I spend more time with other people's kids than my own

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That's just fundamentally wrong.

I took dd2 (3) to a party yesterday and was so upset because I didn't know a single other mum. Why? Because I've never been able to take my youngest to preschool.

Dd1 (7) had her first netball match on Friday. She was the only team member not to have mummy watching.

I know the parents of the kids in my class more than the parents of my friends kids. I see the kids in my class more than I see my own.

This is all with being part time but being screwed over with working 3.5 days over 5.

I’m glad you’ve quit a job you dislike to spend more time with the family.

I would say though that from your post it sounded as though as jobs go you got lots of family time. I struggle to imagine what other jobs would let you work 3.5 days a week and have school holidays off? I wonder if the next job you get won’t be worse for family time? Although I assume you’ve quit to be a SAHP??

I agree it’s shitty that you were still doing work on 5 days a week as you couldn’t compress the hours.

RavingRoo
That is so helpful yo the OP.

Why people feel the need to come on threads clearly in 'The Staffroom' with the main intent of being entirely unhelpful ia beyond me.

Let's remove the fact she is a teacher.

Person a was working full time
Perspm A wanted to alter thwir work hours fo be mofe family friendly
Person A went part time to 3.5 daya
Person A thought this was great
Person A was then tpls her part time hours are spread over 5 days.
By the time you factor travel and childcare Person A is feeling disappointed that thr change they made for their family isn't really having much impact
Person A goes online to talk to others becauae they're feeling a bit rubbish but know that a board for staff means they'll understand.
Some people are sympathetic ans understanding.
Some peole (mainly those who have never done A's job) reply to Person A purely to point out that her job/hours/holiday are better tjan theirs so really she should get over it.

But it'a a teacher thread and the golden rule of being a teacher on MN is not to say anything about workload or pay&conditions because some bright sparks will adore the opportunity to unsupportively go 'well in MY job...' Good for you. Join teaching if it's so easy and brilliant.

Good choice OP, better than letting the stress and unhappiness break you. In a year or two, maybe look around for pt but over a couple of days. Or not if you don’t need to. I agree with SweetSummerchild.
The system is failing, the workforce is cracking up and those outside the system won’t notice or care until the impact touches them personally.
Then they’ll still blame the teachers. Greatest thing about supply is no guilt, no politics and if you feel over-pressurised, you just move on. Pay is much less, but I took that option after 25 years.

Sorry as teachers we have 20000 billion days holiday and therefore must never moan. Because it's important that we don't support each other and have a little empathy. I've never seen any of my kids in their school productions...But I have heard from hundreds of parents whose kids I have taught how much the nativity plays I've done countless times have meant to them. But as a teacher with twenty million billion days holiday if I feel even a little sad I just beat myself with a Thomas Cook brochure and remind myself of how lucky I am. Of course during said million billion days of holiday I'm often and I mean often in school but I must not complain.

Does anyone fancy going over to the General Health section we can find people who aren't well and then tell them about all the people we know who are more unwell then them.

I think it'll be a great idea apple.
Maybe we could find some 'DH has annoyed me threads' and poibt out they need to grow up because some womeb are in abusive relationships so wouldn't be worried about the situation.
Ooh, or Christmas threads. I'm sure there's a potential reference there between our children and childreb in Syria.

This could be fun.

I spend about 2 hours per day with my child and much more time with my work colleagues.
She doesn’t seem to suffer but I understand how you must feel. It’s just life.

😂😂

Just leaving this here....
amp.theguardian.com/education/2017/nov/07/teachers-demand-funding-for-pay-rise-in-budget

Maisy hell yesssss.... I like it. Let's go global.

Join teaching if it's so easy and brilliant.

But the OP didn’t complain that her job was difficult and shitty (which I’m sure most teaching jobs are) she complained about the hours, so I’m not surprised posters find it hard to understand given her hours & holidays are better than you’d find in 90% of jobs.**

^ which is not to say she shouldn’t be unhappy, if she wants more family time then that’s a perfectly reasonable position, however it might be unrealistic to expect better hours in a different job.**

Oh the fucking bolding never works!

Good for you OP. It's not just the hrs, or the pay. It's the expectation and the reality of having to put other people's children before your own. And I totally relate to the 'pre-occupation' with other people's children when you work in teaching and SW.

The fact that you see other kids isn't really relevant. You have simply described the fate of many working mothers, regardless of their profession. Let's not make it about teachers!

*Lets not make it about teachers
*
Err, don't read threads on the Staffroom board.

She just wanted to speak to other teachers about something they would understand.

Are you totally bonkers? This is the Staffroom board - for teachers and other educational staff to discuss issues that affect them. If you don't want to read about teachers, then don't read the educational-staff-specific board 🤦‍♀️

The fact that you see other kids isn't really relevant. You have simply described the fate of many working mothers, regardless of their profession.

I agree.**

Plus, you can’t police who reads which boards! Lots of people will have clicked on this because it came up in “active”.

On Saturday I've got to go and do a mock school trip. To a place I don't really want to go to and I know my kids won't like it. I need to go to do a risk assessment. This means I can safely supervise 90 children who will enjoy the trip.
If I don't go and something happened I could lose my job also something might happen to one of the children I am ultimately responsible for. So I will go but I won't get paid. But I do have SO much holiday and I other people work SO much harder.
OP I feel sympathy for you. I hope you feel better soon. X

I think the OP is getting a really hard time.

Everyone has days where they feel they are spreading themselves too thinly, it's a shame some other parents can't emphasise. If someone was offloading about not seeing their DC in the summer holidays I think they'd get more sympathy.

It is horrid being in this situation. I had similar in my job, but my DC were older so the guilt and frustration wasn't so bad. (It does get easier OP)

Obviously it's not just teaching where this happens but this is The Staffroom not AIBU.

It's a fact, I feel, that only teachers get it. I know the layman believes we work a cushty 9-3 with allllllll the holidays.

Here's my working week:

At my desk at 6.50.
On my full time days, I'm home at 6, am hour with my children before bed then I spend the evenings marking.
On my half days (because I'm a skiving "pRt timer"), I finish at "12.30" which is more like 2 where It's then pointless to go home so I drive straight to my kids school where I sit in the car park responding to mindless emails.
Home with the kids for 4, where yep, back to the grind.
Unfortunately for these three afternoons like the above, I'm not paid, yet fulfill all the workload of a full timer.
Saturday and Sunday, average six hours work.
Holidays? At least two full weeks in school plus 3 weeks bare minimum of home planning.
And somehow, somewhere, find time to analyse data (I'm not a statistician), write half termly reports, weekly planning, medium term plans, mark a ridiculous amount of books, make displays, risk assessments.

But yes, us teachers, we've got it so good.

I’ve rarely read a thread that demonstrates such extreme hard-of-thinkingness. Think I’m off to post in One child families about how great dc2 is, or to tell folk in Style and beauty that they shouldn’t care about Mint Velvet as other people use foodbanks.
Ignore the shite OP, I’m sure in RL you have plenty of opportunities to hear what other people think of your cushy life, on here you possibly hoped for a discussion with fellow part time teachers but hey ho.

I just want to say that lots of parents do at least try to get how bad your hours are and think it is shit that the conditions are so awful for teachers .

I'm M6 Primary prep by the way. God bless SLT in a RI comp.

Mumsnet can easily hide threads from Active if people asked for it as they've done it with other boards. I agree that it's shitty to do the "think yourself lucky" routine to someone who's struggling with something