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Ham pr disasters 57! ….continuing the confusion and controversy….

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 19:46

Once more into the breach dear friends!!

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Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 20:44

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:33

Why? The Sussexes are doing a good job of making the rest of the RF look good!

While also disrupting and overshadowing RF initiatives - opening of the Sennedd, Aberfan, Graham Norton show in the last week - and raising questions about how they got to this situation in the first place.

Now we have the SS suggesting all,over SM that the RF prevented their princess from reporting CAS.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 20:45

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · Yesterday 20:42

Every day so far something new has been revealed that makes what should be a bloody awful but straightforward situation more confusing.

I did have to raise an eyebrow at Chris Ship on the news yesterday frantically saying it doesn't matter about MM getting the years wrong and absolutely shouldn't be something to focus on.

I definitely think Chris Shit is on the same drugs as H. He, like the rest of us, have no idea what further turds are going to be dropped

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:45

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 20:44

While also disrupting and overshadowing RF initiatives - opening of the Sennedd, Aberfan, Graham Norton show in the last week - and raising questions about how they got to this situation in the first place.

Now we have the SS suggesting all,over SM that the RF prevented their princess from reporting CAS.

I think you'd have to be off your trolley to suggest that!

DontLiveByTheClouds · Yesterday 20:46

Would they really get away with announcing a different DOB for Archie? Doesn't the media usually get a copy of the birth certificate?

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:46

Lunde · Yesterday 20:43

July 2026 - TMJ reports finding images

July 10 2026 - HAM attend hastily arranged tea with KC and QC. It lasts only 47 minutes some of which H meets with his father and Camilla alone.

August 19 - HAM announce intention to move back to Britain for unknown reasons.

August 26 - HAM return and launch massive campaign to get security reinstated and demands to be accepted as working royals.

coincidence?

Thank you! Interesting 🤔

AutumnCrowning · Yesterday 20:46

Starryfifty · Yesterday 20:36

Bizarrely they are achieving the opposite of what they intended. I know a lot of people who are extreme republican (abolish the monarchy etc) are now 100 💯 team KC and PW

Yes. I’m very pro-Stability.

Right now if we did get a vote for president I’d probably look at William as a continuity candidate very favourably.

WilIiamsExtraSausage · Yesterday 20:46

Starryfifty · Yesterday 20:38

Well, I'd say that's the end of that debate 😂

Are any of us going to attend?

TheOvertGardener · Yesterday 20:46

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:45

I think you'd have to be off your trolley to suggest that!

Well

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 20:46

Now we have the SS suggesting all,over SM that the RF prevented their princess from reporting CAS.

SS seem to attribute remarkably little agency to their heroine in her own life, don't they? the poor woman seems to be at the mercy of all these people who wish her ill, with no power to direct her own life.

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:48

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · Yesterday 20:46

Now we have the SS suggesting all,over SM that the RF prevented their princess from reporting CAS.

SS seem to attribute remarkably little agency to their heroine in her own life, don't they? the poor woman seems to be at the mercy of all these people who wish her ill, with no power to direct her own life.

It's quite tragic. Imagine being 45 and having no agency over your own life!

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 20:48

TheOvertGardener · Yesterday 20:34

Although I did recently hear the theory that Archie was born earlier than announced.

I thought that was daft. Now I’m thinking there is more we don’t know than one could ever guess here.

H, in the birth-announcement interview outside the mews, said something along the linels of " it's amazing how much they change in two weeks".

And there is that video of the baby with QE2 where H is digging his thumb into the baby's arm as though it was a doll.

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 20:49

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 20:44

While also disrupting and overshadowing RF initiatives - opening of the Sennedd, Aberfan, Graham Norton show in the last week - and raising questions about how they got to this situation in the first place.

Now we have the SS suggesting all,over SM that the RF prevented their princess from reporting CAS.

Yes!

When I heard the Dreadful Duo were back my heart sank - I thought “Oh no, here we go again- tedious media coverage of HaM all day, every day”.

In my most pessimistic moments I never could have imagined the level of drama and irritation that has actually ensued.

Please, make it stop, and send them back to the US.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · Yesterday 20:49

Starryfifty · Yesterday 20:45

I definitely think Chris Shit is on the same drugs as H. He, like the rest of us, have no idea what further turds are going to be dropped

I haven't watched the ITV news for eons (as I much prefer lovely Clive Myrie) and I know he is a Ham confidant, but even so I was a little surprised at how openly non impartial he was.

BasiliskStare · Yesterday 20:51

@Starryfifty Would you proof read for me before I write it on bonded papaer and send to BP.

Sir ,

May I respectfully suggest you stay the fuck away from the IG and enjoy a lovely birthday celebration for Camilla, with her, and whichever of your family you choose who have not bad mouthed you to the far side of fuck and then fucking back.

Yours faithfully Basilisk.

Too many fucks ? 😊

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:51

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · Yesterday 20:49

I haven't watched the ITV news for eons (as I much prefer lovely Clive Myrie) and I know he is a Ham confidant, but even so I was a little surprised at how openly non impartial he was.

I saw him on the risible Good Morning Britain. He may as well have said "I am the Sussex spokesman". He didn't even manage to convince Ranvir Singh. She's a nice enough woman, but Paxman she ain't.

JoanChitty · Yesterday 20:52

I said this on the last thread but I do think that something else is going to drop. There have been numerous rumours about Meghan’s alleged shenanigans before she married Harry. Regarding Archie, there was some discussion about why there were no doctors signatures on his birth announcement .

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:52

BasiliskStare · Yesterday 20:51

@Starryfifty Would you proof read for me before I write it on bonded papaer and send to BP.

Sir ,

May I respectfully suggest you stay the fuck away from the IG and enjoy a lovely birthday celebration for Camilla, with her, and whichever of your family you choose who have not bad mouthed you to the far side of fuck and then fucking back.

Yours faithfully Basilisk.

Too many fucks ? 😊

Not as many as C&C are using, probably as we speak.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · Yesterday 20:53

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:51

I saw him on the risible Good Morning Britain. He may as well have said "I am the Sussex spokesman". He didn't even manage to convince Ranvir Singh. She's a nice enough woman, but Paxman she ain't.

Wonder what's in this for him.
Maybe he just really likes jam!

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:54

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · Yesterday 20:53

Wonder what's in this for him.
Maybe he just really likes jam!

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Ship; "there's evidence in this assessment that the Sussexes need more security"
Ranvir; "isn't that assessment from their personal paid for private security?"

CoffeeCantata · Yesterday 20:55

jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 19:46

Once more into the breach dear friends!!

You deserve a medal, Jeff…or at least a mention in the Guinness Book of Records!

pipinghot · Yesterday 20:55

People from the past (pre grift of a lifetime success into the BRF) have been remarkably quiet. Remarkably.

CantBeArsedToThinkOfAName · Yesterday 20:56

Also think the 'coincidence' of the Sussex's haste in coming back to the UK in August should not be underplayed.

Obviously can't know their financial situation but logically living a billionaire lifestyle without a billionaire's income does not add up.

I can't imagine Meghan, especially, wanting to come back to the UK after all the drama (which ultimately backfired) and bad press, unless they were completely fucked in the US and desperate. Coming back to the UK could be successful if they 'rehabilitated' their image and were welcomed back into the family fold.

Anyway, the timeline before the Snr's CSA story broke is as follows:

  • The Packing-Up Period (May 2026): After Thomas Sr. was flown back to the United States for his leg rehabilitation on May 1, 2026, Thomas Jr. stayed behind temporarily in Cebu to clear out and pack up his father's rented property. It was during this packing process that he claims he initially stumbled upon the boxes.
  • The Return to the US & The July Reports: Once the house was cleared, Thomas Jr. left the Philippines (apparently apparently mid May) and returned home to the US. He was back on American soil when he filed his initial digital tips to the FBI, the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC), and the Pennsylvania State Police on July 10, 2026.
  • The October Return for the "Sting": Because the alleged offences took place on foreign soil, US domestic police didn't take immediate physical action. To force the issue, Thomas Jr. traveled back to the Philippines in October 2026. He retrieved the boxes from where they were being held, went to the Cebu City police headquarters on Thursday, October 22, to file a formal sworn statement, and brought The Sun along to film the entire setup.

When Jnr flew back to the United States in mid-May, he returned to his home base in Oregon. It was from there that he logged the initial digital tip-offs with the Pennsylvania State Police and the US federal authorities on July 10, before later flying back out to Cebu to execute the public handover with the media in October.

Just out of interest and not particularly relevant:
The distance between Oregon and Montecito, California is relatively short—spanning roughly 600 to 800 miles, depending on the exact starting point in Oregon.

Because the US West Coast stretches vertically, traveling between the two locations is a very straightforward, short-haul trip:

  • Driving distance: Driving from Thomas Jr.’s home base of Grants Pass in southern Oregon down to Montecito takes about 11 to 12 hours of continuous driving.

While Thomas Jr. was in the Pacific Northwest and Meghan was in Southern California, they were in the exact same Pacific Time zone. This stands in stark contrast to their sister Samantha and their father Thomas Sr., who were completely across the country in Florida—creating a massive 3,000-mile geographical divide across the United States.

Jnr apparently did not contact or see Snr on his return to the US after finding all this CSA abuse material before he left the Philippines.

In his official filing to the Cebu City Police, Thomas Jr. stated under oath that the four storage boxes were located inside his father's residential high-rise flat.

Thomas Sr. claimed he never actually saw the computers in the flat. He stated that when he moved from Mexico to the Philippines, his son told him the computers were being kept boxed up down in the basement of the apartment block.

Thomas Jr. did not leave the material at the flat for the police to find; he physically carried the boxes into the Cebu City Police station himself, He didn't just walk into the police station alone; he brought The Sun's veteran reporter, Nick Parker, with him to film and photograph the entire drop-off.

I find all the above extremely interesting.

MrsLeonFarrell · Yesterday 20:56

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 20:44

While also disrupting and overshadowing RF initiatives - opening of the Sennedd, Aberfan, Graham Norton show in the last week - and raising questions about how they got to this situation in the first place.

Now we have the SS suggesting all,over SM that the RF prevented their princess from reporting CAS.

It over shadowed the Senned but I think Aberfan and Graham Norton were well covered.

Starryfifty · Yesterday 20:56

nicegreenwillow · Yesterday 20:54

😂😂😂
Ship; "there's evidence in this assessment that the Sussexes need more security"
Ranvir; "isn't that assessment from their personal paid for private security?"

I bet a week salary , H is going to start banging on about RAVEC security before end of this week

Puzzledandpissedoff · Yesterday 20:57

Now we have the SS suggesting all,over SM that the RF prevented their princess from reporting CAS

Bound to, @Rhaidimiddim;in 2018/19 H&M were still among the RF, so to some mentalities it follows that it must be their fault Hmm