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The Fifth Republic - safe space? Solidarity Comrades!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 13/05/2020 13:23

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

In the other staffroom, there is rhubarb & ginger gin, along with tea and coffee.

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Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 14:41

Oh, I'm well behind the curve and just posted on the 4th Republic!
Anyhow, it said our head is 'preparing for year 10 and 12 to be back in some form' from June 1st. This massively needs clarifying DfE!

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 14:43

Quiet here now Sad

I'm not good with change. I've been and posted on tes so it's 'banked' as a safe place and so I won't have to lose this support if it goes poof here as threatened.

It's a bit sad that mn is here to support parents but not parents who are teachers. I do get that they can't close down discussion but I'd have thought posters who are flagrantly trolling across multiple threads could be addressed. I seem to remember days of people being banned for less at least temporarily.

Then again I remember heyday of fwr boards and mass invasions of mra trolls being allowed to derail, abuse and online stalk mn'ers. I had to have my whole history deleted at one point because my then username had been put on nasty mra sites and people were trawling my history to try and find piece together identifiable information.

I don't think I ever really posted as much after that or invested much at all.

Anyway.

Ds and i have been through hell and back today including tantrums and banging around (not just from him) but we have come out the otherside and gotten quite a lot of maths done and 'banked' some new concepts hopefully.

Realised the reason it's such a battle is that in school they'd introduce a new concept then do a whole lesson of exercises maybe that practised and embedded that concept. The stuff he's being set on Dr Frost seems to involve multitudes of new concepts (wrong word probably because i'm not a mathematician (you want to have seen how many attempts it took me to even spell that word) and then eg. 30 challenging tasks jumping from one concept to another or requiring blending them for a 8 steps of working out task. IFTS?

Could secondary maths teachers please identify themselves? I want to ask (have asked the person setting maths ((who isn't ds's teacher and neither of us recognise his name)) but haven't had a response) for help identifying what topics and skills are covered through year 8 so that we could focus on going over and consolidating all of that and adding on the things he hasn't covered yet. One assignment set today that was clearly labelled as appropriate for top set gcse groups and meant nothing to ds so we steered clear. He's disheartened enough without feeling like a failure because he doesn't understand work he's not meant to cover for another year anyway.

Sorry for hijacking teacher thread with my parent hat on looking for support.

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 14:45

itms. what the hell is ifts??

MollyAtTheFolly · 13/05/2020 14:47

@WhyNotMe40

In our school yes, parents would be told. This is because of the need for the class (including the adult/s) to self-isolate for 14 days, or the originator for 7.

Presumably the ill person would have to get a test asap (from the Testing Fairy) and then either everyone could come back in if negative, or remain off if positive.

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 14:49

oh and at one point I literally sent him out lol! We don't have a removal room but I was like just go, do something else, be somewhere for 5 minutes because I CAN"T COPE WITH THIS anymore Blush

kudos to any maths teachers who handle a class of 13 yo boys simultaneously saying they don't get it but not actually listening and letting you finish explaining. My head nearly exploded at one point.

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 14:51

the guidance is clear that no one should go off until the case is confirmed by a positive test. It says teachers and students who've been in contact with the suspected case should stay in school until they develop symptoms in which case those individuals should go home too. If and when someone gets a positve result confirmed the rest of the class and the teacher should stay home.

Basically keep mingling and cross infecting whilst individuals drop like flies due to symptoms until a positive test result from someone.

DreamingofBrie · 13/05/2020 14:52

Place marking Brew.

LolaSmiles · 13/05/2020 14:52

I missed the 4th Republic.

Time for a brew Brew

twinkletoesimnot · 13/05/2020 14:55

I'm just checking in.... The world has gone mad!

Our head is having a meeting tomorrow morning with SLT about whether we can currently manage to open to R, Y1 and Y6. (I'm Y3/4)

They don't think it can be done safely, so quite what will come out of the meeting I don't know. Also don't know how many parents would want them to return.

My daughter is Y1, and I think I won't send her to begin with (we can juggle childcare)

HedyPrism · 13/05/2020 15:02

Oh yes Neuro, decaf coffee, green, pink and other wanky teas all available.

I have a Y6 boy who I don't think will be going back. It will depend on what's being offered. If it's sitting in a room with a TA doing a worksheet set by the teacher he may as well do that at home.

FlamingoAndJohn · 13/05/2020 15:02

Just said on the radio 4 news that Hammond has been ‘defending the government’s plan to try and open some schools next month.’

Try, and some working very hard there.

phlebasconsidered · 13/05/2020 15:04

Yes i'm at home for the 12 weeks Neuro but after that i'm expecting to be commandeered. The dfe guidance suggested it would be ok to work. Or at least, that's what my school office think. I'm now scanning union stuff for guidelines.

Piggywaspushed · 13/05/2020 15:05

I think my post just got lost so can I just say again

AAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

BJ definitely did not say year 10 and 12 back in any shape of form on June 1st!!!

How can the DfE stuff be so different!!?? Who is wrong???

FlamingoAndJohn · 13/05/2020 15:05

I notice that everyone who has been posting that their children’s HT has emailed them to say the school won’t open to September or that their HT best friend has had letters from the government saying it would be September has been very quiet.

LolaSmiles · 13/05/2020 15:08

It's amazing how many posters on here apparently know the inner workings of the government and know what's going on behind the scenes in a profession that has nothing to do with them.

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 15:10

People are saying the shielded and vulnerable will stay home. The guidance I read said that teachers over 70 and teachers who are vulnerable and aged 65 or over will not be required to go into schools but everyone else would.

Did I hallucinate that? I'm pretty sure I even copied and pasted it on the last republic.

Phleb - it was my understanding that people who'd been told to shield for 12 weeks (generally not teacher specific) were being sent letters to tell them to shield for a further 12 weeks after their initial 12 week period ended. I know because it particularly pissed off my dad who thinks he's bullet proof despite being 74 and having copd and prostrate cancer - the kind of 'crack on attitude' mn'ers would admire but I am massively discouraging as I'd like him to survive 2020.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 13/05/2020 15:12

@HedyPrism decaf coffee, green, pink and other wanky teas all available

It is nice to have a drinks selection 😂

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TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 15:13

the dfe is wrong. Bojo said some form of face to face contact before september in support of continued online learning. Eg. 2 days in school making sure everyone knows their sign in details, everyone understands how to submit work and touching base and encouraging those who haven't worked so far to get on board imo.

DFE and some heads seem to have interpreted as back in school from June 1st. Sorry for posting so much. Have a small window of ds free not pulling my hair out homeschooling time.

ChloeDecker · 13/05/2020 15:13

I notice that everyone who has been posting that their children’s HT has emailed them to say the school won’t open to September or that their HT best friend has had letters from the government saying it would be September has been very quiet.

I’m convinced it is copypasta and they are fake virals, as in ‘insert school here’. The fact that more than one thread has been started about it (one of them deleted) is pretty obvious.

There were many of them at the beginning of lockdown re NHS. BBC did a good article explaining.

www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-51931394

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 15:14

staff tesco came last night so I can add red wine, perry and red vermouth (must make some ice cubes) to the top shelf of drink selections. No gin I'm afraid or toffee vodka I'm afraid.

CallmeAngelina · 13/05/2020 15:15

Anyway, in other, more positive news, I've gone right off Biscuit at the moment. Anyone else? Angry

TheHoneyBadger · 13/05/2020 15:16

I wish we had a like option on here. So many posts make me laugh or smile and it would be nice to be able to express that.

Sureitwillbegrand · 13/05/2020 15:16

Checking in. Had a very sensible meeting with head this afternoon wrt Y10 and 12. But on the back of that we are being asked to do some form of live lesson? Need my coffee.

ProseccoBubbleFantasies · 13/05/2020 15:18

Hi. I'm not a teacher, but work in schools. Pastoral stuff.

A couple of threads ago, there was a plan to put flowers on teacher basing threads, which I'm still doing. But not many others seem to. Has that plan been ditched? I

FrippEnos · 13/05/2020 15:22

Piggywaspushed

Yup, the information I have from my head is also somewhat contradictory to the information from everyone else.

But then I thought that it might be.

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