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The Sixth Republic - Will we or won’t we? That is the question! #solidarity

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 17/05/2020 17:34

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
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Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

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LolaSmiles · 18/05/2020 16:42

Don't the gutter press trawl Mumsnet for something approximating journalism? Grin

I often wonder how embarrassed they would be going for a proper journalism job and having to have 'screenshot Mumsnet threads and paraphrased them' on their application

ChloeDecker · 18/05/2020 16:44

Hello all!

So lovely to catch up with you all, although it would be nicer without all the shit being thrown at us!

I can’t believe I can really that the same posters are just repeating themselves over and over any every thread they can about Zoom lessons and going back.

Interestingly today, we got back our parent survey results and they overwhelming (our school has 1600+ pupils) have gone for electronic lessons that their children can do at any time and have said they don’t want to have to follow a Zoom-like schedule because their technology and personal circumstances wouldn’t work that way.

So, continuing to upload carefully altered lessons (including pre-written links and resources not by me, shock horror!) and providing feedback via written methods such as messages. Not entirely sure why this means children are getting no education until some made up dates from a MN posters Grin

Piggywaspushed · 18/05/2020 16:46

Wow, interesting!

Piggywaspushed · 18/05/2020 16:54

I just read something very interesting about NZ. After the earthquake, lots of schools were shut, on and off for two years. Many had no premises. Kids had lost homes and loved ones. Guess what happened to their educational attainment? Guess what happened with attainment gaps?

RigaBalsam · 18/05/2020 16:55

Go on piggy.Grin

pfrench · 18/05/2020 16:56

I can't see if this thread has been linked or not yet:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3912936-AMA-my-child-s-been-back-at-Dutch-school-for-one-week?pg=3

Interesting. I think the gov here might have scuppered themselves slightly by going for NOT part time. I know that schools can do what they want, but it's a tough head who does their own thing against guidance. It's made it so obvious that it's about childcare not education, and that gets teacher and unions backs up. Also makes it impossible to imagine having whole school back in some form at any point frankly!

minisoksmakehardwork · 18/05/2020 17:01

@ChloeDecker - it's a sad state of affairs that those who are desperate to get their children back in school are probably just struggling a lot and wouldn't have chosen to home educate their children.

I admit that my own children are a challenge. I don't think the school has quite hit differentiating work for differing abilities at a primary level, but they are doing their best at the moment and as a parent, I am capable of helping my children to a point, and googling what I don't know. My children astound me daily with what they do know as much as what they don't. Heck, I even read the curriculum aims for their year groups because some of the work being set they were struggling with. So I have been able to adapt. I'm a parent, newly employed as an LSA. If I can think to have a look there, why don't others?

Piggywaspushed · 18/05/2020 17:06

So, to answer my own questions... there was no drop in attainment. The attainment gap narrowed!

Well I never!

MsAwesomeDragon · 18/05/2020 17:13

I read an article about that a couple of weeks ago @Piggywaspushed. Our curriculum DH sent it to all of us as part of his weekly bulletin. Today we were sent another article which was about "recovery curriculum" and how we need to be sensitive to the loss and trauma experienced by kids, and not bypass their well-being in our rush to push more knowledge into them when we come back.

TheHoneyBadger · 18/05/2020 17:14

Because they don’t think they should have to mini? I think some are outraged that they should have to put any effort or initiative into it at all.

Seems we’ve ended up with parents who demand to be totally spoon fed as much as we have students.

pfrench · 18/05/2020 17:17

I even read the curriculum aims for their year groups

We sent that home early doors. You can hit loads of maths stuff with practical activities.

Asuitablecat · 18/05/2020 17:19

Ido think.a lot of our job as teachers is to provide childcare and keep employment figures low. If only kids remembered what we taught them the first two or even 3 times. I always agree with the Welsh way of doing things, but they manage to do.gcses at different times in different subjects, then move on.

ChloeDecker · 18/05/2020 17:19

Completely agree minisoksmakehardwork

Today, my DD has done no ‘lesson work’ as I have been working but I did an awful lot this past weekend and using resources that I found easier that were similar to what her school had provided but were easier for me to implement.

pfrench · 18/05/2020 17:21

not bypass their well-being in our rush to push more knowledge into them when we come back

Teacher in my school was banging on about testing the other day. Testing in the first few days back. WTAF?

EducatingArti · 18/05/2020 17:22

Has anyone heard the news about French schools? Apparently some students went back last Tuesday and they have already had to close 50 schools because of positive cases of Covid19.

Asuitablecat · 18/05/2020 17:23

I just bought some maths workbooks.for mine. I know I can easily fill eng gaps, but they work.quite happily in work books and it stops.fighting over the laptop.

pfrench · 18/05/2020 17:24

Yep, it's going to be a nightmare for 18 months with this stuff.

I don't feel that's me being particularly negative, it's just reality. We've not been good enough at testing - we can't turn them around quickly enough to not have a massive disruption in schooling for as long as this goes on.

Piggywaspushed · 18/05/2020 17:25

It is really interesting that there has been little to no focus or guidance on what to teach them in this return period.

pfrench · 18/05/2020 17:25

quite happily in work books and it stops.fighting over the laptop

Mine too. Even though she's only 5 - I find that I can get her to do phonics and maths for 1 page a day, but I won't be able to get her to do any of the school sent activities. This will keep her ticking over at a minimum, and that's OK.

pfrench · 18/05/2020 17:27

We've also bought workbooks for maths for all of our kids ready for after half term. Even the ones in school will be using workbooks. Not what we wanted really, but it means we can use them in videos for teaching and so on. Reduces the impact of not having tech at home.

TheHoneyBadger · 18/05/2020 17:27

Ds is doing nothing today because he slept for so long and tbh I am down and not up for forcing work today. Have told him we are having a talk shortly and will put a plan together for a routine for the rest of the week with clear consequences if he’s not doing it. I can admit where I’ve been shit or when I haven’t had the energy to enforce work being done. I wish everyone could instead of always needing someone to blame.

I have every sympathy for people finding it hard to get their kids to work and even find it hard to motivate themselves as adults. To just blame it all on teachers not being able to magically make it easy and seamless from afar is crazy.

pfrench · 18/05/2020 17:31

I have every sympathy for people finding it hard to get their kids to work and even find it hard to motivate themselves as adults.

I have been absolutely shit. But to be fair, her dad has done nothing at all, like NOTHING. They play all afternoon. I've also noticed that parents who aren't teachers are more stressed about it than those who are. Lots of my teacher mates have given up a bit.

I'm not motivated today myself. Child was up half the night cross with me about not being able to fix something in her dream, then we tried to do her sports day over Zoom with some of her mates but that just made her cry, and I want to go to bed. For about a week.

pfrench · 18/05/2020 17:33

Erk Arti - that's all in the green zone too. We're FAR from the green zone.

RigaBalsam · 18/05/2020 17:33

Piggy have you got a link for that?

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