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The Fifth Republic - safe space? Solidarity Comrades!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 13/05/2020 13:23

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

In the other staffroom, there is rhubarb & ginger gin, along with tea and coffee.

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Saucery · 13/05/2020 17:03

Gresswell have sent me an email about beanbags and other soft seating. They aren’t really reading the (bare, unfurnished) room, are they? Grin

Appuskidu · 13/05/2020 17:03

Sitting on my hands now.

Someone is very pleased and relieved that Gav has confirmed schools will now be opening over the summer.

Biscuit
minisoksmakehardwork · 13/05/2020 17:05

@TheHoneyBadger - I know what stem and leaf diagrams are now! Only after sitting in PSU with removed pupils and having to explain it to one.

I am enjoying some of the histrionics on the 'children are entitled to an education' thread. Honestly, I don't know everything but it baffles me that so many parents seem to be lacking in basic common sense. The argument that keyworker children have been in and everything has been fine... these children, if they are anything like my own children, have had social distancing, hygiene etc drummed into them. On my work days we even strip as soon as we are home and straight into the bath. Bags etc are left in the porch to be dealt with later to reduce the risk. It might be overkill but it is better than nothing at all.

Saucery · 13/05/2020 17:07

I take back my volunteering offer now. No way am I ‘working’ with a load of untrained eager-beavers.
We have a massive Induction programme to work through for all volunteers. How many are going to even make it through Keeping Children Safe In Education? Hmm

MrsHerculePoirot · 13/05/2020 17:08

Checking in. Am also about to post on the other place there’s should it be needed.

RigaBalsam · 13/05/2020 17:10

Piggy they only mention primary schools opening at the daily briefing.

NeurotrashWarrior · 13/05/2020 17:12

Mini, guidance my school got was to do that so don't feel it's overkill.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 13/05/2020 17:12

It is a bloody disgrace that some of the posters are hiding behind what about the disadvantaged children and that is the reason we must all be back it (whilst really meaning that they would not want their precious one to mix with a disadvantaged child and they certainly do not want a disadvantaged child catching up). It is making my blood boil - patronising sanctimonious middle-class mothers.

MN is not only making me unionised and I am going back to my working-class roots

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Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 17:18

See now Jenrick was (unusually ) clear. very very specifically primary at June 1st.

Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 17:18

Sorry riga cross post!

Someone needs to ask this at the briefing! Gah!

Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 17:19

Anyone actually got union contacts?

Or can ask on Twitter? I can't because it's a professional account.

Cyberworrier · 13/05/2020 17:21

twitter.com/fcdwhittaker/status/1260601033040019456?s=21

Shocking admission they don’t know children’s role in transmission. Although sadly not shocking really

DreamingofBrie · 13/05/2020 17:23

Hi Honey,
I've responded to your post on the other forum. Let me know if I can help any more.

DreamingofBrie · 13/05/2020 17:25

White Rose Maths also has a plethora of resources here:

whiterosemaths.com/resources/schemes-of-learning/secondary-sols/

It would need some time to read through it all though!

LolaSmiles · 13/05/2020 17:29

It is making my blood boil - patronising sanctimonious middle-class mothers.
That's been evident throughout a lot of threads during lockdown.

There was quite a lot of pointy elbows at the ready when schools were first closed. Remember all the threads where people were desperately trying to justify that they had grounds to send their children in, and making big claims they couldn't possibly have the children when working from home, their children will fall behind if the children in school are getting a head start. Then when it became clear that schools were offering a skeleton provision with no teaching, magically all those mums with pointy elbows managed to keep their children off school (where we presume they were working through the remote learning materials, whilst mum fires off an obligatory complaint thread on Mumsnet about how awful it is their child has to do White Rose Maths,they don't consider the geography materials to be up to much so have spent at least 5 hours a day doing the teacher's job for them).

Then there was the disadvantaged scandal of online lessons where lots of posters were furious that the private school down the road were doing live lessons through Google classroom and their DC were hugely disadvantaged by this. Naturally the pile on continued with cries of 'but think of the disadvantages children', whilst failing to consider that not every household has enough study space for live lessons, not every household has enough devices for every child to live learn, not every house has WiFi let alone WiFi good enough to stream parents working and live lessons. Of course they didn't actually care about genuinely disadvantaged children.

On a similar lines, the fact many schools didn't use Zoom for the same reasons plus safeguarding also was a sign teachers don't care for the disadvantaged students either. Of course safeguarding couldn't be an issue for the naice families so it doesn't cross their mind the range of potential issues there.

It's awful how many obviously middle class parents are quick to express faux concerns about disadvantaged students to propose solutions that give their kids a leg up whilst actively holding disadvantaged students back.

Appuskidu · 13/05/2020 17:30

@Cyberworrier

Wow-that clipAngry

Saucery · 13/05/2020 17:34

Supply Teacher and Keen Volunteer Summer Schools.
That is sooooooo not going to work Grin

minisoksmakehardwork · 13/05/2020 17:34

@NeurotrashWarrior. Thanks :) It feels like I'm bordering on paranoid or neurotic at times, and I am a practical person generally.

@StaffAssociationRepresentative - You are right that they are hiding behind the vulnerable children needing to be back in school. I am sure a lot of them are more along the lines of I am fed up of parenting my little treasure and need a break. Heaven knows I look forward to my day in as a break from my munchkins (2 of whom are SEN). But I would rather not have to send them in to school until it is safe for the teachers and the children. If it's still not safe for groups of people to meet, even outside (more than 2 people), I don't understand why people are so eager to send their children back into an environment which is enclosed.

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 17:36

Sureitwillbegrand Wed 13-May-20 16:52:27
@TheHoneyBadger yes completely free. I would say get your son to try it and if he likes it then email the teacher again. No point doing something that is not helping and you are all just getting frustrated! - Thank you. I've messaged a poster who offered help. We have been sent electronic access to Essential Maths textbook and I'm mostly just hoping for someone to tell me which chapters/sections they should have covered in year 8 so I can review all of that with ds and at least have a clue of where he's at with a year of supply and teachers coming and going and never having anyone with english as a first language or confidence and support to achieve classroom management.

minisoksmakehardwork Wed 13-May-20 17:05:19
@TheHoneyBadger - I know what stem and leaf diagrams are now! Only after sitting in PSU with removed pupils and having to explain it to one. - well done you! Grin - not sarcastic btw. I would cover maths sometimes as a supply teacher and none of the kids would get it and somehow I'd manage to work it out and teach them in such a way they got it and I know how satisfying that is!

Saucery:How many are going to even make it through Keeping Children Safe In Education? hmm - try making them sit through the patronising hour and a half of videos on how to spot the signs of radicalisation

Staff -MN is not only making me unionised and I am going back to my working-class roots
^worst yet most of the most opinionated are not even middle class they're working class who don't even know it in their busy aspiration. They're the, 'I have a car and naice curtains and take holidays abroad and don't go in that rough pub down the road so I am middle class twats.

I have a degree and am a 'professional' I'm still working class and have realised how far away the definition of 'middle class' has moved since I was a kid. The middle class earn 6 figures nowadays.

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 17:39

Thank you Brie I will look over there.

Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 17:41

And now they believe they can get rid of little Giles all summer too.

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 17:43

I've missed this confirmation that schools will be open over summer - where should I be looking? Have they say how that will be funded and who will be staffing it?

RigaBalsam · 13/05/2020 17:44

Honey they said volunteers and graduates.

One Mp suggested OFsted inspectors Grin

RigaBalsam · 13/05/2020 17:45

What a crap answer to the schools question.

MossWalk · 13/05/2020 17:45

Shall we reclaim bitches? I'm not sure I have the sass to pull it off.

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