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What would happen in your school if a child screamed in your face?

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 20:14

A year 8 boy walked out of a homework detention with me. I caught him outside the pastoral room and shouted at him to get in and sit down. He turned round, put his face about ten inches from mine and screamed at me. I honestly thought he was going to attack me.

What would happen in your school if a pupil did this? Interested in the punishment for the child, as well as the reaction from management and colleagues.

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Fouroutoffour · 10/12/2019 20:50

@custardbear I see you have been correctedSmile I would wholeheartedly agree that homework for 8 year olds is pointless and detentions for them really harsh. Would like to point out though that there's no point telling a teacher that they're doing it wrong, as they're more than likely just following school policy.

c75kp0r · 10/12/2019 20:50

If the detention was used to make them do the missed homework, I think it's a good idea, if they just sit doing nothing which my DS;s school did, it acheives nothing. He wouldnot write his homework in the diary (or tell the teacher he had 'lost' it), next day he would get homework detention which involved sitting doing nothing for an hour after school. He'd come home again and still not do that homework or the new one. And so it went on all bloody year. Year after year.

mineofuselessinformation · 10/12/2019 20:51

It wasn't the best reaction to shout, but as he didn't cooperate with an after school detention, it would be a day's internal exclusion at my school. If it was a lunchtime detention it would be escalated to an after school.

Zofloramummy · 10/12/2019 20:52

Internal exclusion and put on behaviour report with head of year.

Fouroutoffour · 10/12/2019 20:54

@TinselNTears THANK YOU!!! Some days I feel like I apparently have to accept anything and "stay professional", whilst the kids behave like brats. SnotfairWink

TheWinterCaillech · 10/12/2019 20:54

No way am I SLT Hope, just old and with a background in tough schools and children with additional needs.

ContigoQueen · 10/12/2019 20:54

Nothing - appalling behaviour from some of ours at the moment. No one seems to want to do anything about it!

HammerToFall · 10/12/2019 20:55

Look beyond the behaviour. It will tell you a different story

iamthevirginmarywith2weans · 10/12/2019 20:57

So you shouted at him, he shouted at you and you want him punished for shouting?

Pud2 · 10/12/2019 20:57

Blimey - OP asked how a school should respond to this extreme and unacceptable behaviour from a child, not chapter and verse on whether or not there should be homework detention! I’m in primary but this behaviour would be taken seriously and immediately addressed by SLT. Parent would be contacted. We would then try and get to the bottom of why the child is behaving like this, whilst making it clear that it’s unacceptable.

sofakingg00d · 10/12/2019 20:57

Failed detention = isolation.
He would have failed the detention for the things he did before walking out.

I would also not expect anybody to check I was OK.

CalleighDoodle · 10/12/2019 20:58

@c75kp0r did you at no point think doing a spot of active parenting in that case might help? Hmm

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 21:02

@c75kp0r thank you for thatHmm I was following school policy.

@HammerToFall quite aware of that too, thanks. There are no extenuating circumstances.

@iamthevirginmarywith2weans well done for twisting my words. I shouted at him from a distance as he had broken several school rules, including making inappropriate comments and walking away from me. He then turned round, got up close to me and shouted in my face.

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HammerToFall · 10/12/2019 21:03

@Screaminyourface how can you be so sure. My two are adopted and have had significant trauma but you would never guess

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 21:04

Detention was five minutes by the way, not even after school.

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 21:05

@HammerToFall because I asked the pastoral team? Who regularly speak to the parents? And because we know his background from before he joined the school?

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Dislocatedeyeballs · 10/12/2019 21:06

Well clearly shouting was the wrong thing to do wasn't it. You give out what you receive. You need to find a different method which is difficult prob impossible teenage boys can be an effing nightmare I wouldn't be a teacher of them in a million years some you need a different approach and to put yourself in their shoes respect them even when they disrespect you to show them a different way others are frankly a lost cause and will likely get you signed off with stress.

HammerToFall · 10/12/2019 21:09

So your mind is made up, he/she is naughty and there is no explanation. A child's behaviour will tell you a thousand stories. It's wether you chose to hear them or not that makes the difference

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 21:12

Right, just to clarify: I know shouting wasn't great, I generally don't and I dislike it. I can handle kids shouting at me, but having someone shout in your face at close distance is not the same.

@dislocatedeyeballs thanks for telling me how to do my jobConfused I think you mean you receive what you give out I refer to my previous comment, that it was the child getting in my face that bothered me, not his shouting.

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Corneliawildthing · 10/12/2019 21:12

In our school absolutely nothing would happen. He would probably be given some time in the nurture room. Teachers are told to fuck off and kids wander out of class on a daily basis - the LA don't allow exclusions - and a lot of the staff are at breaking point. Sadly this is not an isolated situation.

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 10/12/2019 21:13

I got yelled at by a yr 11 girl twice in an hour. I was just telling (Well trying to) her where she was for a moved class. She held her hand in my face and just shouted "no, no. Don't talk to me." I reported by internal system. What happened? Fuck all. The sanction was removed. I was told to report by her form tutor, slt scrapped it. She (and her mates) now just laugh at me in the corridor. Untouchable.

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 21:15

@HammerToFall oh, there's an explanation alright, but not one that makes me feel particularly sympathetic towards him. Please don't make assumptions about my mind being made up, you have no idea how I deal with children the other 189 school days of the year.

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c75kp0r · 10/12/2019 21:16

not sure what you mean by active parenting but asked school if they could email homework which they couldn't, tried reward/punishment, as it was I was making sure he went in the school gate every morning which at times involved dragging him down the road to the school and handing him over and watching that he didn't make a swift exit...

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Screaminyourface · 10/12/2019 21:18

The reactions from the teachers on this thread lead me to the (rather sad) conclusion that my school didn't even deal with it that badly. I think it might be time to look into a different career...

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Dislocatedeyeballs · 10/12/2019 21:18

You're welcome and yes something like that... do as you would be done by, what you give out you get back you know it makes sense. Try it you never know