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What would happen in your school if a child screamed in your face?

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 20:14

A year 8 boy walked out of a homework detention with me. I caught him outside the pastoral room and shouted at him to get in and sit down. He turned round, put his face about ten inches from mine and screamed at me. I honestly thought he was going to attack me.

What would happen in your school if a pupil did this? Interested in the punishment for the child, as well as the reaction from management and colleagues.

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Chattybum · 10/12/2019 20:17

Depends. At my current school isolation for a day or two. Phone call home. Apology letter.

Previous schools, nothing. And I would be told to organise another detention for the one they missed.

Rainbowcolours1 · 10/12/2019 20:18

You shouted at him? His behaviour isn't acceptable but as adults we are there to set the example.

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 20:19

How would your current colleagues react if you told them? I had precisely one ask me if I was OKConfused

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Mishappening · 10/12/2019 20:20

I must say that the fact that you shouted at him jumped out at me. I think it is the job of teachers to model good behaviour.

Having said that, I could not be a teacher for all the tea in China.

Mishappening · 10/12/2019 20:21

Homework detention itself is not acceptable frankly.

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 20:23

@Rainbowcolours1 Yup, not my finest moment, and I am not at my best at the moment. I rarely shout, but I was very angry with him (constant messing about, lewd comments, whining I was picking on him and then he walked out). I really don't like shouting, but it is not uncommon at my school.

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 20:25

@Mishappening I posted in the staffroom because I wanted to hear from other teachersHmm I think I modelled that if you behave badly, people get angry, if you insist.

Kindly explain what is wrong with a homework detention?

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Tonii1985 · 10/12/2019 20:28

Honestly, right now, next to nothing.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 10/12/2019 20:34

Not much, probably, unless it was a load of swearing. We’re at the stage where pupils are walking out of external inclusion. Just wandering the school or going offsite. I fear for the future.

BigcatLittlecat · 10/12/2019 20:38

I was kicked yesterday and I teach in a mainstream primary! There was no sanction so I'm assuming that there was no saction for your incident, unless you had to do a restorative session!!!

noblegiraffe · 10/12/2019 20:39

I’d get told to phone home and set a detention. Can’t imagine anyone asking me if I was ok.

custardbear · 10/12/2019 20:40

What the fuck are you having homework detentions in your year for when you're teaching 8 year olds?! That's bloody insane!!

The school / the government is at fault for causing too much stress for bloody tiny kids ffs

We didn't have homework til senior School - ever! Then, we couldn't deal with it as kids, so what you're doing is actually relying on (either fucking crazy busy, or lazy ) parents to be doing the homework of their tiny kids - or at least supporting them, but in reality it's rare to get thst support as a child ... so you actually stress out it disengage the child - bingo! (For shit teaching!)

Honestly - speak to your head thst the system is appalling

(Coming from a person with a PhD who never did a scrap of homework as a tiny child, neither did me brother - a consultant doctor ....) it's a shockingly poor system that's at fault! Ps we also went to schools in pretty poor areas

LaserShark · 10/12/2019 20:42

Why are people who don’t know the difference between Year 8 and 8 year olds posting in the Staffroom??

YourOpinionIsNoted · 10/12/2019 20:42

year 8, @custardbear, not 8 year old. Year 8 means 12/13 years of age.

LaserShark · 10/12/2019 20:43

And OP, my answer to your question is nothing would have happened which is why I have now left teaching forever.

TheWinterCaillech · 10/12/2019 20:43

You yelled at him and the situation escalated. So I’d expect a sanction fir the car hold, but training for all staff on behaviour management.

Aragog · 10/12/2019 20:43

8 year olds

The OP says year 8, not 8yo. Year 8 is secondary school, aged 12-13y.

1busybee · 10/12/2019 20:44

@custardbear year 8 not aged 8. Year 8 12/13 year olds.

MsJaneAusten · 10/12/2019 20:46

Are you ok OP? Sounds like a tough day.

Current school = isolation. At least a day.
Previous school = nada. Unless they shouted at SLT...

custardbear · 10/12/2019 20:46

Oops!! Sorry my mistake!
Blame the parents!

TheWinterCaillech · 10/12/2019 20:47

Well, that didn’t make sense!
I’d expect a sanction for the child in line with the school’s behaviour policy, but further training of staff in how to manage extremely challenging behaviour without escalating the confrontation.

TinselNTears · 10/12/2019 20:48

I'm getting sick of kids with all excuses under the sun. What about our rights as teachers? Ffs

custardbear · 10/12/2019 20:48

@LaserShark - I know the difference .. I misread it - calm down dear 🙄

Howlongtillbedtime · 10/12/2019 20:48

Either an internal exclusion for one day or external exclusion with an internal exclusion and a meeting the next day with a parent before being allowed back into the whole school.

It is not great to shout at a student but sometimes it does shock them into at least listening!

HopeClearwater · 10/12/2019 20:49

how to manage extremely challenging behaviour without escalating the confrontation

Which would be... ?

Are you SLT by any chance?