money: Grammar schools who have gone full zoom will be wanting their share. Schools who have not been monitoring which kids have submitted work will claim they need more money than schools who have kept meticulous records. Parents who have used Oak or Bitesize instead of the school provision will be offered tutoring. There will be an argument about how all kids’ education has been affected therefore they should all have a tutor. There will be an argument about whether keyworker kids should be allowed a tutor because they have been ‘in school all along’.

  2. Parents who are currently struggling with homeschooling will see this as a free pass to down tools because their kid will get a tutor.

StrawberryJam200 · 17/06/2020 22:13

@Piggywaspushed why do you think they'll be taken out of an option rather than PE? Perhaps because Boris is going to be on a mission to get us all to lose weight?

Piggywaspushed · 17/06/2020 22:15

Ah, noble you may have had a MN health break but you have certainly kept up with the bashing hysteria narrative!

Piggywaspushed · 17/06/2020 22:17

Yes, that's why strawberry. Obesity is a Big Thing these days. Pun intended.

They can avoid being bashed about MH if they keep them in health and wellbeing subjects and claim reducing workload by taking away their favourite subject an option is a Good Thing.

JimmyGrimble · 17/06/2020 22:17

Just out of interest noble, what’s been happening at Teach First?

MsAwesomeDragon · 17/06/2020 22:34

noble I think you're optimistic that it will be current year 13 as tutors. I think it will be current year 12s tutoring the younger years. The 2 nearest Kip McGrath centres to my school are all staffed by current sixth formers as their part time job around ALevels. It pays better than McDonald's or the takeaways which are the other employment opportunities available. I've had several of them ask me what they should be teaching year 9, etc, and their tutees aren't even at our school!

HedyPrism · 17/06/2020 22:36

I assume it's a reference to them not being able to find enough placements: www.tes.com/news/teach-first-cuts-cohort-120-due-lack-vacancies

ineedaholidaynow · 17/06/2020 22:36

So will schools get judged on the quality of work and results of the tutors?

MsAwesomeDragon · 17/06/2020 22:37

I hope you aren't right about kids being taken out of an option subject to do extra maths and English piggy. My school have done that before though, so there is plenty of history there. It's not fair though. Why should kids miss out on being able to continue with subjects they've actually chosen?

noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 22:47

It’s always PE at my school. Even options subjects affect progress 8.

Why are schools ditching Teach First trainees? Have fewer teachers quit than expected? Normally they are used to fill in timetable gaps after the resignation deadline.

noblegiraffe · 17/06/2020 22:49

I think it will be current year 12s tutoring the younger years.

Y12s will need their own catch up though. Self-teaching Y13 content has had mixed results here.

RigaBalsam · 17/06/2020 22:50

Apologies for daily mail link they are suggesting bolt on sessions at the end if the day!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8433465/Ministers-plan-children-spend-hours-classes-catch-lessons-missed-lockdown.html

CallmeAngelina · 17/06/2020 22:55

Who is it that they intend to run these sessions?

MsAwesomeDragon · 17/06/2020 22:58

I know the year 12s need their own catch up, but they may also need the money. Money is a huge motivator for the kids at my school and a lot of them will choose to take a tutoring job rather than access their own catch up sessions. And yes, remote learning of year 13 content has had very mixed results, some have done brilliantly while others have not learnt a thing!

JimmyGrimble · 17/06/2020 23:13

Thank you hedy

ohthegoats · 17/06/2020 23:19

I wonder how it will work in primary? I imagine it's not intended for us, more for the exam year groups.

I find communicating with a tutor a complete pita. I have a teacher who takes out my PP children (yes, the vulnerable!) for maths. Usually during maths time. But she teaches some random shit so as not to tread on my toes (apparently), and it doesn't really work as it just confuses them more. That's someone who is a qualified teacher, works in my school, and is available to have conversations with most days. That's obviously a failing in our communication, but still.

Let's hope it works OK for those who need it. Personally I think primary should be left alone to get on with it.

DrMadelineMaxwell · 17/06/2020 23:26

I have a webinar on Friday with an educational adisory company all about what blended learning could or should look like. I hope it will be interesting! Then I get to lead that across the staff alongside whatever advice GWe (ed government in N Wales) are giving as we are being told that these 4 weeks we are going back for is mostly to establish blended learning ready for next year.

minisoksmakehardwork · 17/06/2020 23:32

As a parent, bolt on's can fuck right off! Mine do extra curricular activities twice a week, which they are already missing out on because of lockdown, although scouting has recently started zoom meetings as way for cubs and scouts to keep going in a fashion.

They already go to breakfast club because I need to be at work before they are at school. They may do the odd after school club if it fits with everything else going on.

My secondary year 7 would need transporting home and while I'm prepared to do it for her to stay to op to optional after school clubs, I wouldn't be prepared to do it every single day. Not to mention already attending her own extra curricular activities.

I think this is another pie in the sky idea aimed at the very pupils who are already not engaging. I don't want to see their education sacrificed, but at some point the government will have to accept that there are a number of families and students for whom an education just isn't a priority.

I don't want to detract from the students who do want to engage but are unable to access the learning platforms being used. Because I do believe these students would grasp any opportunity to catch up. But I also believe these are few and far between. There are far more who are seeing this period as an extended school break.

minisoksmakehardwork · 17/06/2020 23:33

@ohthegoats, that's nuts from the Hlta. If they're not teaching what the rest of the class is learning, albeit in a smaller and more focused group, how are those pupils going to benefit from the time with her?

DrMadelineMaxwell · 17/06/2020 23:34

On the negative side, however, I'm expected back at work despite being clinically vulnerable. HR deps at county want it that way.

Our return guidance says clinically vulnerable people should work from home if they can.
But then the (Welsh) guidelines then refer to a risk assessment for CV people.

Despite only missing a shielding letter by 2 courses of steroids, I score very low on the risk assessment and the outcome is 'Carry on as normal but with care'.

So I'm back in. The advice even from the govt contradicts itself.

Happily, in Wales, we are returning on a rota basis and being careful with SD so I am having 7 kids a day in class. And luckily, few enough of my parents requested for their children to come back that I can have 3 days in and 1 day helping in the hub on a rota with other teachers so sometimes in and sometimes not needed in - and one day PPA/cleaning.

Still waiting to hear if the unions are putting their foot down re the finally additional week we are supposed to be in.

ohthegoats · 17/06/2020 23:51

Interested to hear what blended learning looks like. I expect that'll be where I'm directed next for CPD.

I genuinely think they'll fudge numbers so we are all back as normal in September. They'll have us go full whack until/waiting to see if, it kicks off again, at which point localised closures.

It's not going to go away over the summer holidays (by it I mean all this arguing and union stuff), is it :(