Gav calls for Silent Corridors - School Behaviour Squad Assembled

[noblegiraffe]

Gavin Williamson made a speech today praising strict schools that don’t let kids piss about in lessons (you’d think this’d be fairly standard, but, y’know, Dix) and have silent corridors.

A new £10 million behaviour task force is being assembled led by Tom Bennett and will work to tackle this on a national level. Not sure how this will have any more impact than his behaviour report that appeared to make fuck-all difference though.

What would be lovely is if he could say ‘centralised detentions are a non-negotiable to be implemented immediately’. But I suspect not.

NEU are not happy, obvs.

schoolsweek.co.uk/williamson-calls-for-silent-corridors-and-banned-mobiles-to-be-the-norm/

I have different expectations for different kids, not low expectations for any of them.

Good for you, Parsnips

But a school behaviour policy can’t be ‘do your own thing, folks’.

Why do you keep going on about pens noble? These behaviour policies are about a lot more than that!

Yeah not your punching bag iamnotokay so won’t be engaging with you.

Hit a nerve did I

As I already told you, no. You’re just looking for a teacher to bash. Bash someone else.

My dyspraxic kid goes to a school like this. It is very stressful and I think it only works if the teachers make the kids feel liked, when they shout it gets him very very anxious. He's a good kid and very keen to please.
Imagine having a workplace where you were shouted at by your boss and kept back at the end of the day every time you forgot your swipe card or any one of around 30 rotating other things you were required to bring in on various different days. I'd hate it.

No noble I'm disagreeing with you about these strict behaviour policies. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean I'm bashing you.

Children should not slouch, they should receive a demerit as it is part of a culture of high expectations for all.
Schools and teachers cannot afford 30 pens per lesson so children should be expected to provide their own.
Children with SN would be treated separately and a pencil case set up in the classroom to borrow a pen or a parent would ensure they had lots of pens in their bag each day.
If there are low expectations of things such as this then it transfers to effort in learning and behaviour

Hands up who is in favour of schools where teachers routinely shout at dyspraxic kids for forgetting stuff.

Anyone?

No?

Right.

And yet it happens quite a lot seemingly...

I honestly wouldn't care how many pens I have out, if they gave me the fuckers back at the end of the lesson. I lose so many, and then have to buy more from my salary. My own dd has poor memory and forgets everything - she is sent to school with a pencil case full of pens and pencils which I top up every time its needed.
One pupil will have no money at home for a pen, one pupil will have family who don't or can't care about them having a pen. What excuse do the other half a dozen pupils have?

I think silent corridors are a terrible idea but I would settle for ones where children didn't cheerfully tell each other to fuck off while charging about.

Behaviour policies where a kid is actually expected to be able to bring in a pen instead of being picked up after by adults all the time actually highlight the kids who are unable to do this and allows measures to be put in place and coping mechanisms to be developed.

If they’re just lumped with the kids who can’t be arsed and are handed a pen without comment every lesson, then the fact that they can’t manage it will never be looked at properly.

I have given pens out to pupils who turned out to have one in their bag but thought/knew it would be less hassle to make me walk the length of the room twice than to reach their hand down.
am a bit obsessed with pens at the mo

I would settle for ones where children didn't cheerfully tell each other to fuck off while charging about.

Indeed. I think that parents who are opposed to corridor behaviour policies should be forced to tail a tiny Y7 through a corridor full of Y11s at lesson changeover in a school without one.

I had that yesterday Mistress, was lending out calculators to a top set Y8 and a kid said ‘mine is in my bag, but I can’t be arsed to get it, can you just give me one?’.

Where the hell does all the stuff actually go though is what I want to know. In the space of a year I used to have supplied enough stationery and pe kits to run a small shop

I'm an average year 7 height. I'm amazed some days when I make it to my classroom at all!

I’ve kind of nailed the pen issue by only lending out pencils. Kids don’t take pencils with them at the end of the lesson because it won’t stop them having to ask for a pen next lesson.

Sometimes they even leave them on the desk instead of the floor.

That's absolutely what should happen noble.

But realistically how often do you think it does happen? Who is putting these measures in place? Who is supporting the child with these coping mechanisms until they eventually get it (bearing in mind it may take years for some children)?

I just think that strict behaviour policies in a time of budget cuts is a disaster waiting to happen. I wish the government would spend money on all the things RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie mentioned instead of behaviour policies that aren't going to work for many children.

I’m pretty tall, Mistress which is definitely an asset in corridors. And I can reach the top of whiteboards.

I'm sure the pen argument has happened on here before.

If we're going down the strict behaviour policies aren't fair on those with SEN route then can someone explain why it's fair 29 students have their learning disrupted for one child?

Most parents would be horrified if they saw the behaviour in secondary schools.

My DD is struggling at the moment and achieved one of her first full days recently only to be bollocked by a teacher for not wearing her blazer, she had only just arrived at school on a freezing cold day after having a mental health appointment. The school was chosen by myself as being the right mix for her at year 7 but now at year 10 it has turned in to a school which would not be suitable for her due to its pressurised atmosphere and ridged policies. The school in its self is very good and a majority of the teachers are extremely suportive of my DD but its behaviour policy does not allow for a child trying to survive a day with no concentration and in a fight or flight mentality. One of the teachers said that the concern was that DD should finish year 11 with GCSE's at a suitable level, I countered that I was concerned that I wanted to get DD to school tomorrow

Is that one distruptive child slouching herc? Or did they forget a pen? I think it's important we know which one we're taking about here?