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Ham pr disasters 57! ….continuing the confusion and controversy….

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 19:46

Once more into the breach dear friends!!

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TheOvertGardener · Today 20:32

andyburnhamhere · Today 20:16

It popped up in my X feed, so in the interests of all sides-ism, I thought I’d watch it. Apparently, this woman raised $56,000 for Thomas Markle and spent years shielding him within the anti-Meghan universe.

Haters need to understand that, on the fringes of this particular ecosystem, there are some deeply disturbed individuals who spend an extraordinary amount of time online churning out and amplifying this stuff. The Reddit community r/SaintMeghanMarkle has 128,000 members whose apparent raison d’être is to obsess over and promote hatred of Meghan.

I’m not suggesting that everyone who criticises Meghan, certainly here is anything like that, or that all critics should be tarred with the same brush. But perhaps it’s worth pausing to consider the company you’re keeping. When you’re swimming in murky waters, you may find yourself sharing them with some truly appalling bedfellows.

Is it OK if I call you Vera?

I think you might want to work on your algorithm if this woman is popping up in it.

There are some truly unhinged things out there on all sides. But we don’t have to engage in that. I tried to watch LadyC once because someone was ranting about how awful she was but I couldn’t take a full minute of it so I stepped away.

bluegreygreen · Today 20:32

AlexandraCarrington · Today 20:25

Can we move on please?

How about a derail?
I bought a multipack of Cadbury's Heroes today to give to my mum when I see her later this week. They're calling to me....
What should I do?

Give them to your Mum, and buy yourself some Celebrations - they're much nicer!

😁

AutumnCrowning · Today 20:32

AlexandraCarrington · Today 20:25

Can we move on please?

How about a derail?
I bought a multipack of Cadbury's Heroes today to give to my mum when I see her later this week. They're calling to me....
What should I do?

They’re not what they used to be, I’m told. The taste isn’t the same. Maybe you should test them?

HoldMyWine · Today 20:33

Sorry forgot to add.
Lili of course gets a mention. Archie doesn’t. As Ever

Ham pr disasters 57! ….continuing the confusion and controversy….
Starryfifty · Today 20:34

IceBrownie · Today 20:23

The quote in the image comes from Prince Harry in the Netflix documentary series Harry & Meghan, released in December 2022.
The line appears during the discussion about the breakdown of Meghan Markle's relationship with her father, Thomas Markle, before the couple's 2018 wedding. Harry says:
“She had a father, now she doesn’t have a father. I shouldered that because if Meg was not with me, then her dad would still be her dad.”

From the horse's mouth. How would he say this if MM's timeline is true?

I don't think they remember what they say from one week to the next. They really need to start writing everything down

andyburnhamhere · Today 20:34

nicegreenwillow · Today 20:29

What if you are a person who constantly supports and excuses those who are deceitful and greedy; who use royal titles for personal gain and betrayal of the very institution which gave them everything they have? Who see being royal as being rich and having more than others? Supporting being a celebrity just because that's all that's important to them?
Imagine supporting Harry and Meghan?.
You're certainly swimming in murky waters.

That’s a fair cop - it always ends like this there is a ganging up - a few home truths said and I slink away with your derision ringing in my ears saying to myself I must do better.And then silence and I go back to lurking and performative anger at shouting at the screen. 😏

Starryfifty · Today 20:34

HoldMyWine · Today 20:33

Sorry forgot to add.
Lili of course gets a mention. Archie doesn’t. As Ever

Where is Archie?????

Starryfifty · Today 20:35

Also, who are these close friends and why weren't they at the wedding?

Passingthroughagain · Today 20:36

HoldMyWine · Today 20:33

Sorry forgot to add.
Lili of course gets a mention. Archie doesn’t. As Ever

But she’s known about it for 8 years.

Starryfifty · Today 20:37

If she knew her father was a paodophile in 2019 and apparently she wrote to him in hospital confirming she knew, why is she upset now ?

TheOvertGardener · Today 20:37

andyburnhamhere · Today 20:34

That’s a fair cop - it always ends like this there is a ganging up - a few home truths said and I slink away with your derision ringing in my ears saying to myself I must do better.And then silence and I go back to lurking and performative anger at shouting at the screen. 😏

I think you’d get less stick if you stopped calling names. Play the game, not the players, so to speak.

bluegreygreen · Today 20:37

There was previously a suggestion that they would be going to Portugal for half-term, so perhaps they will be spending some time with Eugenie's family.

Dontevenlookatme · Today 20:39

andyburnhamhere · Today 20:34

That’s a fair cop - it always ends like this there is a ganging up - a few home truths said and I slink away with your derision ringing in my ears saying to myself I must do better.And then silence and I go back to lurking and performative anger at shouting at the screen. 😏

I don’t think you helped yourself by referring to “haters”. A little respect for fellow posters goes a long way.

ETA cross posted with @theovertgardener

nicegreenwillow · Today 20:41

andyburnhamhere · Today 20:34

That’s a fair cop - it always ends like this there is a ganging up - a few home truths said and I slink away with your derision ringing in my ears saying to myself I must do better.And then silence and I go back to lurking and performative anger at shouting at the screen. 😏

There is no "ganging up". You are mistaking a set of common shared beliefs as being part of a gang. We vary a lot on here; some of us are left wing and aren't really monarchists, but see H&M as typifying the worst of it; just wanting the status and privilege, not the loyalty to the institution or nation, and their shocking and craven betrayal of Harry's family in the worst way. I disagree with some people on here who are obviously quite royalist, not feminist, not egalitarian, but that is their right and their choice. I can still agree with them on the Sussexes.
So stay, join in, disagree, whatever. Just remember we're all different women and that's ok..

smilesy · Today 20:42

Starryfifty · Today 20:37

If she knew her father was a paodophile in 2019 and apparently she wrote to him in hospital confirming she knew, why is she upset now ?

Cynically, it will be one tear, left eye 😎

AlwaysRightISwear · Today 20:47

Starryfifty · Today 20:34

Where is Archie?????

Possibly in this case her focus may be on her DD because the victims are female rather than male.

BigWillyLittleTodger · Today 20:49

AlwaysRightISwear · Today 20:47

Possibly in this case her focus may be on her DD because the victims are female rather than male.

But we don’t know that.

BigWillyLittleTodger · Today 20:50

Why is she upset now? She’s known for 8 years.

Warmhandscoldheart · Today 20:51

“She had a father, now she doesn’t have a father. I shouldered that because if Meg was not with me, then her dad would still be her dad.” I shouldered that because if Meg was not with me, then her dad would still be her dad.”

This is just nonsensical gibberish to me.
She still does have a father.
She still does have a dad.

Estranged and potentially facing criminal charges but still alive.

I do realise PH said this for sympathy but it's deceitful statement.

MeghanAndTheSeals · Today 20:52

andyburnhamhere · Today 20:16

It popped up in my X feed, so in the interests of all sides-ism, I thought I’d watch it. Apparently, this woman raised $56,000 for Thomas Markle and spent years shielding him within the anti-Meghan universe.

Haters need to understand that, on the fringes of this particular ecosystem, there are some deeply disturbed individuals who spend an extraordinary amount of time online churning out and amplifying this stuff. The Reddit community r/SaintMeghanMarkle has 128,000 members whose apparent raison d’être is to obsess over and promote hatred of Meghan.

I’m not suggesting that everyone who criticises Meghan, certainly here is anything like that, or that all critics should be tarred with the same brush. But perhaps it’s worth pausing to consider the company you’re keeping. When you’re swimming in murky waters, you may find yourself sharing them with some truly appalling bedfellows.

With respect, please stop trying to “shame” in the manner that you do. I wouldn’t touch Reddit with a barge pole, have occasionally looked at Tattle and then backed away very slowly.

I am not a regular poster here, though have been a bit more since they decided to come back to the unsafe UK. But I have dipped in and out to read before that. For the most part, these threads are ALL about what HaM say and do. Conspiracy theory stuff tends to be shut down pretty fast. If there’s anything that you feel breaks Talk Guidelines, then have at it as often as you can with the report button.

You have a rather patronising and condescending way of trying to get at people who post their views. If you disagree with views then, please, do make robust and reasonable arguments against them. Your not very subtle way of trying to shame, covered with a veneer of (in your eyes) oh so hilarious witticisms is, quite frankly, getting a bit tedious.

I am NOT trying to shut you down, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But your style of posting is making me not want to even read your posts because, personally, I don’t feel like there’s going to be anything worthwhile engaging with in relation to hearing a point of view that will give me pause for thought re my current view on HaM.

HoldMyWine · Today 20:54

BigWillyLittleTodger · Today 20:50

Why is she upset now? She’s known for 8 years.

Exactly.

Starryfifty · Today 20:56

I always wonder who these close friends are. They always seem quite rudderless/ isolated

TheOvertGardener · Today 20:56

AlwaysRightISwear · Today 20:47

Possibly in this case her focus may be on her DD because the victims are female rather than male.

Probably but if this really came from a friend it is crass and attention seeking.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Today 20:57

I’m not suggesting that everyone who criticises Meghan, certainly here is anything like that, or that all critics should be tarred with the same brush. But perhaps it’s worth pausing to consider the company you’re keeping.

Ah, the guilt by association ploy. But then, given that this is the internet, we've no idea who YOU are, have we? for all we know you could be one of this 'truly appalling bedfellows' and this is a bluff.

But thanks for the lecture

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 20:57

HoldMyWine · Today 20:33

Sorry forgot to add.
Lili of course gets a mention. Archie doesn’t. As Ever

Sounds like they've gone on holiday for half term, like so many do, and Hello is trying to turn this into them fleeing Britain.

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